Concealing on first date?

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I was wondering if any of you guys who are single carry your concealed on first dates? I would like to, but it seems like it would be hard to, especially in situations like here in AZ where I would have to take it off for dinner at any restraunt that serves alcohol. I just dont want to scare a girl off if she finds out im carrying.

Women's behavior often belies their rhetoric. Most women are attracted to men with guns despite their rhetoric to the contrary. And if a few women are scared off, so what? There are plenty of fish in the sea.
 
I have a very steady girlfriend, we've lived together for over 2 years, but when I was single, I carried everywhere - still do. She likes to target shoot, but she's quite gentle-hearted and has no interest in hunting (but when I hunt successfully, she cooks up the meat and digs right in).

When we were dating, every time she'd hug me or took my arm, she'd bump my J-frame. When her drunken and abusive ex-husband went to threatening her life, she said she felt safer that I was armed. More than once, she asked me to sleep on her sofa when he was in town, and I did.

I didn't make a big deal out of carrying, but one night she was really scared and I sat her down and told her, "I don't want to kill your ex, it would be ugly and brutal. However, if he comes here and backs us into a corner, I will do it to save your life or mine. I truly hope he stays elsewhere, drunk or sober, and leaves us alone."

If she had said "Eeeeww, guns are icky" I would have been down the road without looking back. I dated a few girls with that attitude, but only until they stated it. The way I figured it, a girl that out of touch with reality likely has other problems too deep for me to fix. It takes a certain kind of woman to get along with me and earn my respect, or the deal's off. I found out a couple times, giving up what I believe in for romance is a dead-end street with a train wreck ahead.

So my advice is, if you carry anyway, carry on the first date. If she finds out, you have a good opportunity to assess whether she's worthy of you. If she flunks the attitude test, she can keep dating bliss-ninnies until she finds one she likes. You, on the other hand, will be farther on your way to finding a real woman, an American woman who is deserving of a real American man like yourself.

Parker
 
catspa, and maybe a wife who outshoots you on the range and makes corrections for previous shot errors. Im so blessed to have mine.

There were a few "Eww icky" attitudes ladies carried around in my time, and I hope the best for them, but not with me around.
 
Pay attention to what a female poster has to say: Take note of what KarenTOC said:

It's not a pro-gun vs anti-gun issue. It's a trust and respect issue. If you don't mention it, she'll conclude that you didn't respect her enough to be up-front about it, and she'll wonder why she should trust you.
 
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It's not a pro-gun vs anti-gun issue. It's a trust and respect issue. If you don't mention it, she'll conclude that you didn't respect her enough to be up-front about it, and she'll wonder why she should trust you.

Trying to get in her pants on a first date is disrespectful. Keeping it to myself that I'm armed is not.

The first date is just the icebreaker. Trust is earned.
 
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I do see potential problems if she wants to put her arm around your waist should you stroll along the street. She might be freaked out and run, feeling the gun.

Maybe you should place it under your driver's seat, should she open your glove compartment out of curiosity.
 
First dates are just that, first dates. She's trying to figure out who you are, and vice versa. The reality of the situation is that some women and close-minded to guns, and you'd do well to weed them out right away. OTOH, a lot of women have never given it much thought one way or the other, but if you spring it on her unexpectedly, before she knows and trusts you, she might very well do the "safe" thing and just back off. "Don't know him, not sure I trust him...he carries a gun? I don't really like this!" I can't say I would blame her, when I look at it from her perspective.

In the same vein, it's not something you want to wait to mention until you're engaged, either. Give it a few dates, and politely mention that you would like to carry your gun with you on this next date. Reassure her it is normal and legal for you to carry, but you hadn't been doing so because you didn't want to frighten her. By that point, guns probably came up in passing in conversation anyway ("What did I do today? Well, I went to a 3-gun match..."), so you should know how she feels about them in general. Brownie points: you look like a gentleman.

