Coyote Killing Contest Prompt Howls

[George Hill]

I don't really like hunting them either. But I'm getting $30.00 per pair of ears up in Dagget County. I've got a dozen ears I'm turning in tomorrow.
If I find a pup, I don't think I'd kill it. I'd feed it and name it Cha-ching.

 

[spacejunkiehsv]

Getting paid for ears!!!!!! It's cool that you can get paid for sort-of a hobby though.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

If I find a pup, I don't think I'd kill it. I'd feed it and name it Cha-ching.

Get two, a male and a female, and name them Compound and Interest.

 

[1911Tuner]

Yotes

While I don't hunt any more, and never did hunt purely for sport...and don't cotton to killing just for the sake of killing...and while Coyotes are intelligent,
interesting, highly adaptable, often entertaining...from a distance...and even have an odd etheric beauty in thier own way...they are destructive and can become a real menace if allowed to proliferate unchecked in populated areas. They need to be thinned out. Not only to keep their numbers at a reasonable, manageable level...but to instill in the critters a deep fear of all things human so they'll know to keep their distance so that Coyote and people both win.

I like Coyotes and other wild predators...but I do NOT want'em in my back yard. If I want to go Yote watchin', I'd much prefer to have to hike in deep in order to spot a pack than wake up to a pair on my doorstep.

 

[spooney]

I grew up in Baker, spent 16 years of my life there before I moved away. It is still home to me...anyone who suggests that the people in that town many of whom are my flesh and blood are vermin and need to be wiped off the earth, can stick it where the sun don't shine.

The coyote calling contest brings a lot of people from out of town into Baker and it helps the town, these people who come from out of town stay a couple days, eat at Saks, Thee Garage or the Corner and stay in the hotels. Small communities like this are the backbone of our society and anything that can be done to help them develop economically is a good thing.

Coyote's are a pest. They are coming back in droves and something needs to be done to control them. This contest serves many purposes and greatly helps Baker.


P.S. Go Spartans

 

[STW]

Eat American lamb; 4 million coyotes can't be wrong.

 

[gunsmith]

We are Coyote's only predator left

The main predator( in the wild ) of Coyote is Wolf, I don't think Mt Lions or Bear hunt Coyote.

The Coyotes that almost caused me to crash my motorcycle in San Francisco

Smelled really bad, a combination of Skunk, garbage and death and they were big and well fed.

Coyotes in suburbia are more interested in garbage and dog food left out side then rats.

Even if the small town in question hunted down every last Coyote in their whole State, there would be more in a week or two.

Coyote have adapted to the urban environment and we are it's only predator...

I used to think they were cute too, until I followed one in San Francisco a few blocks ...they stink of death, I felt a primordial urge to shoot it....

I love dogs, they really are cute and are companions to humans, Coyotes are the enemy of dogs and children...I've been all over Northern NV , everyone I have met (Burningman hippies excepted) will shoot one given half a chance.

 

[MikePGS]

For me, I feel too much of a kinship with the things to want to shoot them. But to each his own. Just don't be shocked if one of them plays a trick on you

 

[.38 Special]

I get a little bent out of shape over certain kinds of varmint shooting. IMO, hunting/killing should be limited to

1) Animals you're going to eat

2) Animals that are trying to hurt you

3) Animals that cause property damage, including damage to crops, livestock and/or pets

It's the last that's a bit contentious for me. Because gophers, for instance, can damage a pasture and result in cows with broken legs, some folks rationalize that they are doing some kind of good by driving to a field a hundred miles from nowhere and wiping out the local ground hog population. This, to me, is simple killing for killing's sake and is not exactly a noble undertaking. Helping out a rancher -- and enjoying yourself in the process -- by spending an afternoon in a hayfield with a varmint gun is one thing. Taking a thousand rounds to a prairie in Nowhere, North Dakota and painting the town red for the sheer "joy" of killing is quite another, IMO. YMMV, I guess.

 

[Beagle-zebub]

My sister lives and works in Providence, RI, and she says that she has seen coyotes in the parking lots during the day.

