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By Chuck GoudieChicago has one of the toughest gun laws in the nation. But our investigation has found handguns readily available at close range, just beyond the city limits, in the suburbs.
The I-Team has been on the trail of illegal guns for several months. We have spent days staking out several suburban gun stores, then following customers back to their homes in the city. City residents are making easy, perfectly legal retail gun purchases in the suburbs that become illegal once they cross the city line.
Delores Bryan is a widow who lives in Chicago. With a handshake from a clerk at Chuck's Gun Shop in Riverdale, she's a gun owner, too.
"They didn't tell you at the time that it is illegal to have a handgun in your house?" ABC7 investigative reporter Chuck Goudie asked.
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"They didn't discuss that with me," Bryan said.
It has been illegal to register a new pistol or revolver in Chicago for 25 years. But that city ordinance hasn't stopped Chicagoans from buying handguns in the suburbs and keeping them in their homes. Some of them end up being used to commit stickups and murders.
"About 70 percent of the guns that are recovered in crimes in Chicago and the suburban areas come originally within the State of Illinois," said Andrew Traver, ATF special agent in charge.
Thirty-seven Chicago public school children have been killed by guns since the beginning of the last school year. Chicago policeman Michael Ceriale was murdered in 1998 by a gang shooter with a gun that originally came from a suburban store. As each victim falls, families, activists and survivors take aim at suburban gun shops.
The I-Team watched three suburban gun shops located within a mile of Chicago's border to see how easy it could be to get a gun into the city. Storeowners know whether buyers are from Chicago because all state firearm owners registration cards require addresses.
We saw Chicago residents visiting suburban gun stores and returning to the city with gun cases, paper bags and boxes. Some wouldn't talk about what they bought or where they would be taking it.
One gun store shopper arrived in a school bus owned by a company that serves the Chicago Public Schools. A few admitted they kept guns or ammo in Chicago.
Twenty-six-year-old Chicagoan Jason Cunningham owns a 9mm handgun.
"You know it's illegal in Chicago to own a gun?" Goudie asked Cunningham.
"Okay. But I also previously used to be a security officer also," he replied.
"But you know it is illegal to own a gun in the city of Chicago?" Goudie tried again.
"Umm, yeah, sure I know that," Cunningham admitted.
Cunningham's mother said her son was never a security guard. And his grandmother said he bought the gun for just one reason.
"But he's never used it. He bought a gun because he lives in the ghetto," she said.
Bryan said she bought her gun for self defense.
"I had a gun, but somebody broke in and took it," she said. Her previous gun was a 32, she said.
The owner of Illinois Gun Works in Elmwood Park, a half block from the Chicago border, says he cannot and does not sell handguns to Chicagoans because Elmwood Park has an ordinance prohibiting it.
"Basically, all we can do is turn them away," said the store's Don Mastrianni. "They get upset because it's more a question of their rights being violated."
"There are some that make an effort to try to at least inform the people purchasing weapons that they are not supposed to bring them into the city," said Cmdr Nick Roti, Chicago police gang intelligence.
There are many other suburban stores that will sell to Chicagoans. In the past five years, police have recovered 6,000 guns in Chicago purchased by Chicagoans from suburban stores.
"I don't think you can deny that proximity is a big reason why there is that relationship," said Tom Mannard, executive director of the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence.
According to federal reports, one south suburban store led the nation in the number of guns that ended up being used in crimes: more than 2,300 in a four-year period.
"Every other bad guy wants a Glock .40 or a Glock .9," said Michael Casali, ATF special agent.
Guns seized by more than 100 police departments across the state are traced at the ATF center in Chicago. The traced guns are then charted to help local police detect concentrated areas of illegal guns. Cook County Commissioner Larry Sufferdin is pushing an ordinance that would restrict the location of suburban Cook County gun stores from being within a mile of schools and parks. Sufferdin said most gun shops would be closed down by early next year if the ordinance passes.
"When you see the number of the children and others who are being shot on the streets and you realize where these guns are coming from, we have to take a stand," he said.
The owners of Chuck's Gun Shop in Riverdale and Shore Galleries in Lincolnwood both declined to be interviewed for this story. But both men maintain they follow all state and local gun laws.

(Copyright ©2007 WLS-TV/DT. All Rights Reserved.)

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I tried to leave a comment

after I wrote it, then they wanted me to register.
The heck with that.

Blatant racism and stalking, I can't wait to see that racist law get struck down.

Now all the people they exposed are targets.

I am willing to bet the news caster has guns!
 

Sounds tiny. ;)



Seriously, now they're harassing old widows who only want to defend themselves. These people would send their own grandmothers up the river if they thought they could get a story out of it.
 


Actually, it sounds HUGE. think what a .40 is. Now think what a .9 would be....


Also,

Suppose you are a slimeball. Now suppose you are a reporter, but I repeat myself...
 
I left the Chicago suburbs in 2000 and can't believe people still watch Chuck Goudie. I wonder why he hasn't caught any of these honest citizens that bought the guns committing a crime? :rolleyes:
 
The only conclusion that an intelligent person can take away from this story is that Chicago's gun laws do not work and Chicago cannot make them work.
 
CountGlockula said;
Chicago is a great city: deep dish pizza, Sears Tower, Soldier Field, etc., but man, gun laws stink. I feel a little better where I'm at.

I understand there are great things in Havana, Cuba too, but that doesn't change the fact it's nothing more then a third world cesspool where the glamor and glitz of the tourist areas is merely lipstick on the pig that socialist Cuba really is.

