Childish friends are really annoying me.

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I handle this by telling them: Please don't play around by grabbing me, slapping at me, or 'fake' wrestling with me. I don't like it because you'll grab & scare me, one of us will get hurt, and we probably won't be friends any more. I want to stay friends with you.

Regrettably, some people only learn this by coming up behind me & grabbing me or jumping out & startling me and getting flattened out on the ground.

I learned this the hard way from one of my friends at a backyard pool party. We were playing 'sneak up from behind and throw into pool'. He was a police officer (older chief type guy). I successfully snuck up behind him, grabbed him in a bear hug and promptly received an elbow in my solar plexus, followed his hand around my throat. This hurt. He began apologizing profusely while I recovered and told me "I'm sorry Chris, but I don't know how to swim." Some others knew this and didn't 'play' with him and I was obviously ignorant of this fact.

He felt bad & I felt bad and that's when I decided I don't 'play' fight with anyone unless we've agreed in advance.
 
Turn and leave at the first fondle attempt.
No words need be spoken.
They will figure it out, eventually.
If not by the 2nd time, never meet again.
 
Yup ... exacatly: Sounds to me that you hanging around with the wrong "friends." If they don't get it, and it seems fairly obvious that they don't, it's far better that you steer clear of them, at least when you are OCing. Otherwise, it's you who doesn't get it. In my view, it's best to cut your losses now, before something bad happens.
 
If you keep doing what you're doing, you'll keep getting what you're getting.

So to stop these folks from playing with you, stop associating with them. And remember, you could have gotten on your bike and rode at any time you chose to.
 
I don't care who you are you aren't going to touch my gun. In the situation I'd repond like I thought you really were trying to steal it (IOW I'd fight you). Out the situation I'd stay out and never go back. I also wouldn't ask my "friends" to choose I'd simply state that I won't be around when Guy X or Girl Y is. Although I expect the first time he/she reached for my gun and I beat their ass the situation would be resolved one way or the other.

And for those who say I may go to jail for battery
"I was defending my gun officer I didn't know what his intentions were and I thought it prudent to assume the worst."

PS FWIW I had a "friend" in the Army that thought it was funny to come up behind ne and grab me just to watch me jump the very last time he tried it I dislocated his arm, Some lessons are harder learned than others
 
Thanks for reminding me why I prefer not to hang out with groups of guys.

Even at a church league softball game. I'm good to go with any of those guys one on one, but when you put them all together in cleats, they inevitably seam to turn obnoxious.

Either I've turned into a grump, or do these guys need to grow up.
 
I would change my mode of carry. Thunderwear, pocket carry, or holster shirt, compartment vest are some that spring to mind.
 
Plan A: Have a frank, honest discussion with them. Tell them that their behavior is dangerous, not to mention rude and illegal, and that you will no longer tolerate it. Explain to them that there is a time and place to handle loaded firearms, and standing on a public beach is not it. Maybe invite them to the range sometime, so they can indulge their interest in a safe, legal, and respectful manner. If they don't get the message, go to Plan B: Find new friends.

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I had a female friend who had a way to deal with unwanted attention,
she would cuss a guy out for the first one, then turn around get close and grab his balls and twist and hold until he got the idea. She was pretty good at it, never saw a guy try for a third time. Might want to start practicing something like that, or explain that a cop would shoot him for his behavior, and explain the threat associated with going for your gun, then kick his butt if he tried it again.

Or get new friends.
 
It sucks because 9 out of 10 of them are cool to hang around and they don't make any issue of the gun on my hip. Also, if I made it clear that I am not hanging around them because a couple of them can't keep their hands off of me, I think the general attitude would basically be "so what?". I don't spend enough time with them to really be "one of the group".

Sir it sounds as if you have two bad choices, 1- the next guy who puts his hand on your gun or attempts to do so, fight like it was a total stranger who was trying to disarm you. 2- Find a new group of friends, I understand that this can be difficult, but if the group mind set is unwilling to respect your reasonable requests are not the type you need to hang with.
 
the next guy who puts his hand on your gun or attempts to do so, fight like it was a total stranger who was trying to disarm you.
...get charged with battery, lose 2A rights, don't have to worry about someone trying to disarm you any more.

Find new friends.
 
Get a squirt gun and carry that when you ride up and if he messes with it pull it out and point it at his face and squirt him with it. Watch him crap his pants. Works for cats.

Just make sure it is a squirt gun though.
 
It sounds to me like it's too late to impress upon these people that you're a no-nonsense kind of guy. Maybe in years past you participated in some grab-a$$ stuff with these friends and they know no limits. Dump 'em.
 
If they're friends that you don't want to part with, stop carrying around them for a bit and I bet they'll get bored when they can't feel you up.

If they're friends that you can do without, ditch 'em and find some buddies that are cooler.
 
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get charged with battery, lose 2A rights, don't have to worry about someone trying to disarm you any more.

If someone puts their hands on another person, in most jurisdictions, they have committed the crime of assault, so therefore any reasonable response is self-defense!
 
You might carry a stun gun as a backup. I'll bet the crowd would get a great laugh out of you zapping the first person who attempts to "grab" your gun.............
 
Man up and talk to them or leave your gun at home. You seem more of a danger to yourself/others than anything else
 
Grab their hand when they reach for it, and give it a firm twist, and hold it there. Now you have their attention. Look him/her in the eye, and in a serious tone, tell them, "That's not funny. It's a firearm, not a joke, and it's deadly serious."

If they're still screwing with you, there's something wrong with your body language, telling them not to take you seriously.
 
Hate to beat a dead horse, but people who don't respect your wishes, AREN'T. Get new friends, I did after college and couldn't be happier. Some people never mature; find the ones that have.
 
You sound like a pretty smart guy, I'm sure you will figure it out. I have only read the first page of the postings on this thread, and it is already clear to me that you seem to be an articulate and intelligent man, how does someone of this character find themselves in these situations. Sounds like maybe you haven't set the precedent, and need too, sometimes a poke right in the nose is all it takes. BTW, I wouldn't be worried about looking like a hard ass, although it sounds like the people you hang around are 8yo, and you would therefore be a 'meaniehead'
 
I'd have a hard time voting "guilty" on an assault/battery charge stemming from an attempted gun grab. Some things are just not 'funny'.

It reminds me of the youtube video of the guy dressed up as a scarecrow on his porch at Halloween, sitting motionless then grabbing people as their kids reached for the candy. He got a one-shot KO from a startled dad and had no one to blame but himself.
 
Yeah, I have plenty of lifelong friends who I turned into acquaintences, one guy, who I've known for 10yrs who has in no way gotten his life together even though he has 3 kids and is almost 25 years old, resents me as I'm a few years younger and have a wife and kid, and pulled my act together and no longer want to do the same things I did when we were 15yo, well in all the crap he's pulled over the years he became a felon, and wanted me to sell him one of my pistols, I said no and told him it was because he was a felon....well, he wanted to press the issue, so I then told him that even if he wasn't a felon I wouldn't sell it to him and he asked why so I reminded him that he doesn't have a job and that I would much rather see him put his $ towards his family, or court fines, etc... He got all upset and began to pout...boo hoo for me....he pretty much told me in so many words told me it wasn't fair how I have all this nice stuff and he has nothing, I told him to grow up. Besides, I don't buy guns to sell them, I buy them because I like them and want to keep them, but the fact is, at that point I just severed a 10yr friendship because the people I hang with are a direct reflection on me and I'm a better person than that, and I in no way shape or form wish to be associated with that kind of immaturity.
 
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