Cowboys take up AK47s to combat drug runners on Mexican frontier

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Note that they call it the "Mexican" frontier.
I'm pretty sure Arizona is still a member of the Union.

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Cowboys take up AK47s to combat drug runners on Mexican frontier
By Philip Sherwell, near Nogales, Arizona
(Filed: 20/11/2005)

As he careered along the rock-strewn gulley towards his silver mine deep in the Sonoran desert of southern Arizona, Roger McCaslin first checked his bowie knife, then his pistol, and finally his Kalashnikov. From the road, he had already noticed that something was wrong.

"The gate's broken and the door on the trailer's open. They've been here, I know it," he said ominously. "I just hope they've moved on - for their sake."
Roger McCaslin with an AK47 at his silver mine
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Under the harsh sun, Mr McCaslin's black cowboy hat cast a shadow over his droopy moustache and a face so deeply creased that it resembled cracked saddle leather.

Welcome to the Wild West 2005, where modern-day cowboys still guard their land from interlopers - but using AK47s and four-wheel drives instead of Winchester rifles and horses.

Mr McCaslin's small mine sits on a knoll of red earth and scrub near the Mexican border. Like his 19th-century predecessors, he is sure there is money in "them thar hills" after a geological survey indicated there may be rich veins of silver.

Today, however, he has other priorities. For the mine also sits in the middle of a network of trails used by heavily-armed Mexican trafficking gangs to smuggle people and drugs into America.

Notoriously porous, the border has reached new levels of lawlessness this year as smugglers, known as "coyotes", have become increasingly brazen, willing to fire on anyone - from border patrols to the likes of Mr McCaslin - who gets in their way.

President George W. Bush plans to announce a border security initiative in coming weeks as part of his effort to win back support for his presidency from doubting conservatives.

The political row about America's "soft southern underbelly" - bolstered by fears that terrorists may slip in through it - has led to growing support among Republicans for a radical plan to build a 2,000-mile steel and wire fence along the entire border. The Homeland Security Department says that such a fence would be a waste of money, however.

Meanwhile, in a high-profile campaign launched earlier this year, hundreds of volunteers flocked to Arizona from across America to join the Minuteman Project of civilian "monitors" patrolling the border to record illegal crossings. Denounced as "vigilantes" by President Bush and as dangerous amateurs by the United States border patrol (many of the volunteers carried legal side-arms), they have drawn further attention to the problems of border security.

Mr McCaslin, 50, says US patrols have increased in recent weeks as public pressure has mounted - and as he edged up the track towards his land, a helicopter swept repeatedly over a nearby patch of bush.

Kalashnikov in hand, he strode up to the 1950s-style Airstream trailer home where he stays when working at the mine. He kicked open the door which swung on broken hinges. Clearly there had been overnight visitors: the interior had been ransacked, shelves pulled out, coffee and biscuits scattered across the carpet and the bed torn apart.

They had already left, to the apparent disappointment of Mr McCaslin, whose regular job is as a wrangler (horseman) at a "dude ranch" where visitors saddle up for rides through the desert.

Not every day passes without confrontation, however. He recounted several gunfights with the "coyotes", including one occasion when he and his business partner came under fire at dusk as they barbecued steaks.

"They started the war when they started shooting at us. One time, my partner definitely hit one of them. The guy got away, but I doubt he got far. His friends won't have taken him to hospital. They probably just left him out there somewhere," said Mr McCaslin, gesturing to the inhospitable terrain where rattlesnakes and tarantulas add to the dangers.

From his vantage point at the mine, he has watched long lines of illegal immigrants traipsing north through the desert, leaving their detritus as they passed. Discarded everywhere, in disused mines and beneath bushes, are the cheap clothes and bags that they abandon to travel faster and less conspicuously. Empty water bottles litter the landscape.

Once Mr McCaslin found a 300lb stash of marijuana hidden in a hollow. "I called up the border patrol who came and took it away. Then that night I sat up here and watched the car lights of the coyotes as they searched and searched for the stuff. Boy, they must have been mad," he said with a satisfied grin.

