Cougar attacks-man shoots-maybe charged

[NickEllis]

What a moron. I'm of a mind to call her extension and complain.... and to think I might have considered donating to their program... (/sarcasm)

 

[frankie_the_yankee]

Blackfork writes: How did the govt get involved in this?

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Surely they weren't crazy enough to call them after the shooting? Why would you want to involve law inforcement in this...at ALL?

Shoot. Shovel. Shut up.

The article refers to a "neighborhood". I am thinking that the noise of the rifle shot was heard by many people.

Where I live, in the country, this would not raise any concerns. But in the typical subdivision a rifle shot at nighttime would generally bring on some kind of reaction and/or investigation.

 

[BobMcG]

The guy did what probably all of us would have done if we found ourselves facing the same predicament. The lady (Ms. Wendy) is responding in a way that none of us can relate to. Humm, maybe that's why the vote is so lop-sided in favor of the guy 1424 to 221. I just added a no myself.

And just who are these other 221 wonders of society? Did Ms. Wendy vote 221 times?

 

[Crunker1337]

It's one thing if the lion was only a threat to the dog... but once the lion made a move towards a human then it's a whole 'nother ball game, and I don't think this guy needs any more grief.

 

[DarthBubba]

Armed man 1, Dangerous Human Acclimated Puma 0

The only regret this guy should have is having to waste a round on this worthless cat. I think the state should repay this man for the cost of ammo seeing how he did them a real favor and all.
As to The statements of some mindless, Gia Worshiping, Hairy Legged, Unshorn Sister of the Global Warming Apocalypse lets just hope she finds her place in the food web at the jaws of a hungry carnivore someday. Bet she would have no qualms about defending her own sorry Commie Watermelon party A** then.
Props to this guy and if he needs a legal defence fund I'll chip in a few bucks to fight the Stupidity.

DarthBubba

 

[czdavid]

He "baited" the cat? What?! She intends to tell me that this man purposefully tied his dogs up outside to get the cat to come eat them? If this is indeed the case, there are bigger issues that must be dealt with other than the fact that he shot a cat. She is truly a sick person.

I wonder what would happen if she tried to give one of these cats a kiss because she loves them so much?

 

[Mannlicher]

guy needs to learn what shovels are for.................

 

[jungleroy]

I really wonder if Ms Wendy Keefover-Ring, is suggesting that there is a season for self preservation.
Really sounds like Jeremy Kocar was only acting in defense of himself and his own. People should not be punished for sticking up for them selves.
I hope the outcome is in his favor.
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Also found this on the incident.
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http://www.wifr.com/nationalnews/headlines/10413187.html

 

[Zundfolge]

Your rape analogy is out of line.

I'd say her assertion that chaining one's beloved pets outside is somehow "baiting" is pretty much out of line, low road and offensive.

Well you and I will just have to agree to disagree.

 

[Big Boomer]

cyclist blogged: I supposed that children are not to be allowed outside to play in their own backyard after dark either.

I wonder if she thinks anyone that does this is "baiting" the wildlife? They should be charged!

"Fred! come quick! A lion has our baby!"
"Sorry honey, it's not yet in season and we have to save up to buy a tag anyhow"
"call 911, they'll know what to do!"

 

[hockeybum]

"cougars are naturally peaceful"
"howd u get that scar?"
"cougar bit me"

would have been better not to shoot the lion, but under the circumstances it was the correct decision. honestly i would have shot as well.

 

[yesit'sloaded]

This is another great quote from their site:

aerial gunning is an ineffective yet highly expensive method for controlling coyotes. They point to an array on non-lethal methods, such as guard dogs and electric fencing, which are less costly and more effective.

 

[kd7nqb]

If a guy came running at me, killed my dog and threatened me I would be justified in shooting him. Why does this cougar get more protections?

 

[dasmi]

Bait the lion with stupid moonbats.

 

[Millwright]

Probably ought to give the guy some more ammo. He shot a dangerous predator that had become acclimatized to humans. Probably a young cat just out on its own and found a place with lots of easy food.

As suburbia moves out into wilder landscapes these sorts of encounters are going to be ever more frequent. And while the predators still have most of their skills and wits, the prey is definitely getting dumber. Most of the new suburbanites/eco-types knowledge of animal behaviors is confined to watching some nature shows. >MW

 

[Firethorn]

knowledge of animal behaviors is confined to watching some nature shows.

And not the good nature shows either. You know, the ones where they show predators being predators, catching, killing and eating prey.

Baiting requires intent. The guy wasn't trying to lure the cougar in.

Chaining small dogs(or any dogs for that matter) in cat country is stupid, but unless there's an ordinance against it(that's advertised) I fail to see how it could be argued that he was criminally negligent. Animal cruelty charges are generally reserved for the really stupid - keeping animals in conditions that are extremely unsanitary, not feeding them or providing clean water, forcing them to be without shelter in extremely hot/cold conditions. Most dogs can take a surprising temperature range if they're acclimated* to it, have access to water, shade, and some sort of covered shelter if it gets really cold. Even better if there's several of them, they can spread out if it's hot, huddle if it's cold.

*IE don't put a dog used to being in the house outside in a unheated doghouse just before a blizzard.

 

[Jamie C.]

Bait the lion with stupid moonbats.

I believe that if you do that, you've eliminated any reason to shoot the lion.

Think about it.


J.C.

 

[2RCO]

Apparently only 14 people have been killed in the U.S. by Cougars since 1900. Which makes them a heck of a lot less deadly than deer.

 

[yesit'sloaded]

Tell those 14 people that.

 

[Robert Hairless]

Fair is fair, so I will defend Wendy Keefover-Ring.

Cougars evidently are a protected species in Colorado but human beings are not. That man had a duty to let himself be killed by the cougar. He should be prosecuted.

 

[230RN]

Just another of those situations where if only one of the two parties had kept their mouths shut, there wouldn't be a problem.

And there's a lot to be said for those Aguila SSS cartridges.

Oh, and, hey folks, don't bother calling that number. It'll only get her more riled up and self-righteous. I would and will contact the DOW to let my instincts on the matter and my feeling about pets being members of the family be known.

"... that's not how we do things in Colorado..."

Sounds kind of "motherly," doncha think? Well, maybe "supercilious" is a better way of putting it.

 

[woof]

I don't have any reason to think this guy baited the cat and if I saw any predator even look sideways at any of my animals I would shoot it. That said, there "are" those who would use dogs to bait a cougar and lay an ambush for it then claim they were wakened in the middle of the night etc etc. The fact that the cat had killed other domestic animals still means he did the neighborhood a favor. But really, we can't be so sure his story is true either. At any rate, he gets a thumb down from me just for leaving the dogs chained out - that does smell fishy.

 

[Sheldon J]

"Cougars..? Nope, I haven't seen any cougars," he said as he leaned on his shovel. "What do they look like?"[

Ah yes the three SSS Shoot, Shovel, and Shut up!

 

[RLsnow]

did they say what rifle he used?

 

[RoadkingLarry]

What calibre for cougar?