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Cop killed with Rhino ammo during DUI arrest

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  1. TheeBadOne

    TheeBadOne Member

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    Deputy David Jones
    Garfield County Sheriff's Office, UT
    End of Watch: Sunday, January 26, 2003


    Age: 44
    Tour of Duty: 16 mo

    Deputy Jones was shot and killed during a routine traffic stop. He had pulled over a pickup truck at approximately 15:30 hours because he suspected the driver was intoxicated. While the passenger of the truck observed, the driver was given a field sobriety test and failed. Deputy Jones handcuffed the suspect and placed him in the back seat of his patrol car and called for a tow truck to pick up the suspect's vehicle.

    The passenger, who had been riding in the truck, grabbed a rifle from inside the truck and pointed it at Deputy Jones. Deputy Jones drew his firearm and ordered the suspect to drop the weapon. The suspect opened fire and one round struck Deputy Jones in the chest. The round penetrated Deputy Jones's bullet resistant vest. Deputy Jones was able to return fire, sticking the suspect once.

    The suspect then un-cuffed his friend and both escaped the scene. When the tow truck arrived, the driver found Deputy Jones wounded and called for help, but Deputy Jones died before an ambulance arrived.

    The two suspects were apprehended within a few hours. One of the suspects had sustained gunshot wounds to the arm and chest from the shootout with Deputy Jones. Both suspects were charged with capital murder. Investigation showed that the suspect's weapon was loaded with "Rhino", or "Cop Killer" ammunition, which is designed to pierce through bullet proof materials.

    Deputy Jones had been with his agency for 16 months and is survived by his wife and five children.
     
  2. Greg L

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    My sympathies to Officer Jones' family. I am also glad that these two slugs were caught an hopefully will be put down in short order.

    That said however mentioning the ammunition used seems to be more hysterical bleating on the part of the articles author than anything else. Most any round coming out of a rifle will punch through a typical bullet resistant vest. That kind of emotional sensationalism really doesn't need to be in an article of this type (or even at the title for the thread :rolleyes: )

    Greg
     
  3. foghornl

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    anybody have an e-mail addy for that bleating crank that wrote about "Cop Killer" ammo ? ? ?

    I can think of several things to say, none of which said [ahem] "reporter' wants to hear.
     
  4. Jeeper

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    Greg

    Especially at the short distance here.
     
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    Is this approved LEO policy - to take one vehicle occupant into custody without somehow "securing" another occupant ...?
     
  7. Tamara

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    "Rhino" "Cop-killer" ammo... :scrutiny:
     
  8. BerettaNut92

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    Yeah, I thought the whole white rhino thing was a joke?
     
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    He's a lot more dead than he would be with 'sporting' ammunition.

    Seriously though, that sucks.
     
  10. gburner

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    Condolences to the officer's family.
    One wonders if the press would have been happier if the late officer had been bludgeoned to death with a claw hammer.

    "OFFICER KILLED WITH 'COP KILLER' HAMMER":rolleyes:
     
  11. cordex

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    or OFFICER STABBED REPEATEDLY WITH ARMOR PIERCING ICEPICK
     
  12. Cosmoline

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    Wait a minute. There is no such thing as "black rhino" ammunition. I've seen virtually every brand of ammo in production, and bought far too much of it. I have NEVER seen anything called "black rhino," outside of the VPC and the twisted brains of certain gun-grabbers. Has this reporter just lied? If so, let us crush this newspaper with protests.
     
  13. TheeBadOne

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    TallPine-
    The driver was arrested for DUI, the passenger had not done a thing wrong at this point. Can't you see the flaming/screaming if someone posted a thread about riding in a car, in the passenger seat, when the car was stopped and the driver arrested for DUI...

    "I was just sitting there in the passenger seat minding my own business, not breaking any laws (my pal the driver was the one who broke the law). The JBT cop pulled me out, searched me, and secured me in the back of a squad car while he processed my buddy. He trampled all my rights just because he had a badge on......." :rolleyes:
     
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    This is fraud or negligence. Something's very wrong here.:scrutiny:
     
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    so was it a pistol caliber carbine rifle,
    or was it a .458 rigby with hard cast rhino loads?
     
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    The main thing that is wrong here is that a cop was murdered in cold blood.
     
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    Something doesn't meet the B.S. test here...

    Since the stuff doesn't exist, and the perp's weapon of choice was a rifle, capable of sending all sorts of ammo through standard issue Kevlar vests, I'd have to take this with a grain of salt or two, pending a source for the article and who the investigators were. :(
     
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    can't find a email for the Sheriff's office but here is their very scant home page with a phonenumber:

    http://utahreach.org/garfield/govt/sheriff.htm

    my sympathies for the deputy and his family. death to his assailants.

    Bobby
     
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    TheeBadOne:

    I was just asking a question - I thought maybe there was a lesson to be learned here.

    It's a tough situation ... I thought maybe the policy might have been to get everyone out of the car first.

    I can't believe anyone would kill over a DUI arrest.
     
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    WHere did that posting come from? What's the link? I think it's terrible that a cop got shot, and I'm glad he got off a few before he went down. But this reference to "cop killer" bullets from a rifle--BULLETS THAT DO NOT FRICKING EXIST-- has raised my blood pressure. WHO WROTE THAT PIECE!? I want a piece of their hide. They reported a bald-faced LIE. Not an arguable legal issue--but a LIE. A lie designed for one purpose--to outlaw virtually all ammunition more potent than a .45 ACP, from a .44 mag to a .30'06 and beyond.
     
  21. Alan Smithiee

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    of late in my area I have noticed a tendency to see 2 PD cars at any traffic stop. we haven't had any problems with stops,, but I think we can all agree that 2 officers on any stop is a whole lot better than just one officer.

    condolences to the Officer, his family, and his dept.

    and Geroge, can you kick that reporters butt?
     
  22. Cosmoline

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    It gets even better

    Check this out:

    By late morning Monday, a search warrant was being executed at the Escalante apartment the men rented. Investigators were looking for "Rhino" bullets, commonly referred to as "cop killer" bullets, according to the warrant. The bullet that killed Jones penetrated his bullet proof vest, the warrant stated."

    http://www.upoa.org/memorial/DavidJones.html

    Let me get this straight. They had a warrant to search for something that DOES NOT EXIST. WHAT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS! I could have some real fun with that as the defense counsel. No indication from the report whether they found them or not
    :rolleyes:
     
  23. Andrew Wyatt

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    Why is it important that it was a cop who was murdered, as opposed to any other member of humanity?
     
  24. spacemanspiff

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    a simple browser search for 'rhino armor piercing' and the first dozen or so listings all state that there is no such thing as 'black rhino' ammo, and that it was all a publicity stunt.

    know what happens when a journalist takes a viagra pill?






    he grows taller.
     
  25. cordex

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    Because with any group, deaths within the organization tend to cause members more angst than deaths of unknown, faceless members of the general public. When TFL/THR members die, it affects me more than deaths of individuals with whom I have no true connection. But it works on an even more vague scale. Ever watch the news? Ever see them report on overseas events by saying "Two Americans killed today in ..." or "several Americans injured when ..." even if foreigners were also killed or injured? Simple group dynamics. The general viewership is more interested in the deaths of people within their social group (in this case, as Americans) than they are with deaths of foreigners.

    That said, since police are the ones charged with catching killers, there tends to be greater push for retribution when an officer is shot than if some "mere civilian" gets gunned down. This is not positive, as it tends to foster the "us versus them" attitude that can lead to all kinds of bad things.
     
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