Children in an adult gun site?

[Gunfighter123]

Where to start on this topic !!!

Should we have a ENTER HERE page as online porn sites do ?? "Are you over 18 years old --- click YES or click NO and you will be redirected to another site " What a joke -- like that would/does work !!!

SHTF ---- I was VERY YOUNG in the early 1960s , but I still remember asking my parents
" Why don't we have a Bomb Shelter in case the Russians bomb us" --- I was around 5 years old -- not even in 1st Grade !!!

In this Age of Information how are kids NOT TO BE AWARE of civil war{Africa etc.} , Global Warming , Hur. Katrina type natural disasters , street riots if the Chicago Bulls win or lose , U.S. and Overseas Drug Cartels , etc. etc.

I remember being 8 or 9 years old and thinking/planning how I would defend my sleeping parents/home WITH MY BB GUN !!!!



WHAT REALLY GETS ME UPSET is we all say " to save our 2nd Amendment , we NEED to get the younger generation involved" ------ THEN , when a "youngster" does come to this or another "adult gun site" --- THEY ARE TREATED WITH SUCH DISRESPECT that myself and MANY OTHERS have to have a "adult debate" with the people that reply to them.

Myself ---- I feel Blessed when a much younger person asks JUST ABOUT ANYTHING relateing to firearms.

In countless hours on the Net --- I have NEVER read a post like " I hate everyone at my school , how can I get guns like that used at Columbine etc."

Defense is a God given right ---- nothing about being 18 years or older for it.

And PLEASE someone ansewer me this --- we{you and I}can send a 18 year old to Iraq to kill or be killed --- BUT -- they can not be trusted to have a beer untill they are 21 !!!

 

[Impureclient]

^^ what oldfool said above

I also don't seem to remember typing anything about people encouraging illegal activity??? Nobody was encouraging anything illegal as far as I know.
I'm sure anybody reading in here the last couple days can figure out what peaked my interest on this subject. I'm kind of saddened that if a child does
make his/her way on here without a parents knowledge then a few feel that if they made it this far then they better learn to swim with the sharks. I
guess that's why when I see a little kid or even a younger teen crossing a 6 lane busy road my butt puckers up in fear for their life. Maybe I should just
adopt the philosophy of sitting back and let these kids do what ever feels right to them. Of course that isn't going to be what goes down in my household.
I don't want to be all "Daddy like" but just because they can do what they are doing doesn't mean we should allow it. This site is filled with mostly knowledgeable
folks who are only here to learn and give information so I guess it is mostly safe.

Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him. Proverbs 22:15

 

[Younggunner]

Well seeing that fact that thus threadrelates to what I posted the other day, I thought I'd chime in.
Now I know that starting my thread with "shtf" probably sent up red flags all across the site. BUT just because I'm a young kid does not mean I'm stupid or incapable of having feelings. If I had a legitimate question about a good gun to use. People here should have responded like the few that gave a good response and them said that I was in fact being a little drastic with shtf. But unlike those few, most of the posters ended up either not beleiving me for because I'm "too articulate" for my age. Or I was some lying producer. And then the few started going on about my size. Now that's fine if you treat someone likethat and expect to be treated that way, but I thought that stuff ended at the 3rd grade playground. Anyway I think that kids my age should be allowed to be on this website because not all of us are illiterate and "homicidal". The other day my dad told me that as I start highschool, things change and I'm only four years from being able to enlist in the military. So being treated like everyone else would be nice. Especially because I didn't sign up to start trouble, I signed up looking for answers.

 

[Officers'Wife]

My child is so curious that if I forbid her to be on a site such as this, she would sneak on just to see what the fuss was about. At four years old I don't have to worry about the internet too much. As for firearms... my husband and I agreed long ago not to 'protect' her from the knowledge of dangerous tools. The theory is what is forbidden becomes desirable and it's better for us as parents to make the tools boring 'grown up' stuff.

If she were old enough to read the posts here, I would have problem none with her going through the majority. Our moderators are both fair and thorough, doing an outstanding job of making these boards family friendly. That includes the rare instances when persons start having SHTF fantasies. In my mind a site such as this might even be able to teach her one skill I never mastered - the art of getting a point across without stabbing someone with it.

Selena

 

[oldfool]

here is an afterthought folks
(yes, I am old and slow witted)

This forum has a long history, does a better job of segregating subjects according to firearms tastes and preferences than anybody else, and represents them all... I say again l-o-n-g history, take a glimpse at the total post count here

Anybody (age 5 or 105) who wants advice on any rational firearm subject can get it here, merely by lurking here (I did) .... shotgun, rifle, handgun, any/all styles and flavors, sporting or tactical (including the thinly disguised verbotten).