Chicago is a third world cesspool as much as Havana, Ho Chi Ming City, Hanoi, Johannesburg, or any other big city in a third world socialist workers paradise is. They all have their good areas that they trot out in front of the cameras. But underneath they are nothing more then human cesspools where corrupt politicians keep the masses in line with buy off programs and heavy handed policing.

If the radical Islamics just have to nuke an American city I nominate Chicago. It's probably the one big American city that it's loss would have no impact on our way of life except to improve freedom in the rest of Illinois and relieve the massive drain of tax money from the rest of the country that pays for the Daley machine to keep buying it's time in office from the voters there.

There is nothing in Chicago that couldn't be done better somewhere else. There is nothing to lose there and no reason to go there. Chicago lost it's status as America's Second City decades ago. We would all be better off if it didn't exist.

There is no problem in Illinois that the elimination of Chicago wouldn't correct.

The gap between Chicago and the rest of the state is a good example of the coming political meltdown between urban and rural interests in this country.

Jeff
 
WOW! Jeff, Please tell us how you really feel! :what:

I would agree with your nuke statement as long as we warned all the innocent people to get out first. The polititians and criminals (I'm being redundant, aren't I.) will be left in the dark.
 
If the radical Islamics just have to nuke an American city I nominate Chicago.

What's the blast radius on a low grade nuke? We folks up here in Lake County are a bit more red than the blue cesspool straight down I-94.

That's why my bug out plan is either north (but I'll be fighting the masses) or west (out to Rockford then down to where I grew up south of Champaign.)

Edit: Ah, never mind, here we go

http://www.fas.org/main/content.jsp?formAction=297&contentId=367
 
If I lived in the area I would suggest to the local gun shops that they pool their resources and hire a lawyer. He could get a restraining order ( or at least try to ) against the tabloid journalists for harassing their customers.
 
Hot dog! ABC has the I-Team staking out places and following people to their homes to interrogate them.

Are there any teams shadowing the I-Team members and following them to their homes and questioning them?

Those team members could consider themselves Internet reporters, members of the electronic press, if they posted their results.

This is great stuff. Everybody should be staking out places and following people to their homes. I've heard about other people who stake out places, usually banks and ATM machines, and follow people to their homes. It never occurred to me that they might be journalists.
 
Chicago is a great city: deep dish pizza, Sears Tower, Soldier Field, etc., but man, gun laws stink. I feel a little better where I'm at.
1. The restaurants are now a moot point. That was the only thing I looked forward to on my annual visits to Apartheid Chicago until recently. Virtually ALL sidestreets on the North Side are now "Permit Only" parking, and the South Side is catching up fast. I have NO desire to pay more for parking than an expensive dinner. Nor do I have the slightest desire to ride the CTA without a gun.

2. The architecture is wonderful. Too bad it's infested with some of the most bigoted, hate filled people I've ever met ON EARTH. Whites hate Blacks, Blacks hate Jews, Mexicans hate Puerto Ricans, etc., etc., etc.

3. I can no more respect people who would actually vote for Richard M. Daley than I can respect people who would FREELY vote for Kim Jong Il. And the comparison is apt. They're both the village idiot sons of corrupt tyrants.

Chicago? No thanks. I'd rather go some place like Teheran, where at least the people WISH they were free...
 
iamkris,

Depends on the yield, altitude and surrounding terrain when detonated.

Chicago kills me. I always liked that city as a kid (I lived in Ontario and my parents would visit the windy city from time to time) but now, I don't think I'll ever go there again. There just seems to be too much deception and corruption there. I mean, where does this reporter get off preaching to these people who live in rough parts of town when he probably lives in an upper class district/gated community with armed security where Chicago Police have a two minute response time? They speak of equality, but they seem to have this drive to be more equal.
 
In the past five years, police have recovered 6,000 guns in Chicago purchased by Chicagoans from suburban stores.

This is the part that bothers me. Were these "recovered" guns used in a crime? Was the crime committed by the original gun purchaser. If not, then how did the criminal obtain the weapon? If 6,000 guns were stolen over a 5 year period in the area, then it would see like the source of the problem is excessive theft and not the gun sales. I'm assuming that these guns were originally sold to law-abiding citizens.
 
Personally, I enjoy visiting Chicago...

Of course I only spend daylight hours there and then I bug out on my way home to visit my parents downstate.

Live there? NEVER.
 
Marshall Dodge wrote:

I left the Chicago suburbs in 2000 and can't believe people still watch Chuck Goudie. I wonder why he hasn't caught any of these honest citizens that bought the guns committing a crime?


In his mind he has caught them committing a crime. They are buying guns and taking them into Chicago which bans guns. That is a crime. It's not what most of us would consider a criminal act, but then again, we're talking about Chicago and it's mindset. It's not the same as most of the US, and especially the more rural areas, towns, cities, and states. We all know that Chicago is a utopian city where the government of the city protects all of its citizens and makes sure, through very strict gun laws, that criminals have a hard time getting guns to commit crimes. Why, it has to be one of the safest cities in the US, if not the world. What, that's a bunch of hooey? Wow. I sure was fooled just by the existence of their tough gun laws.
 
Jeff:

I thought I was the only one that had that opinion of Chicago. I sure wish that Illinois would build a new interstate a few miles south of No. 80/94 so that I could go east or west without having to use the present Chicago highways. One could get killed doing that. A link to 57 would be useful too.

If ya' can't get rid of the place it should be isolated... :fire:
 
Fuff, Take I40 to I44 to I70 and across. When you get to the I70/I57 interchange give me a call. You'll be 30 miles from where I live and I'll buy the coffee.

Jeff
 
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