Childish friends are really annoying me.

[1911Tuner]

Notify them that touching someone without their consent is a de-facto assault...and that continuing to lay hands on after being repeatedly asked to refrain from doing so is harassment and intimidation in the eyes of the court...besides which it's just plain bad form. Then go find new friends...mature friends who respect other people.

 

[hso]

Have you asked them in a very serious tone "What are you doing?"? The'll probably respond with a flippant, "Just fooling around", to which you respond, "No, really, what do you think you're doing "fooling around" with a gun. Are you simple or something?". Right in front of all their friends.

 

[Old Shooter]

If it were me id twist their wrist and made sure it hurt. So they could see the seriousness of the matter and my intentions.
If they don't like that then the finding new friends part will already be half way done.

Have you asked them in a very serious tone "What are you doing?"? The'll probably respond with a flippant, "Just fooling around", to which you respond, "No, really, what do you think you're doing "fooling around" with a gun. Are you simple or something?". Right in front of all their friends.

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It seems like one of these two approaches should work. Either they take the hint or I'm outta here. One of these days somebody is going to get their finger on the trigger during this horseplay and THEN what do you suppose is gong to happen?

"Well Officer, that guy over there is always coming around here with that gun....."
And it will go downhill from there.

 

[BADUNAME37]

These people sound like the kind of "friends" I once had when I was into "partying."

A number of years later, when I looked back on our "friendship" - the folks that I once considered to be 'my friends' weren't, in reality, friends at all - but instead were simply people I could party with. I never had a motorcycle, but I suppose, if I had, then the only difference in this 'equation' would have been that we also "rode together."

I think you are seeing immature people doing immature things. To me, you sound like you are much more mature than any of these people who seem as though they have nothing better to do than see how much they can get you riled up.

I would not hang out with them.
I would be polite, but I would give them the cold shoulder.
I would not go anywhere they invite me to go and I would start hanging out with people who have a sincere respect for both shooting sports and for me (and my safety).

In time, either you will never see them again, or they will ask you what happened.
That is the time when you can be honest and tell them how serious you take guns and shooting sports.

If they don't get it, then they have a LOT more growing up to do (in which case you will know for certain that you made the RIGHT DECISION when you did)!

 

[ironcode]

Dude, these are not your friends. These are some acquaintances whom you rarely see to ride motorcycles with. Do you really want to associate with irresponsible people like that?

 

[Drail]

Ask them how they would react if you grabbed their crotch. Tell them you were just "fooling around". They are immature kids. I have personally seen people seriously injured while playing "grab ass". A kid in my high school shop class was killed because of this kind of stupidity. I had to quit a good job because of this crap. Don't put up with people like this.

 

[BADUNAME37]

I read of a guy who would go around with an air compressor hose and, just fooling around, go up to his co-workers with the air compressor hose and shoot air into their crotch.

Well, he did it one time and happened to perforate the guy's large intestine to the point where the guy needed a cholostomy bag from then on.

I read of a completely other situation where a guy was playing with firecrackers (M80's). He had just lit one when the lifeguard at the pool walked around the corner. This guy quickly threw the lit M80 into his pant pcket and jumped into the water. As soon as the M80 went off, it created a hole so large in the guy's hip/upper thigh that he bled to death then and there. Who would have thought that water pressure would cause this thing to blow INWARDLY? Some people have to learn the hard way.

These are the kind of people I STAY AWAY FROM!

Who knows, you might see them on the front page of the newspaper some day -- then you can be glad that you weren't PART OF IT!

 

[Victor1Echo]

What was that line about touching my iroy handled Colt is like touching my woman.

 

[KZinOKC]

OP,

About the guy trying to touch your gun; why not call him and invite him to go shooting at the range? Obviously he has an interest in guns. Teach him to shoot and maybe he turns into a real friend and understands all that goes along with that. Since most of those "friends" sound pretty immature, I'd go at this one friend at a time. Invite the chick too, maybe she'll turn out to be "the one".

 

[BADUNAME37]

OP,

About the guy trying to touch your gun; why not call him and invite him to go shooting at the range? Obviously he has an interest in guns. Teach him to shoot and maybe he turns into a real friend and understands all that goes along with that. Since most of those "friends" sound pretty immature, I'd go at this one friend at a time. Invite the chick too, maybe she'll turn out to be "the one".

Excellent advice!

Only go with ONE, though, as two will double-team you!

One-on-one and you will have his undivided attention (if he likes it at all)!

