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OK its not just my bad spelling but an attempt to describe what happens when an over 60 gun nut gets to wondering and thinking.

I occasionally read were one or another of us writes "too bad they don't make a replica 'fill in the blank'". That got me to thinking back in the way back Monagram made a plastic put it together with glue Colt Model 1860. I understand some model airplane/tank/ railroad guys were able to make nice looking non functional models from them.

For a bit I had some of the replica models zinc guns from Japan (near caused a 20 year old to have a stroke with the "theatrical version" of the M1928A1 Thompson SMG and its functioning blanks).In fact when the Army sent me to Germany I surprised some folks by being able to strip the German P1/P38 then their standard side arm because, well I had learned to take apart and put back together my zinc one in the dark.

Tameya or some Japanese plastic model company did things like the C96 for a bit.

Any how I got to thinking, given the number of gun nuts playing with low end 3D printers wouldn't it be neat if someone offered non firing plastic models of Say a Kerr or Adams? Maybe some other of the nobody makes a working replica of it BP guns. Maybe even sell or give away the programs to make them.

What say yea?

I suppose if you had a multi million dollar metal 3d printer you might could make working guns. To much for us just got the hang of the twentieth century and here we are in the 21st folks to wrap our heads around.

-kBob
 
Maybe you could make wax parts, dip them in ceramic slurry, fire harden them and the cast them in an appropriate metal.

That seems to me to be the real use for a printer.
 
In fact when the Army sent me to Germany I surprised some folks by being able to strip the German P1/P38 then their standard side arm because, well I had learned to take apart and put back together my zinc one in the dark.


Ditto me, only with the 1911 and the MP-40. They were fun "toys" when I was in high school. Wonder what they are worth now? The .45 sold for $24.95 as I recall in 'bout 1975 or so. RMI was Replica Models Incorporated. Pretty darned realistic replicas too.


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McGunner has a good idea. I saw a printed part last semester. I thought it would be ideal to make parts for casting via lost wax.
 
I'm waiting for the Star Trek replicators, just ask the computer to print out any gun you want and it's in your hands in seconds, atom for atom the same as a real one.

AND DON'T FORGET THE AMMO TOO!!!! :D!
 
Just whittle one out of a bar of soap and color it with shoe polish.
If it was good enough for Dillinger.........
 
Just went out to the shop and searched the models bin. Found a Saucy Cans French 75 kit from Palmer Cannons, Marushin M712 ( C96 Scnell fire) and a box of LS plastic models of two WWII Japanese Handgrenades, but as I feared the Monagram M1860 was in fact gone. Found a box of 1970's to 80's Japanamation robot/war suit/ machine thingees as well, even some zinc dicast Soviet made vehicles and cannons, but no BP stuff.....well I did com across some pillow ticking I forgot I had.

May build a M101 105 howitzer kit I bought 30 years or so back that is still waiting out there to set infront of my "I Love Me" military shadow boxes. Not sure what to do with the T37 Tweety Bird or Monagrams V2 and launcher trailor.

I wonder if some one had a Kerr if individual parts might be vacuformed then painted carefully and combined to make a decent hang it in a shadow box display piece?

For you newer guys ....Yes I am Kerr Krazy and poor.

I know there is a currently available die cast zinc model of the LeMat, but one might buy a used working Coltish or Remingtonish brasser for what they cost so they are hard to justify.

Pretty sad at the moment as I am missing the Tallahassee Gunshow at the fair grounds for lack of gas money for a 300plus mile round trip, never mind money to actually buy anything. Always nice to visit a show off my regular circuit.

Real Colt is back from being weaned (and 14 hands at 7 months) and awaiting the snip so making smoke and noise in the back yard is out.

Glump.

-kBob

-kBob
 
It opens up the door for quite the cottage industry potential. And it would be a great way to fill in spaces in a collection if the real things are just too much money or simply not available at any (reasonable) price.

One thing though. The computer and printer can't just make up stuff out of thin air from pictures. Someone would need to measure and generate the CAD drawings to allow the printer to have the data to work with. We're talking access to a gun which the owner is willing to see broken down fully and many hours of time from someone to measure the parts and produce the CAD files. THAT might be a bigger stumbling block than access to a printer.
 
