Residents are howling at the sight of coyotes

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gee whiz! would you like some cheese with that whine?!
wiley coyote really doesn't need to be a super genius to deal
with these wussified unarmed losers!

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-coyote23jan23,0,3464167.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Residents are howling at the sight of coyotes
The predators may be seeking water and food in a residential area near Hancock Park.
By Bob Pool, Times Staff Writer
January 23, 2007

One homeowner thought two wolves were slinking with their tails between their legs across his frontyard in the darkness. Another thought someone's unleashed pet collies were trotting briskly down her street's sidewalk in broad daylight.

Residents of a neighborhood between Hancock Park and the Fairfax district had never seen coyotes before.

They've seen them now — and an invasion of the wily predators has set the residential area in the middle of one of the busiest parts of Los Angeles on edge.

More than 30 coyote sightings have been made in recent weeks in the flatlands bordered by Gardner Street, La Brea Avenue, 3rd Street and Melrose Avenue. Children and pets are being kept indoors. Adults have taken to carefully looking before stepping out of their homes.

Authorities offer assurances that attacks on humans are rare. Still, the coyotes have caused concern in the neighborhood.

"We see them on street corners and in our driveways," said resident Jeanne Litvin. "On Friday, a man at Alta Vista [Boulevard] and 1st Street had to sit in his car and wait for them to leave before he could get out."

Rabbi Abraham Halberstam was startled when he stepped out of his house at 5:30 a.m. and into the path of a pair of coyotes running across his lawn.

"He thought he was dreaming. He knew they weren't dogs," said his wife, Malkie.

A few days later she spied two coyotes sitting on a lawn on Martel Avenue. "I followed them when they got up. They ran down 1st Street," she said.

The coyote that lawyer Mel Teitelbaum saw standing on the sidewalk near his home didn't look all that wily. "It looked lost. It looked like it didn't know what to do," he said.

Residents speculate the coyotes are coming from Runyon Canyon Park, about a mile and a half north of their homes, or the Wilshire Country Club, about three-quarters of a mile east. They say their own hasty research into the animals suggests that the dry weather might be forcing them from the hills.

Nearby West Hollywood, in fact, issued a December warning to its residents of increased sighting of the coyotes looking for water and food there and in Beverly Hills.

A wild member of the dog family, known scientifically as Canis latrans (or "barking dog") because of its yips and high-pitched howls, the coyote can provoke fear.

Jittery homeowners have called 911, as well as City Councilman Jack Weiss's office, to report the animals. Emergency operators and council aides forwarded the callers to the city Animal Services Department. But homeowners learned that there is nothing the city will do about coyotes.

Since 1994 city animal control officers have not trapped coyotes roaming residential neighborhoods unless the creatures are injured or distressed or are attacking pets. Trapping permits are not issued to private citizens.

Coyotes trapped by officers are euthanized because state law prohibits their release elsewhere, said Officer Gregory Randall, the city's wildlife specialist. Residents can call licensed pest control companies to trap troublesome coyotes, but those animals also will be killed, Randall said.

Although pets occasionally disappear in the area adjacent to Hancock Park, residents said they were unaware of any being killed by coyotes. But city officials speculated that may be happening.

"We get calls from all over about cats and small dogs disappearing," said Capt. Wendell Bowers, city Animal Services' wildlife program coordinator. "Coyotes are everywhere — Wilshire, San Pedro. They used to be nocturnal. Now they're out all the time."

The city experiences an average of two coyote attacks on humans a year, but no such attacks have been reported for about three years, Bowers said.

Small children are most at risk. Three years ago police in Simi Valley shot and killed a coyote after it attacked three children playing on a street and then tried to drag a 3 1/2 -year-old boy off his front porch. The animal had grabbed the 34-pound boy by the neck and fled only when the youngster's mother screamed and scared it away.

A fatal 1981 attack on a 3-year-old Glendale girl is the only documented case of a coyote killing a human in the Los Angeles area. Following Kelly Keen's death, county wildlife officers trapped and killed 55 coyotes within half a mile of her home.

Bowers said residents should make coyotes feel unwelcome.

"We don't want coyotes hanging around," he said. "They should be running when they see us. They should be yelled at or have something thrown at them. They should be scared of us."

Litvin said homeowners in her neighborhood are spreading the word to be alert and to keep garbage cans closed, trees free of low-hanging fruit and pets indoors.

Howard Winkler said he searched for photographs of coyotes on the Internet after getting calls from friends who have seen them. Last week he saw his first ones in person.

"I was driving west on Beverly Boulevard. It was already dark and there they were, running north to south. They certainly weren't stray dogs," said Winkler, a member of the county Commission on Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs who lives in Hancock Park.