 

[jonmerritt]

You suffer the consequences of your choices and actions, or lack thereof.

 

[danez71]

Have you asked them in a very serious tone "What are you doing?"? The'll probably respond with a flippant, "Just fooling around", to which you respond, "No, really, what do you think you're doing "fooling around" with a gun. Are you simple or something?". Right in front of all their friends.

When dealing with 'friends' , something like this works well too often. Maybe throw in a "Are you 12? Do you want to play Duck Duck Goose or something?? Hopscotch? Tether ball?

(OP said) ......When I grabbed her hand away from my gun, she said "it's ok, I have a concealed carry license".

Whats he story?
Is she kidding or serious?
Is she cute? Uh uh uh.... I mean, is she someone you can talk to about it in a serious way?

 

[Walkalong]

Get new friends or get better at dealing with immature friends. Help em grow up.

 

[Sam1911]

Also, if I made it clear that I am not hanging around them because a couple of them can't keep their hands off of me, I think the general attitude would basically be "so what?". I don't spend enough time with them to really be "one of the group".

If you friends don't care if you are comfortable, safe, and happy -- and don't even care if you show up, they aren't friends.

If you aren't "one of the group," then you're "that" guy who's an occasional hanger-on. That's pretty sad.

Ditch the lounge-about bike/beach crowd and get a real life. Less time loitering with immature kids, more time shooting. When you get some REAL friends, you'll laugh at yourself for having wasted time on the beach bums.

 

[armoredman]

Find new friends at the range. Stay away from dangerous people pretending to be your friend. You say you aren't really part of the "group", good, then they won't bother you when you stop hanging out with them. Start going more to the ranges around you and find some like minded people, and hopefully not the guys who shoot holes in the cieling and target carriers...

 

[pbearperry]

These friends are going to get you in a whole lot of trouble,unless you leave the gun home while travelling with them.

 

[buck460XVR]

As I've told my children as they grew up...."you are who your friends are."


If your friends are immature and irresponsible around firearms, maybe you need to re-evaluate your actions and demeanor when carrying..........or you need to find new friends.


Besides, if your friends are immature and irresponsible around guns, they probably are a danger to ride beside.

 

[CTGunner]

It's hard but you need to realize that these people don't give a rats behind about you. They are obviously not your 'friends'. It sounds to me like they keep you around for their personal amusement and nothing more. You are the ass end of their jokes when you are with them and I suspect when you are not with them the things they say are even worse. Why do that to yourself?

 

[W.E.G.]

Birds of a feather flock together.

The people touching your gun for kicks are really stupid people.

You can figure the rest of it out.

 

[Scrapperz]

They will cause a problem eventually if they keep up that behavior. I lost alot of so-called friends when I separated from them, lol. Many of these so-called friends are not alive today due to the fact their demeanor simply never changed and by doing things in such a way which they are a harm to themselves and those that choose to be around them.

 

[Old Fuff]

You have a right to choose your own friends (or others you just hang with) but If I were you I wouldn't carry while with this particular group, and when I was I wouldn't associate with them.

As an alternative: you mentioned a retaining holster, but is it one with a simple safety strap, or a true law enforcement retention model? I would get the latter if you haven't already, because it would prevent a snatch & grab.

Not grabbing, just touching? Consider a Bianchi model 92 full-flap holster that wouldn't leave much to touch, and would provide considerable security.

But when it comes to the bottom line, you need to decide just how important this particular group is to you. No one else can do that for you.

 

[nitetrane98]

You ride a crotch rocket, dont'cha. Not that there is anything wrong with that, I just tend to notice a somewhat higher level of immaturity among some of those riders. Spend more time riding and less time posing with the kids.

 

[Lonestar49]

...

~ Out of sight - Out of mind ~

What the children can't see, they won't touch

New crowd or new carry

Then you can strike a pose, (as mentioned), if you like


Ls

 

[ShooterMcGavin]

A lot of you have hit the nail on the head. I don't think it's a matter of spending time with people who aren't my friends.... they are acquaintances specifically because I don't spend enough time with them to create real friendships.

These are not the typical always-in-trouble guys. They are pretty responsible riders and they stay out of trouble. 90% (or more) respect my carrying and don't mess with anything. However, a couple of them have some serious issues making wise decisions.

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

Why don't you go to them individually, or as a group, and let them know that there is a serious responsibility when carrying a gun, and that you would appreciate them not tampering with you when armed, etc, and the legal and professional ramifications. If they continue to laugh it off, then you'll have to part company.