Never thought "firearm" and "adult novelty" would be used in the same sentence.

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I'm pretty sure this is the place for this thread, but please forgive me and move if need be, I'm still new here.

I was listening to the radio on my way home from class. The radio personality brought up an issue, in which a local adult novelty store here in Detroit has a strange special going on. You can bring in (and give them) your firearms in exchange for an adult toy. They say this is an effort "to take guns off our streets".

I don't recall them saying anything about rifles or any other long guns, just hand guns. I'm almost certain this is aimed towards illegal firearms, but then again they could be very anti and want everyone's guns, I suppose.

I'm interested in who in their right mind would trade something of that much value for something that costs maybe $50? And what criminal would willingly come out and say they had one just to get something like this for free?

The funniest thing about it is people are having fits over it because of the "adult theme".

I believe the slogan for this deal is is "Love, not War".
 
Wouldn't that be very, very illegal?

They are transfering (recieving, in this case) firearms as part of their buisness, but they don't (I'm assuming) hold a valid FFL. That seems pretty sketchy.
 
Merely a headline grab for more publicity for their store.

I'm even more interested in how they've set up the legal end to be trading firearms for goods. One assumes they are not also an FFL dealer.

All that being said, I cannot imagine how this thread will adhere to the standards of our forum. I'll leave it open for now -- for anyone who wants to discuss the legal and/or social issues -- but remember where you are.
 
Cheap way to increase your collection, or make a nice profit if you ask me. I wish I had thought up this promotion.

Toys that retail for 19.95 can be bought in bulk for less than $5 shipping included.

Say you get 50 guns that can be re-sold for $100 each. Profit = $95 each. Much better margin than $14.95 each!
 
Well, my guess like I said, was probably targeted towards illegal weapons, so I'm sure they have a local PD taking the firearms, and doing whatever they do with them.
 
I much prefer AAC's take on this topic.

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They must have the local/state PD involved - possibly offering the store money for every weapon they obtain. It is a great way for people who need gifts for Valentine's Day and don't have the financial means - but have an illegal gun laying around. Sounds funny but I actually dig the premise.

I think many of you would be shocked at some of the prices among the adult retail industry today.

Justin - I like that, what a great ad.
 
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"adult toy" is kinda vague. Some of that stuff can run into the THOUSANDS of dollars per unit. Might not be a bad trade. Depending on your skill level, interests, and partner of course. :)
 
I like the idea, if it gets illegal guns off the streets, too.
I'm sure they have a price cap. Yes, some of that stuff is very expensive.
 
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Well, my guess like I said, was probably targeted towards illegal weapons...
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That's always the claim, but think it through.

If a BG has a hot gun (as in, used in a capitol crime) they can get rid of it anonymously. BAD.

If a BG has an illegal gun but doesn't feel it is hot, I really doubt that he will bring it in for this or most any other deal.

Often Grandma or Anti-mom gets rid of a good self defense weapon. BAD.
 
Hmmm,,,
I always wonder about the Drop off your ill gotten goods "No questions asked" programs.
I work extensively with High resolution cameras. There are cameras out now that are high res, zoom-focus, full color and smaller than a cartridge ink pen.
So, Mr BG comes to a pre-determined location, turns in his hot gun, gets his portrait done in such quality that one can tell what time he shaved this morning.
Also, another camera taking pictures of his ride, lic. plate, and anyone with him.
No possible charges from the "turn in your Gun" program, but, LE certainly could generate a big file of "Persons of interest".
Don't be fooled by the "quality" of stills released from crime scenes that were video captured from 20 year old commercial VCR equipment, Todays CCD surveillance equipment is orders of magnatude better, and not hard to use or very expensive.
I believe that, legally, It's not a "Sting", Just "Information gathering"
Smile!
 
According to this link the store is working with a FFL who is making estimates (and presumably doing the requisite paper work) and they're giving customers a credit based on the value of the gun. They go on to mention that "any guns used in crimes will be turned over to police" though I'd be interested in how they plan on figuring this out besides just running the serial number (which would only catch a fraction of the number of guns actually used to commit a crime).

Interestingly enough they don't plan on destroying the guns. Instead they're going to auction them off. :what:

It all makes sense now. I wish I thought of that one.
 
From a legal stand point,what would be the difference in that and a church paying $50 for guns in a "buyback program"? No FFL needed to buy or trade for guns FTF in MOST states.
 
There's a very ambiguous line between occassional face-to-face buy, sale or trade of personally owned guns and what ATF would call "dealing in firearms without a license". One would have to have a special arrangement to carry this out.

My problem with this idea, is the kind of people who would trade a firearm for an "adult toy" might not be the same people who would be likely to misuse a gun.

These schemes get a lot of publicity, but even the National Academy of Sciences evaluation of "gun buybacks" pointed out that there are 6,500 handgun homicides per year, 65 million handguns; therefore, to possibly prevent one handgun homicide, a buyback would have to randomly select 10,000 handguns to get one potential murder weapon

I'll go further:
o at $50.00 a gun that would be a cost of $500,000 to possibly nab one potential murder weapon;
o the typical person turning in a gun at a buyback often does not match the murderer profile;
o the guns turned in often don't match the typical crime gun profile;
o Criminologist Marvin Wolfgang (who hated guns) studied 588 homicides and concluded that Motive and Opportunity outweighed Means; he concluded that few homicides due to shooting would be avoided merely if a gun were not present: the vast majority could be accomplished by other means.

On the other hand, $500,000 a year could put a few full time officers on patrol. Every econometric study that tries to measure the impact of Right-To-Carry laws on the crime rate (over two dozen original academic studies), credits increased police presence with 16% to 18% of the reduction in crime (among other weighting factors).


ADDED: This is not a gov't project or an anti-gun grandstand. Following the link http://blog.al.com/breaking/2011/02/alabama_sex_toy_shop_guns_for_toys.html shows that this is set up as a self-funding operation, with cooperation of an FFL, guns will be run thru NCIC to spot stolen guns etc., unwanted clean guns will be given good safe homes, profits will be donated to charity. It still strikes me as more of a "feel good" gesture.
 
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When I followed the link to the story about the gun buyback at the adult toy shop, my browser gave me a "pop up blocked" message. :confused:

Who knows, this might end up like the "no broken windows" policy having an unexpected benefit. In the comments, I noted a few anti-gun commentators who balked at the clean guns being auctioned to legitimate buyers to raise money. If those folks get exposed to a different point of view: there are good gun owners, it might be worth it.
 
The one thats doing it north of me in Huntsville says they are auctioning them off after they are checked out by Police. May get a good deal.
 
The Humane Society should do the same thing! Bring in your gun(s) get a puppy! THAT would be a huge "win-win" scenario. The Humane Society is also lefty, so they could justify any monetary expense as their contribution to the community.....

The puppy would grow into a home alarm. I don't see a down side to any of this!
 
Funny how so many things that were given by some one's grandfather and was legal in his day are now classified as illegal. We will have to see how many of us own illegal mags in the near future.
 
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