From his car, he called county animal control officers to report his find. But by then the
 
"On Friday, a man at Alta Vista [Boulevard] and 1st Street had to sit in his car and wait for them to leave before he could get out."


wow. just.... wow. the hell kind of 'yotes yall got over there? they must be blood thirsty
 
"On Friday, a man at Alta Vista [Boulevard] and 1st Street had to sit in his car and wait for them to leave before he could get out."
wow. just.... wow. the hell kind of 'yotes yall got over there? they must be blood thirsty

I don't see that as a comment on the fierceness of the coyotes as much as I do the meekness of the humans.
 
...because of its yips and high-pitched howls, the coyote can provoke fear.

Jittery homeowners have called 911
As a person who worked on a desert wildlife refuge for 8 years,
who delighted at hearing the "yips and high-pitched howls" of the trickster dogs,
I find myself disgusted by the ignorance of city dwellers.

What ever happened to people who know how to live in nature?
Oh, yeah: city life. :barf:

I'm with Cosmo:
bring back the browns to CA.

I'm thinking about ID or AK.

Go bears.
 
I grew up around coyotes in Eastern Washington. Here in Portland they come through our neighborhood once in a while. Yeah, they'll take the occasional cat or small dog. In the country you have to watch out or they'll get a chicken or lamb once in a while. But mostly what they eat is mice, rats and voles which is a Good Thing(tm). So as long as they don't bother me I won't bother them.
 
This is the type of people in CA that are responsible for supporting anti gun initiatives in CA. These are the valley people outside LA with lots of funds, and where the people in charge of Hollywood live. Notice the total lack of self reliance, the scared, please save me government attitude at the slightest risk of any percieved danger however slight, and the paralysis between percieved threat, calling for help, and then continuing on with thier day.
Shooting them? Ha not in CA, the law will skin you alive in CA if you shoot them and are not in immediate danger or fear for your life. If you are in danger, and you go inside to get a gun, you have escaped the danger, returning to shoot the animal would not be legal.

Personaly I enjoy coyotes and find thier howling right outside at night to be enjoyable, even if it means I cannot own a cat here. The slightly eery wild howl brings good thoughts and is peaceful background noice to think to.

Ha ha! I love this stuff. Now if we can only bring the brownies back to California
Likely that would only backfire in CA, especialy around Hollywood and Beverly Hills. Then scared residents would want officer escorts, 3x more police and multiple new laws and tools for police and a brand new multi million dollar agency to provide task forces for responding to bear calls. Paid for by Mr and Mrs taxpayer.
The very last effect would be to make them a little more self reliant.
Just remember this is the same location where the people who decide much of the media and what is shown on TV and in movies live. Rest assured Hollywood is very anti gun, even the people that are making the action flicks with tons of guns in them.
They live in gated communities, with community guards, with personal bodyguards, and think guns are as evil and violent as portrayed in the movies they make. That thier so dangerous in fact that while they are glad they are protected by multiple people, that are professional enough to have them it is unfortunate mere normal civilians have them. If 'poor' people didn't have them things would be safer, and less armed bodyguards would be needed. Of course until that can happen increased police and tougher gun laws can suffice.

Residents speculate the coyotes are coming from Runyon Canyon Park, about a mile and a half north of their homes, or the Wilshire Country Club
OMG the menaces are coming from the Country Club!
"On Friday, a man at Alta Vista [Boulevard] and 1st Street had to sit in his car and wait for them to leave before he could get out."
You sure it was a man? Perhaps they are short on rocks or his car horn didn't work? I bet he will feel like a real tough guy when he learns how to scare off a 30 pound animal with a yell or loud voice. Then he will be rescuing damsels in distress.
 
As a general rule, if you see coyotes in the middle of the day, they are starving or sick. Neither of which is acceptable.
 
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>As a general rule, if you see coyotes in the middle of the day, they are starving or sick. Neither of which is acceptable.<
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Bingo...and usually sick. As in the initial stages of hydrophobia.
If you see any nocturnal animal in the daylight...especially if it approaches you...unafraid and curious, or even friendly...Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Coyotes are fun to watch in their domain...but not good in the 'hood.
No way/no how. Like wolves...if you see one...there are 20 that you don't see...and they have an agenda. The lone Coyote is either a scout, who will report back to the pack on viable food sources, or a female in estrus sent to lure domesticated male dogs into an ambush.

Like all large predators, they have their role, and I like to see'em flourish, as long as they don't set up housekeeping across the road.
 
>As a general rule, if you see coyotes in the middle of the day, they are starving or sick. Neither of which is acceptable.<

I used to see them in the middle of the day all the time, through my rifle scope coming to my dying rabbit call, and then I whacked them. Nothing like being hunted by a hungry coyote, with the occasional bobcat, mountain lion and bear thrown in for good measure. :D
 
I see them all the time, day and night, out here in our desert. Not usually up close, I still see them.