I don't know, with my uncle's help a certain unnamed idiot who will remain my brother built a model M16. The cartridges use BP percussion caps which provide enough energy to cycle the thing in full auto.

Obsessive machine builders are going to build machines, the amount of trouble is not a factor to them.

This same unnamed idiot recently made my poor innocent son a "rifle" with a sheet metal barrel. When a "cork" is pushed into it with a ramrod a percussion cap pushes the cork at an obscene velocity for a seven year old child. Since his father took it away from him I was forced to be the voice of reason and gave it back to the builder with detailed anatomical descriptions of where it would be placed should either of my male children be given another.
 
OW, just when I thought that the creative use of the English language had been mortally wounded by the two fingered troglodytes and their "Gruntlish" you come along with a great turn of phrase.

Thanks for the laugh and restoring my faith. :D
 
"an obscene velocity for a seven year old child"

I loved the post, but I am trying to imagine how you chronograph a seven year old child...
 
"If you pick on the prose it will never heal."


You really need to add that as a signature line.

My compliments.
 
Meanwhile, back that the OP, six or sixty the male of the species has a desire to build things.In some that desire is weaker and others it is far stronger. Then you get OMB's with access to tools of mass construction and the atrocities are magnified exponentially.

The before mentioned unnamed idiot has an interest in firearms and engines. His products tend to have either a firearm or engine flair to them. Luckily my brother has neither the advanced skills or imagination to produce anything of lasting consequence.

Our uncle, on the other hand, had both skill and imagination not to mention an extremely wide band of interests. He was an OMB that was an insult to the peace and dignity of the neighborhood. Nothing was safe or sacred around him. Firearms? He once made a "replica" of a heavy machine gun that when connected to an acetylene bottle made veterans swear it was a 50 caliber "Ma Deuce." Had the man lived to be sixty, I have no doubt he would still be sitting at his milling machine, ramming sand molds for his foundry furnaces, "creatively acquiring" metal for said furnaces and no doubt scaring my children as badly as he scared me.

My experience with old guys has always been that they may no longer be able to raise cattle, cut wood, drop forge machine hubs or build semi trailers but they have not forgotten how. Cannonman strikes me at the type that is no stranger to that most insidious tool of the OMB called a milling machine and it's partner in crime the turret lathe. It's only natural now that he is an ancient his ideas come to him and he wants to see them solidified in steel and brass. I say more power to him, provided he behaves himself in Jasper county Indiana.
 
Sorry OW but I'm a dyed in the wool OMB here myself. With the retirement dream workshop in the basement for firearms, wood working and model airplane building all but done it's time to turn my attention to the large garage which will be the home to my big lathe, mill, welder and other implements of torture and construction.

Once that's done there will be a short lull and then you can look to the west for the glow and possibly the mushroom cloud if the weather is clear enough..... :D
 
BCRider said:
Sorry OW but I'm a dyed in the wool OMB here myself. With the retirement dream workshop in the basement for firearms, wood working and model airplane building all but done it's time to turn my attention to the large garage which will be the home to my big lathe, mill, welder and other implements of torture and construction.

Once that's done there will be a short lull and then you can look to the west for the glow and possibly the mushroom cloud if the weather is clear enough..... :D
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Should you decide to pour the faceplate of a lathe out of aluminum, keep in mind your niece's aluminum cookware is off limits! Once again, if you want to commit insane acts of mass construction, more power to you. Just keep it out of my county!

Added thought: When you get around to building the rifling lathe, and you will, remember it's easier to keep the barrel static and push and turn the cutter than spin the barrel.
 
When you get around to building the rifling lathe, and you will......
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Oh, you think you know how we are SOOOO well, don't you....

.... well, you're right. Or at least making one is on the "To Do" list. But I may not live long enough. In addition to a host of gunsmithing I want to do there's also the fleet of two wheeled vehicles I have. Both human powered and internal combustion. They all scream for my attention as well. Then there's the small matter of actually getting out and playing with all the toys.... I can't believe that I ever found time to work before :D
 
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