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They started the war when they started shooting at us.
Well, that guy gets it. Mr. President?
The Homeland Security Department says that such a fence would be a waste of money, however.
Why?
 
Is anyone else bothered by Americans using commie/terrorist guns to defend America??

Get that man an M14 or a Garand!!!!
 
Is anyone else bothered by Americans using commie/terrorist guns to defend America??
Nope.
One of the benefits of winning the Cold War is that I can now buy a commie gun at Big-5 for 80 bucks. God bless Capitalism.
 
dasmi said:
Nope.
One of the benefits of winning the Cold War is that I can now buy a commie gun at Big-5 for 80 bucks. God bless Capitalism.


Hey, that's great and I hope you buy as many as you can!

I only think it is odd, if not outright wrong, to defend our country with what is originally a commie gun, and is still the weapon used by our current enemy.

Call me hyper-patriotic if you must. :D
 
Beethoven said:
Is anyone else bothered by Americans using commie/terrorist guns to defend America??

Get that man an M14 or a Garand!!!!


Heck if i use a weapon designed by a communist to kill socialists, whats wrong with that :evil:

actually i have a lot of respect for the AK-47 designer, he built it to defend his country, and there's nothing more admirable then that.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1059879,00.html
 
Get that man an M14 or a Garand!!!!

Are you going to give him the $800- $1000 extra bucks he needs for a M1A? And as much as I like Garands, a 8 round fixed magazine isn't quite the same as a 30 round removable, not to mention it would still cost twice as much as an AK.
 
Rugged, reliable, relatively cheap, and easy to maintain, a fully-loaded (30 round mag) AK weighs nine and a half pounds. The ammo is cheap (1000 rounds for about $80). I don't care much for the ergodynamics (designed for people with shorter arms than I have) but it's still an excellent choice if you're on a budget and need to chase off coyotes (either the tw-legged or four-legged kind).

I only think it is odd, if not outright wrong, to defend our country with what is originally a commie gun, and is still the weapon used by our current enemy.

Funny how people have a reaction to a firearm based merely on its looks, its associations. At the range where I shoot, some of the local rednecks give me strange looks at the firing line.

There's is a reason that I really like owning an AK clone: it the model that seems to scare the crap out of every would-be gun-grabber.

The political row about America's "soft southern underbelly" - bolstered by fears that terrorists may slip in through it - has led to growing support among Republicans for a radical plan to build a 2,000-mile steel and wire fence along the entire border.

We're trying to control the Iraqi-Syrian border and we can't even control our own.
 
The-Fly said:
actually i have a lot of respect for the AK-47 designer, he built it to defend his country, and there's nothing more admirable then that.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1059879,00.html

Agreed. It's a perfectly acceptable and usable weapon. It takes less maintenance and cleaning than most American firearms for dependable operation, and costs a fraction as much.

What's not to like for us capitalists? Besides, by buying them, we're helping former commie countries learn capitalism.
 
Beethoven said:
Is anyone else bothered by Americans using commie/terrorist guns to defend America??

Get that man an M14 or a Garand!!!!

There's no such thing as a commie/terrorist gun. Firearms do not have political affiliations.
 
There's no such thing as a commie/terrorist gun. Firearms do not have political affiliations.
+1
We mock the gun-grabbers for fearing an object, as if it can harm them on its own, and yet some of us say "no, can't have an AK, it's a commie gun!" as if it can be used to further communism/socialism/marxism/leninism on its own.
 
Is anyone else bothered by Americans using commie/terrorist guns to defend America??

According to the article, Mr. McCaslin is:
regular job is as a wrangler (horseman)

I don't know about Arizona, but in West Texas wrangling isn't the highest-paying job around.

That commie gun is probably what he can afford.

LawDog
 
Beethoven said:
Is anyone else bothered by Americans using commie/terrorist guns to defend America??