 

[RCouch]

Lived Southwest of San Marcos, Texas until 2 yrs. ago. Was in an addition with 5 acre lots about 2 miles from town. We could hear coyotes at night all the time but in about 2001 coyotes started coming through in 2's and 3's. There were a number of small children that couldn't play out anymore due to fear of the coyotes and small animals went missing. There were a few of them killed (I got one myself during broad daylight). I consider them a real pest and they play havock all over the Texas Hill Country.
I've shot a few racoons that were real pest also. Don't see anything wrong with killing pest as long as they're not human.

 

[1911Tuner]

Stinkin' Yotes

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>they stink of death, I felt a primordial urge to shoot it.<
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There's a reason for that. Coyotes, wolves, foxes, and dogs wallow in stinky things...sometimes the remnants of their latest scavenged carrion...in order to mask their natural scent. Ever noticed your dog rolling around on its back, woofin' and growlin' and generally acting strange? Ever wondered why dogs will roll around in a rotting compost pile or even worse things? Scent masking. It's a throwback to the feral side of their nature. Wolf behavior. The pack will do it before the hunt to prevent early detection.

 

[hoji]

"I don't know why God put them on this Earth," said Jerrid Geving, a hunter who organizes the Baker event. "If He put them on this world to give us sport for hunting, maybe. But I'll tell you what, they do a lot of damage to livestock."



Moron.:banghead:

I have no problem destroying coyotes that encroach, I have no problem with this contest. I do however have a problem with the fact that the halfwit that made the above statement has a vote that counts as much as mine

 

[mainmech48]

I'm mostly with Tuner on this. I don't get to hunt nearly so much as I formerly did, as the cumulative effects of my injuries from a motorcycle crash+the wear and tear of the thirty-odd years of industrial work since+advancing arthritis make getting around in the field problematic.

I guess that even when it was a major passion, my interest was mostly pragmatic in that recreation had little to do with it. Either I wanted/needed to eat it, or it was eating something I do. In my family, we were taught that only a brute kills for amusement.

I have to admit that I have a good deal of trouble understanding the 'Disney-esque' anthropomorphism a lot of folks apply to selected wild animals, especially when it comes to the coyote. I wonder at times if many of the 'Noble Predator' set have ever actually observed what a pack of coyotes leaves in its wake when it goes after a flock of sheep at lambing time, or domestic poultry anytime. I have, and they do not limit their kill to what they need to survive. They will kill everything that they can wrestle down and leave the vast majority of it where it fell.

I also wonder how long the dog lovers' tolerance would hold true after they'd seen coyotes run their pet to exhaustion in relays, then kill it-just for the 'sport' of it.

While I have some problems with the way these folks have chosen to go about it, I can sympathize with the underlying motivations. When I was a kid back in Missouri the $15/pair bounty on coyote ears was a pretty effective incentive, and bought most of my school clothes in more than one year. The fact that many of the neighbors welcomed me to hunt food beasties on their land in exchange for doing so was another.

 

[beaucoup ammo]

I had one of the greatest weekends of my life 30 years ago. Two friends and myself had the ok from the owner of a 30,000 acre cattle ranch in South Texas. Not the biggest..but not the smallest spread either!:O)

We arrived late in the morning, checked in at the foreman's house and headed out. After we pitched, ate and loaded up it was dark..we put our miner's lights on and spread out with 12 gauge Remingtons.

It was cool with a dense fog. I'd never experienced anything quite like this hunt. I was new to it but got the knack after a while. Lights out, listening to Burnham Brothers call, switching on the head light and slowly lowering your head til all you see are the eyes! Dang..it was great.

Next day one of my friends put a mangy, sick coyote down as he leaned on a fence post with an open sight 30-06 at 300 yards.

Also hunted hogs. Nothing as exciting as hearing one coming down the path with brush so thick jumping to the side is out of the question. Bum leg..I couldn't run..so It was a thrill! Dumb? Maybe..but I wouldn't trade it for anything.

 

[BigO01]

Well I'm no Biologist but I would say the ranchers got what they deserved when the poisoned all of the large predators like the wolf to the point of extinction .

I would bet that the Wolf helped keep the coyote population in check and a healthy wolf for the most part would hunt animals like deer or elk for food rather than sheep or newborn calves .