Say it ain't so

but even so... if/when in serious doubt if a poster is someone else's "underage" child, you still get to choose
Post anything you want that you are pretty sure the mods won't take down.. or not

but YOU choose, you really cannot pretend the knowledge sought is not right here for anyone, very easily accessible, even if they fail to get the best-ever-advice instantaneously from... you... me...

we come here because
we like firearms
we want to encourage others to do so also
we respect natural & constitutional rights
and we do love to hear the sound of our own voice

choosing when and how we flatter ourselves might ought to involve something more than repeating something that has already been said many times over already, and readily readable right here, no matter how much fun we have "saying it again"

the "something more" is, of course a matter of personal discretion
(present example not being a particularly good example, acknowledged)

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

I believe THR has great guidlines and is closely moderated. With that in mind, either allow your children to access, or create your own child restraints, should your children require them. There is no other way for the rest of us to be free.

 

[B yond]

There's a real good way to keep your kids off sites you find inappropriate. It's called 'parenting.'

Welcome to the internet.

 

[THE DARK KNIGHT]

I find this statement very funny coming from someone with the screen name THE DARK KNIGHT. Could just be me though.

What does my screen name have anything to do with my comment? THE DARK KNIGHT is batman, I happen to be a comic book fan since I was a kid and was always partial to Batman.

That said, I stand by my opinion that SHTF, Zombie, etc. fantasy threads are a waste of space and make the whole of us look like a bunch of loons and ought to be deleted on sight.

 

[hso]

Lots of children here, regardless of age. Some show remarkable maturity while others act their age and less.

There is a lot information on here and some of it is not G rated.

Please explain.

 

[9mmepiphany]

THE DARK KNIGHT is batman, I happen to be a comic book fan since I was a kid and was always partial to Batman.

That said, I stand by my opinion that SHTF, Zombie, etc. fantasy threads are a waste of space and make the whole of us look like a bunch of loons and ought to be deleted on sight.

i'm pretty sure we knew who the Dark Knight is...i even rememeber when he was really dark...that's what made your statement so funny.

next you'll have us believe that witches and dragons don't exist

 

[Impureclient]

Please explain.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=356667 = SHTF talk, cut short
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=459908 = sleeping with a gun
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=464568 = headshots
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=466882 = shooting robber in back as they leave
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=468474 = title was originally SHTF gun to buy, changed later when the SHTF within the thread

Eni meni myni mo.....Not the kind of stuff that I would think kids talk about. That's just my opinion though.

 

[meytind]

Not the kind of stuff that I would think kids talk about

You'd be surprised.

ETA: Also, as this is a firearm forum, you are likely to find firearm related topics ranging from the best gun for turkey hunting to whether it is practical to train to make head shots rather than COM. You are likely to find posts of firearm related news such as the recent story of the man in NYC who shot the robbers as they were running. I find that these are perfectly normal topics to discuss when talking firearms and they are all on topic. This isn't a forum about gardening or model airplane collecting. It is a forum for firearms related discussion. If you don't want your kids to learn about these things from the net, sit them down and talk to them about it. If you treat your kids like adults during conversation, you will find that they respond in an adult manner.

 

[Mags]

None of your examples prove a point as a matter of fact I think it's great how High Road those threads are. Whats wrong with headshots? I mean really. Whats wrong with questioning the legality of shooting a robber in the back? If it was up to some of you the gubmint would already be in here censoring our posts. Parents need to be parents teach their kids right from wrong regardles of what their kids read on the internet they will do the right thing with good upbringing. Bottom line censorship is the responsibility of parents whether they have the capability or not.

 

[Prince Yamato]

Not the kind of stuff that I would think kids talk about.

Aside from possibly misleading a child into believing that mossy oak is somehow fashionable, what's available on THR is the least of a parent's worries.

 

[NickEllis]

I attend Krav Maga classes (defensive martial arts), and there are many kids that attend (5 and up). They are quickly taught the basics of self defense, and even lethal force: head strikes, neck strikes, groin strikes. What is wrong with teaching kids, in the proper context, of how to defend ones' self? If a kid is here, and interested in reading about self defense, it isn't a G-rated vs. non-G-rated issue. Headshots are an integral part of knowing about shooting in self defense. I don't see how age is an issue.

Besides, in the age of Halo and first person shooter games, this is hardly a novel concept to most kids.

 

[ishida]

As a "child" (Who can purchase or own a car, and drive, which kills an unbelievable number of people every year... And can own guns, and DO)
One year short of "adulthood" (HA!), I completely disagree with the OP.


No offense OP, but you're essentially saying that the "magic age" actually exists and works, and that somehow anyone wanting to participate in a discussion but isn't 18+ is a loon.
And that's extremely disrespectful, amongst a few other choice words that could be used.

