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Coyote Killing Contest Prompt Howls

By MATTHEW BROWN

BAKER, Mont. (AP) - The barren buttes surrounding this small ranching town will offer scant places for coyotes to hide this weekend as hunters converge for a "calling" contest to see who can shoot the most coyotes.

Part predator control, part economic development ploy, the annual event began five years ago in a bid to pique outside interest in Baker via a $6,000 purse funded by entrance fees, local businesses and the Baker Chamber of Commerce and Agriculture.

While organizers see success in the event's growth, the increasing popularity of such contests is prompting a backlash from animal rights groups and even some hunters, who contend the events trivialize the sport by turning it into a cash-fueled spectacle.

For the coyote, the hunts reflect the lowly place the animal still holds across the American West. Even as a debate rages between state and federal officials over whether its high profile cousin, the gray wolf, should be removed from the endangered species list, the coyote is stuck with the label "varmint", to be killed on sight.

Most states have few if any restrictions on killing the animal, said Stephen Price, president of coyoteclub.org, which connects hunters with ranchers hoping to eliminate the animals from their land.

In Baker, a town of about 1,700 tucked against the North Dakota border, supporters of this weekend's contest say it will deliver a much-needed jolt to the area's economy, drawing some 180 participants from as far away as Chicago and Seattle. They also say fewer coyotes means fewer livestock killings.

"I don't know why God put them on this Earth," said Jerrid Geving, a hunter who organizes the Baker event. "If He put them on this world to give us sport for hunting, maybe. But I'll tell you what, they do a lot of damage to livestock."

Despite widespread support for that sentiment, not everyone agrees contest hunts are the answer.

Randy Tunby, a sheep rancher in nearby Plevna, Mont., has turned down requests from contest participants to hunt on his land. The results of such hunts, he said, are spotty at best.


"I'm not saying it's not a good thing to do; we ourselves call coyotes. But if you have problems with coyotes getting into your livestock, it's going to be haphazard if people coming into the contest get those," Tunby said.

Tunby prefers the services of the U.S. Department of Agriculture's predator control program. According to USDA records, its Wildlife Services division shoots, poisons, traps or otherwise destroys about 80,000 coyotes a year on private and public lands nationwide.

John Shivik, a research biologist with the services' National Wildlife Research Center, said any effort to reduce livestock damage must specifically target those animals causing problems. Contest hunts might miss the worst offenders, he said.

Coyotes caused an estimated $47 million in damage to the cattle industry in 2005, according to the USDA. Sheep losses topped $10 million in 2004.

Groups including the Humane Society of the United States and Predator Defense say neither private hunts nor public agency killings offer a real solution because of the coyote's ability to rapidly reproduce.

"You kill some coyotes and six months later it's as if you didn't kill any at all. What are they accomplishing other than just being barbaric?" asked Brooks Fahy, executive director of Predator Defense.

In Montana, coyotes can be hunted 24 hours a day, 12 months a year, with no limits. That provides out-of-state hunters with ample "trigger time" not available in their home states, said Geving, who already has bagged six coyotes this winter around Baker.

Price and others describe a booming interest in coyote hunting, with an estimated 500 "calling contests" nationwide and more added every year. They get their name because hunters howl and make distress calls to mimic prey, attracting coyotes. Many, Price said, are conducted on the sly - invitation-only events meant to avoid the ire of animal rights groups.

Baker promotes its event with fliers and on the Internet. Even protesters are welcome, said Karol Zachmann, president of the Baker chamber of commerce.

"Actually, that does good for us if they come and meet us and find out we're not all that bad," she said.

To some hunters, turning the challenge of coyote hunting into a contest with large sums of money at stake defies long-standing traditions of the sport. Jim Posewitz, a leading voice in the field of hunters' ethics, says that to purists, the contests violate the basic tenet of "fair chase" - the notion that hunting is a private struggle between predator and prey.

"I don't think hunting is a contest between human beings," said Posewitz, a biologist who spent 32 years with the Montana wildlife agency before founding the Orion Hunters Institute. "We like to think it's a more meaningful relationship that we have with wildlife than simply viewing them as a competition between people."
 
Two differant views on hunting here, one being the pure solitary hunt for game, and the organized elimination of vermin, quite similar to the organized prarie dog shoots. Prarie dogs are cute little buggers, but also incredibly destructive, and very dangerous to livestock.
Coyotes are one of the few animals to spread with the advent of man, and are vermin. Kinda neat vermin, IMHO, but still varmints.
 