Coyotes are much smaller "harder to find" and more adaptable than the wolves , thats why their population explosion led them to populated areas .

I doubt we would have seen wolves in suburbia as we do coyotes if they had just stuck to killing the problem wolves rather than exterminating them with poisons .

People just didn't and still don't understand that nature will make it's own "adjustments" to the animal population if you wipe out one another "perhaps more destructive in the long run" will take it's place .

How many people have been killed in car/deer crashes over the years ? Do you think that an equal number would have been killed by wolves if they still existed all over the Nation as they did when white men came here ? Wolves and even Cougars would have kept the deer population in check and for the most part left humans alone as long as some sort of hunting of them was allowed to sustain their fear of humans .

We have seen both extremes and neither is good , kill all the wolves and the coyotes become a problem , stop killing Cougars " as California has" and they become a problem rather than remaining a solitude animal afraid of people they now have seen them enough to consider them game as a child is far easier to catch then a deer .

I'm no tree hugging fool but killing isn't always the answer at least not when it becomes wholesale slaughter of a species and quite frankly predation is part of the game if you want to make a living raising livestock . Deal with it and kill only the problem animals not an entire species just so it doesn't bother you .

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

Big001

you might not be a biologist but you could fool me! you decribed the situation pretty darn accurately.

i shoot the coyotes and some coydogs that try to eat my chickens but mostly i use a lab husky mix and a hound mix. the husky hunts the yotes. is pretty good at it. strangly enough the jusky is not chicken safe herself. she won't go out of her way to get one but when one gets too close she can't fight her hunting instinct unless i weatch her close and verbally admonish her.
i also have to accpt responsiblity for keeping "minnie mouse" confined. if she gets into someone elses livestock i know shes fair game.just like the coyotes.people used to call me a liar about the yotes here until a few got hit and positively identified by animal control. and we have darn few turkey left due to em

 

[TallPine]

Taking a thousand rounds to a prairie in Nowhere, North Dakota and painting the town red for the sheer "joy" of killing is quite another, IMO.

So you think there are no ranchers and livestock to protect in "Nowhere" ????

 

[.38 Special]

Didn't read the whole post, didja? Or maybe you're just looking for someone to fight with...

If you read and understand the whole thing, friend, then I'll debate it with you, but I'm not interested in playing games with strawmen.

 

[SoCalShooter]

No biggie to me honestly if they are being overrun by the little buggers then they need to be thinned out. .300 weatherby works very well on coyotes.

 

[Jeff F]

Out here where I live in Silver Springs Nv the coyotes like to eat small dogs and they love to eat cats. I'll blast any I find hanging around my property.

 

[1911Tuner]

Yotes

Jeff wrote:

>Out here where I live in Silver Springs Nv the coyotes like to eat small dogs and they love to eat cats. I'll blast any I find hanging around my property.<
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Have heard reports...don't know if it's based on fact and observation...that females in estrus will slip into an area inhabited by dogs and "Spread the Word" for all to hear in order to lure male dogs across the line of departure...where the pack will rip'em apart and have'em for dinner.

Given that the critters are highly intelligent, I can believe it.

Like to watch'em way out in the boonies...but I ferdamsure don't want'em within a mile of the home place.

 

[Colonel Plink]

'round here, ya don't have to justify killing coyotes or prairie dogs.

I've killed untold numbers of prairie dogs. And never made a dent in their population.

Coyotes are targets of opportunity for me. But friends of mine who call them in have told me that nothing blurs the lines between predator and prey like callin' dogs.

I see it as sport. I guess I'll never make a good Buddhist.

c'est la friggin' vie.

 

[gunsmith]

1911 Tuner

Thanks! I have wondered why the various dogs that have been my companion
did that...find something gross and smelly and roll around in it...

I do not feel bad for yotes at all, but last spring was really wet & produced a bumper crop of everything and I ran over a Kit Fox, it was really cute and I felt terrible.

After that I no longer drive 90 to 110 mph when alone in the desert...

 

[Delta608]

"Raised by coyotes on the windswept plains of Northeast Colorado, I only recently started using dining untensils. But I've been posting on Gunbroker for years. "


Sorta biting the hand that feeds ya, eh Colonel....!!