Get that man an M14 or a Garand!!!!
+1 for Beethoven


I'm with you Beethoven. I'll say I also respect Kalishnikov, But........
That guy is doing everything the media loves to make us all look bad.
The AK is now and has been our enemies weapon and gang bangers for years, kinda like the jap/nazi flag or helmet of WWII. It represents the bad guys.
There are plenty of affordable American made rifles new or used and he picked that one, bad decision any way you cut it.
 
There are plenty of affordable American made rifles new or used and he picked that one, bad decision any way you cut it.
Excellent decision, any way you cut it. Name an american made rifle, for the same price as an AK, the same reliability, parts availability, ammo cost, capacity, and ease of use?
 
What matters the tool used or where it came from as long as it's used for a good purpose?
Biker
 
Harve Curry said:
+1 for Beethoven


I'm with you Beethoven. I'll say I also respect Kalishnikov, But........
That guy is doing everything the media loves to make us all look bad.
The AK is now and has been our enemies weapon and gang bangers for years, kinda like the jap/nazi flag or helmet of WWII. It represents the bad guys.
There are plenty of affordable American made rifles new or used and he picked that one, bad decision any way you cut it.

That's the media's problem. And frankly their problem has nothing to do with the AK being associated with terrorists or commies. They would have the same problem if he was holding an AR.

Does a Mosin make me look like a member of the Red Army? Does a Mauser make you look like a nazi? No, of course not. The real issue is over "scary looking" rifles.

The only US-made semi comparable to the AK is a Mini-30, and those are hard to find, pretty expensive and have bizarre .308" bores.
 
There are plenty of affordable American made rifles new or used and he picked that one, bad decision any way you cut it.

AK one of the best combat weapons ever produced, give credit where credit
is due no matter who made it.

1911
ak47
Makarov

all works of art..........
 
The AK is no more communist than a well made german beer is related to nazism or a well made japanese computer chip is related to the rape of nanking.

The design of the AK is a combination of a number of existing firearms.

Compare the bolt design to that of the Garand and they look almost exactly the same. Take the magazine out of the AK and look at the bolt from the bottom if you dont beleive me. Cycle the action a few times- see, back at home again.

The overall concept of the gun and the cartridge was nearly a straight copy of the StG44. Again, perhaps not coincidentally, Hugo Schmeisser (arguably tied with Browning as the greatest weapon designer of the 20th century) worked in Russia for several years after the war. His involuntary guest residency coincided with the completion of the AK-47.

The purely russian design changes were to make the gun be absurdly reliable and cheap to manufacture. The russians had fought enough winter wars in dirty conditions to want a gun that wouldnt be dependent on logistical support to continue functioning. Combine all these contributions and you have an awesome gun. None of these factors have the slightest thing to do with communism or socialism. Just great engineers with great ideas.
 
Harve Curry said:
+1 for Beethoven


I'm with you Beethoven. I'll say I also respect Kalishnikov, But........
That guy is doing everything the media loves to make us all look bad.
The AK is now and has been our enemies weapon and gang bangers for years, kinda like the jap/nazi flag or helmet of WWII. It represents the bad guys.
There are plenty of affordable American made rifles new or used and he picked that one, bad decision any way you cut it.

It's a bad decision just because it looks eeeeeeevil?

Maybe he simply doesn't have the resources or time to devote to keeping a more common American weapon going. A AK/clone should be able to pretty much take whatever you hand it, whereas a AR-15 would probably die.

A Garand or M1A would be nice, perhaps, but does he have the money for one? And as someone else has said, the AK magazine does hold more rounds by default...
 
Beethoven said:
Is anyone else bothered by Americans using commie/terrorist guns to defend America??

Nope.

Who cares as long as it works?

Would you be critical if it was your bacon being pulled out of the fire by someone armed with an AK or SKS?

A gun is a just a tool, commie guns happen to be exceptionally reliable tools.
 
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