I'll hunt almost anything.

But I choose not to hunt or shoot varmints like coyotes or bobcats. That's my choice. If you enjoy it then more power to you. And it is true that they can be destructive to livestock and other game.
 
I have hunted for many years but this so called "hunt" makes me sick . Wildlife management is important but to make this "hunt" a contest for money is obscene . IMO there is no speceis of wildlife that is "useless vermin" wich needs to be exterminated . Every species has a niche to fill in the eco system . I believe there was a time that the Bald Eagle was considered useless vermin before it became the symbol of our country .
 
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Ease up there, Handyman....

Rats are a species of wildlife, as are Mosquitos, Flys, Africanized Bees; to name but a few.

Casting aspersions toward other board members who happen to have a different point of view by likening them to "Vermin" is NOT "The High Road".
 
If I won't eat it, I wont shoot it. Coyotes IMO are very helpful, I used to live in the west and I found them very beneficial...regardless, if its not being eatin, I dont like the idea.
 
Not all that surprising, people are uncomfortable with cute furry animals being shot. You should hear some of the comments I hear from people who saw their neighbor hang a deer up in their yard.
 
Anyone who believes that any speceis of wildlife is useless vermin that should be exterminated is , IMO , useless vermin themselves

Send me your snail mail address, and I'll send you all the ticks, chiggers, rats and mice on my 185 acres.:D
 
There is nothing cute about a coyote. They are usually mangy and stink . I see no probem with killing varmits to control them and getting a cash prize. This is no different and is actually cheaper and makes more sense than animal sensitive persons in towns etc. paying outlandish prices for "progessional shooters" to get rid of varmit or other wildlife that needs to go. Some people just do not like to see non professional everyday people hunting. That is what it boils down to. It is the same mentality that only professional cops payed by the STATE should own firearms. It is just anal people who want to control other people. Simple.
 
I will say this.

I was deer hunting out west a few years ago and I was asked by the rancher on whose land I was hunting NOT to shoot coyotes. There were LOTS of jackrabbits that year and he said that the coyotes were the only way to keep 'em in check. This was on a cattle operation, though. I wonder how a sheep or goat rancher would feel. Something to consider.
Also, I really find the idea of hunting for prizes in a competition a little distasteful. Just my feelings.
 
Coyotes have their place

in Nevada, the rabbits would overcome the ecosystem if the coyotes didn't do their job. I lived north of Reno for many years and worked in developing subdivisions of five acre homesites. We did much trenching for water, sewer, power and phone. One summer we had a Coyote bitch come over to the job with two pups every afternoon to watch the trencher crawl across the desert. Nearly everyone on the job had a rifle in the back window of their pickup, yet nobody ever made a move to shoot the coyotes as they were amusing, well behaved and respectful, leaving every afternoon as we shut down for the day. On the other hand, most of the folks, myself included would shoot feral dogs anytime we encountered them as they are dangerous to livestock as well as coyotes and humans. Domestic large dogs gone wild are the fault of the owners who allow them to roam as some of them go out at night and kill livestock just for fun and come back to home and hearth before sunrise. Many of these killings get blamed on coyotes. I don't say that shooting coyotes is wrong, just that it depends on where they are and how they fit into the general scheme of things.
 
In my book, there are two things that need shooting on sight, an Al Queda terrorist, and a coyote. I have talked to ranchers about the damage they do, and attended seminars by AZ Game & Fish officials about coyote predation on deer, antelope, elk and turkey, and found numerous dead cows that I suspect got killed by coyotes.

The only thing I have against organized contests, is that it leads to cheating. Most of the contests are now geared towards awarding raffle tickets for coyotes checked in, and drawing prizes, instead of just giving the biggest prize to the team who brings in the most coyotes. Most of the scam artists get caught out, there are people that know more about dead coyotes that you can ever dream about. Me and a buddy hunted in a contest near Seligman in AZ about 15 years ago, and we got so lost I will never be able to find this place again if I tried. Miles and miles of open grassland North West of Williams, with the occasional water hole here and there, but man, did we call coyotes. I called 12 on one stand, we killed 3, and killed 6 total that day. We were lucky we found a gate that led us to a tar road, it was way before I owned a GPS. When we checked them in, the AZ Game & Fish official looked at the coyotes and asked us "Where did you shoot this dog? It's 9 years old, it is the oldest coyote I have ever seen!" One of the others was 7 years old. We found the old age home for coyotes.:D
 
I see no harm here as long as the coyots arent being hunt to local extension. I sont know about the population and I didnt read the entire artical (i dont like long articales).