Of course, if you mentioned it right away and she whipped out her H&K P7M8 and you started talking 9mm vs .45, you know you have a winner. I'm assured that this only happens in Japanese anime and manga, though, so don't get your hopes up.

Mike
 
It's been said here before, if a woman doesn't like guns/doesn't approve of carrying guns, I'll show her where the door is and how the knob works. Have been going steady with current g/f for six months now, and she does like guns. :D
 
I was wondering if any of you guys who are single carry your concealed on first dates?

I used to, when I was single. Now I'm quite happy dating an attractive woman who also enjoys firearms. It's a great way to break the ice if you give/receive a hug; "what's that?" Oh, it's my ____ pistol. :)
 
Many apparently think that it depends on what you intentions are and how serious you are. But making excuses, leaving out pertinent facts, or concealing a truth for the sake of convenience is a bad way to begin a relationship. Besides, what do you have to be bashful about? If you can't be up front about a fundamental right that is deisgned to keep the both of you safe, what's the point of carrying? Or dating, for that matter?
 
Honesty is the best...

but with a healthy dose of tact. You could always lead in with a story that lets her know you shoot, or know something about guns while you are on the phone or something.

Her: what'd you do this week?
you: Oh my buddy Joe got a new pistol and wanted to test it out so we went to the range and shot some paper targets.
Her: you have a gun?
You: (reading her tone and searching for land mines) yeah, I shoot sometimes. That doesn't freak you out does it?

Now you've been honest without revealing too much and left her in a position where she has to explain how she feels about guns before you move on to "Should I take the AK out of my trunk then?"

If she says guns are violent and terrible and she never wants to be around it you can decide whether to convert her or lose her number.
 
So my advice is, if you carry anyway, carry on the first date. If she finds out, you have a good opportunity to assess whether she's worthy of you. If she flunks the attitude test, she can keep dating bliss-ninnies until she finds one she likes. You, on the other hand, will be farther on your way to finding a real woman, an American woman who is deserving of a real American man like yourself.

My thoughts exactly!

Let us know how it goes though... if you don't mind ;)
 
Yea I got a similar situation at school (i'm 15) and everybody in my grade knows that I hunt and like guns alot (girls also). I just don't want them to be scared of a gun lover like myself (espesialy the women.
 
If memory serves, this topic has come up once before on THR.

I generally do not carry on a date b/c I may end up having a drink. I did carry on one first date, though, and felt quite awkward through the whole thing.
 
Just tell her your packin up front and discuss it. ON a lighter note, tell her your packin an anaconda loaded with 6 shots. You will probably get a second date...better be able to back it up though

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Here you go take one of these. You may end up with more phone #'s than you know what to do with. I can't help with the false advertising claims though.:evil:

Seriously I would not carry on the first date. Bring the subject up lightly and go from there. Good luck sir let us know how it all goes.
 
my recommendation, for what it's worth, is to not spill EVERYTHING on the first date.

Carry smartly, and if you end up out at a bar, "forget" something in your car and run back to lock up your gun.

Carrying isn't "bad" for many people, but maybe misunderstood. Also, give yourself time for her to find out a bunch of stuff that she likes before you throw stuff she'll "have to get used to" into the mix.
 
Hmm I'd have to go with if she's put off by firearms then its probably not going to work out as I carry one almost any time I'm out of the house. Carrying a firearm is something I do, its not who I am, but it is ingrained in my personality and it has an impact on my daily life. I don't go places that don't allow weapons, if I am forced to I make the trips short and precise. I don't go out and get hammered drunk because that isn't responsible.
 
Carry smartly, and if you end up out at a bar, "forget" something in your car and run back to lock up your gun.
I used to put my wallet in the door pocket for that very occasion.
 
Folks, we've had quite a few of these threads, and they always seem to devolve. I reckon by now that everything really important in this thread has already been said, centering around:

trust
respect
tact
good sense
honesty

Now, I have no intention of editing anyone else's posts because they forget this isn't a men's club or the locker room. Remember, anyone can read THR. Show firearm owners in their best light.

John
 
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