Because YOU are essentially stuck up, paranoid, and over-protective, does not mean that other parents don't trust their children, and that "children" don't wish to discuss things in both seriousness and fun. I've been written off repeatedly as "immature" because of ONE YEAR OF LIFE, even though through my actions I was far more mature than the old man.
Seriously, if you don't trust your children, don't give them access to a computer, or your guns.
Don't advocate to remove the responsibility and give it to the mods. It is NOT THEIR JOB, at all. As well, there is no currently moral, ethical, or even POSSIBLE way to prevent anyone under the age of 18 to enter the site. That's completely COUNTER productive to the movement to educate the younger generation.

 

[Larry Ashcraft]

Impureclient, why are you so adamant that we not let "children" peruse our site? Would you rather that the firearm community wither and die because we shun the young people?

I have nine grandchildren, and the older ones (over 5) have been taught the safety rules and how to shoot from grandma and grandpa's porch. My nephew, who is 13, has gone through the same regimen and now accompanies us to the Whittington Center and shoots regularly at our backyard range. My twin grandsons, aged nine, can be trusted by themselves at the range with their 22s.

As far as our new member being "too articulate". At age 12, I could have out-spelled every one of you here. Why is it so hard to understand that some of today's kids might have taken their education seriously? We say "woe is us" because our country's young are being brainwashed, but when we get some evidence that some of them are following in our footsteps, we go out of our way to shout them down and deride them.

Sometimes I feel like I'm paddling upstream. :banghead:

 

[JohnBT]

I'm still not sure what the OP is getting at. This site is about as G rated as it gets.


"My son is 11"

By the time I turned 11 in 1961 I had been listening to my father, and others, tell WWII stories and state police stories for, well, 11 years. Then there were all the farming and hunting stories and such. Not to mention what I'd heard in Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts and Sunday School.

The best advice I ever got as a little kid? "Don't fall in the hog pen, they'll kill you."

Second best was, "Get lots of help when it's time to butcher." Or can vegetables and meat for that matter.

John

 

[essayons21]

Just FYI, you are misunderstanding what a straw purchase entails.

A straw purchase is buying a gun for a prohibited personi.e. felons, etc. If your child, spouse, or friend is legally allowed to possess a gun, you can buy a gun and give it to them as a gift legally.

In my state there are no prohibitions on possessions of long guns because of age, and the legal age to possess a handgun is 18.

 

[Erik M]

I'm still not sure what the OP is getting at. This site is about as G rated as it gets.

I'm in the same boat, Mods keep the off topic stuff locked down tightly. There isnt any nonsense about video games and tacticool garbage on here. No one is promoting a negative enviroment. I cant see how the site could be protrayed in a negative light, unless you are someone with a political motive.

 

[Impureclient]

i'm currently looking into an m1 carbine and that seems like a good gun and since i'm paying out of my own pocket

^^
Does that look familiar?


Pulled directly from first Google on Straw purchase:

A straw purchase is any purchase whereby the purchaser is knowingly acquiring an item or service for someone who is, for whatever reason, unable to purchase the item or service themselves.
One of the questions on form 4473 is “I am the buyer of this firearm” and the purchaser must answer honestly yes or no, by checking the appropriate box in ink.

 

[atomd]

To give you an idea of how strict this site is, I posted something completely silly (just as silly as the originating post in this thread) and it was deleted in 10 mins or less. This is one of the heaviest moderated sites out there. It's full of good info, no foul language, and threads are kept on topic. Anything even remotely suggesting something illegal is dealt with swiftly. I think this site is as G rated as you can get. A young person (and every other age group) can learn a heck of a lot just by reading what's posted on here.

I read a lot of fishing/hunting + other firearm related forums and I see foul language with X rated pictures posted ALL over the place. Don't get me wrong, I like being able to crack a joke and see a bikini pic here and there. If anything, THR can be OVERLY strict in some cases.

 

[LibShooter]

Anybody old enough to hold and fire a Cricket .22 should be able to deal with anything on this site.

I wish I had had a place like this to learn about shooting as a child. My Dad taught me what he knew, which was plenty, but nobody knows as much as everybody.

P.S. About the cut and paste issue. Am I the only one who writes his longer posts in a text editor? I can take advantage of the spell checker then paste the text into the box. Is that a bad idea?

 

[Larry Ashcraft]

Just what has set you off, Impureclient?

What has made you think that a 14 year old can not understand self defense or firearms? My son knew the rules at age 3.

What has made you think that young Younggunner, at 14, cannot understand the rules?

We await answers...

 

[Larry Ashcraft]

To give you an idea of how strict this site is, I posted something completely silly (just as silly as the originating post in this thread) and it was deleted in 10 mins or less. This is one of the heaviest moderated sites out there. It's full of good info, no foul language, and threads are kept on topic. Anything even remotely suggesting something illegal is dealt with swiftly. I think this site is as G rated as you can get. A young person (and every other age group) can learn a heck of a lot just by reading what's posted on here.

Nice to know we're doing our job. Thanks.