Im sure there are some wildlife guys there tags on things.
 
There is nothing cute about a coyote. They are usually mangy and stink .
Of course you probably have experience with them. If you live in the city you probably don't get much exposure to them and you think of people killing this for a contest.
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While I would generally not go out of my way to kill coyotes, if the opportunity presents itself,,,

Actually, I would go out of the way to kill a coyote if it is getting brave and hanging out anywhere near my small livestock.

BTW, just from experience, a coyote can and will kill a downed cow, it will also go after an orphaned or newborn calf.
 
I shoot Varmints to gain access to farmland I could not otherwise hunt. Mostly Coyotes, but I would shoot p'dawgs if a rancher would then let me hunt his land. This is a function of the Coyotes interfering with the farmers dairy herds and calving pens. I don't shoot them on public land yet, as I have not seen them harrassing a deer, if I do I will shoot. There is a fine line between shooting for killings sake and shooting for purpose, I try my best to be ethical about culling a population of wild life.
There is a purpose, for all things, as there is a time, for all things under heaven.

I disagree with the agrandizment of this particular event, it messes up the ehtics I previously mentioned. I'm not a big fan of a nearby Gopher count either. Once a year a town in So. MN has a thing where they pay you to shoot all the gophers you can. It also somehow messes with the ethics again.
Just rambling here don't mind me.
 
Killing them doesn't make sense, since the population will recover anyway? Can someone tell that nimrod that NOT killing them will make the population explode and create a bigger problem?

Besides, it's not like these bunny huggers will fork over $47 million of their money to the cattle folks so the latter can recoup their losses. They need to put their money where their mouth is IMO and quit their invasion of small towns to impose their Bugs Bunny fantasies on the locals.

I don't hunt. I just have issues with "enlightened" folks who feel that everyone should think like they do.
 
I don't like the idea of the hunts, because I like dogs too much and coyotes are canines.

but... I would kill one if it was in my yard, because I have two little dogs. On two occasions, I've went outside to find my two ankle biters barking at the edge of our backyard and the field behind it. Both times a large coyote was standing at the edge of the yard, about 3 feet away, just smelling them and looking very curious.

The first time, I had my shotgun, but it ran as soon as I opened the door. I didn't have my shotgun with me the last time, just a Mag-Lite. I yelled and it ran off.

It easily could have killed both of them either time. Now I put them in a pin at night, just to be safe.
 
One summer we had a Coyote bitch come over to the job with two pups every afternoon to watch the trencher crawl across the desert. Nearly everyone on the job had a rifle in the back window of their pickup, yet nobody ever made a move to shoot the coyotes as they were amusing, well behaved and respectful, leaving every afternoon as we shut down for the day.

A Yote that is not afraid of humans in populated subdivisions is the first Yote I would hunt for.

KILL THE YOTE'S
Save the Bunny's, Save the Turkey, Save the Pheasants, Save Bambi That way they can all grow up and multiply so I can kill them!
 
Populated subdivisions??? I don't know how much you are familair with the desert north and east of Reno Nevada, but a subdivion there is a few thousand acres with probably less than two hundred humans. The rabbits, kangaroo rats, mice, and other assorted small critters would spread disease and destruction without the coyotes. Or do you prefer to spray the area with poisons?
 
I porpbably would not kill a coyote if I had a chance, probably because they look too much like dogs. However, I would never interfere with anyone's right to shoot the critters.
 
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One summer we had a Coyote bitch come over to the job with two pups every afternoon to watch the trencher crawl across the desert. Nearly everyone on the job had a rifle in the back window of their pickup, yet nobody ever made a move to shoot the coyotes as they were amusing, well behaved and respectful, leaving every afternoon as we shut down for the day.

A Yote that is not afraid of humans in populated subdivisions is the first Yote I would hunt for.

Populated subdivisions??? I don't know how much you are familair with the desert north and east of Reno Nevada, but a subdivion there is a few thousand acres with probably less than two hundred humans.

I'm sorry let me write that statement different.

A Yote that is not afraid of humans in "NON-POPULATED" subdivisions is the first Yote I would hunt for.
 
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