In my Army days, when I was stuck in a REMF unit and one of the many trips through NTC I "enjoyed" we had a big (easily 6 foot) gal from the inner portions of NYC, Pvt Watkins IIRC, anyway, we were on a shower run and I came out of the latrine to find Pvt Watkins hand feeding a yote a ham slice out of an MRE. She made the comment about how pretty the "dog" was. The yote sure didn't look sick to me, just so exposed to non-violent humans that they lost thier fear.

Funny (and somwhat ironic) thing, later that same field problem, we heard Pvt Watkins come yelling, more like screeching the we had RATS THE SIZE OF DOGS in our perimiter. I truned to see her running one direction and big fat JACK RABBIT going the other. hehehehe, that still makes me laugh.
 
As a general rule, if you see coyotes in the middle of the day, they are starving or sick. Neither of which is acceptable.

I'm not sure that applies anymore in the Northeast. We have coyotes wandering around during the day all the time. Coyotes and deer have discovered that the suburbs are the greatest feeding grounds on the planet.
 
"On Friday, a man at Alta Vista [Boulevard] and 1st Street had to sit in his car and wait for them to leave before he could get out."

Sorry I was late, boss. I had to wait for a pack of coyotes to leave before I could get out of the car. Something needs to be done. I'm going to call our congresswoman about these illegal dogs...
 
When we lived for a while in a very rural area in NW Florida, we had what appeared to be a breeding pair of coyotes that would occasionally wander through. Always heard them, but never saw them, until once I got busy and let the grass get pretty tall, and then they felt comfortable coming near the trailer. We enjoyed seeing and hearing them, and took some photos (I have a slide of a coyote, I think the female of the pair, standing next to our front steps). Just as a precaution, I did obtain a Florida hunting license (only one I've ever gotten) just in case they lost their fear of us and became a threat. They were never a problem, though.

I can't believe the guy who sat scared in his car until they left. I guess he didn't think of the horn?
 
Coyotes?

Please. They're not wolves. They're nowhere near the size of wolves. If these people really think coyotes are some kind of threat to their well being I'd love to see how they'd handle someplace like Alaska, where there actually is a chance of running into an animal that's higher than you on the food chain.

I've never had a problem coyotes even when I lived in the sticks, except for the fact that they'd go after my poultry. Which is fine. They're predators. That's what chicken wire is for.

The cool thing was the coyote howling that would start at night. It really gave you an impression of how many of them there were. Pretty awesome. I miss them sometimes.
 
All I want to know is who do I talk to about getting a job killing these Coyote's.

I might take up bow hunting again..

Firearms in the city would be risky, but a bow and arrow doesn't make a sound..

Maybe I could get some millionaire to let me sit on his roof and shoot them for $200 each. I could probably make $2000 a week...

In Pennsylvania, the deer and rabbits and grouse have all taken a beating from the coyote's and bobcats. The PGC said they didn't bring them here. But one or two of them had ear tags that said Wyoming and had a telephone number on the bottom. The PGC traded some wild turkeys for coyote's a few years back and you know the rest of the story.
 
Adults have taken to carefully looking before stepping out of their homes.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

We don't want coyotes hanging around," he said. "They should be running when they see us. They should be yelled at or have something thrown at them. They should be scared of us."

HAHAHAHAHHAHA!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

This is really timely for me, we just had a pack run by last night in the wee am hours. My dog really goes nuts over them and they yip howl and sing. No one seems to care too much, everyones dogs keeps them at bay, chickens locked up, donkeys whoop a** on coyotes if they get in the pen. I don't suppose many in that article have donkeys.....probably a lot of asses though.
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There is something in all those asphalt and concrete fumes that rots the brain. All our city members take precautions please. I think a liberal application of Hoppes daily would probably counter the effects.
 
Funny, isn't it?

Here we have a guy scared to get out of his car. The sight of relatively harmless (not rabid) wild animals just terrifies him.
I'm not a coyote hunter, but if one started acting like he owned my place, my natural reaction is to reach for a gun. Hell, if you can't shoot him with a rifle, shotgun, or pistol, get a Benjamin or Sheridan air rifle.
A .22 cal pellet under a coyote's hide should discourage him from coming around your place, not to mention putting the fear of humans in his head.
 
You know, as crazy as I am. I made a promise to myself to never partake in effete lunacy.
Uh oh. Coyotes. Where's my shotgun?
 
There's an alternative to being terrified or killing a passing coyote. If it isn't causing problems by attacking livestock or denning under your house, then leave it alone. It's not going to attack you unless you do something monumentally stupid.

And no, they're not completely nocturnal. Like most predators they are crepuscular - most active around dawn and dusk - but they have plenty of legitimate business during the day, especially if there are cubs to feed. Business like hunting for mice or patrolling their territory.
 
They walk down our street at night and sometimes you can hear them howl. My wife saw the neighbor's dog tangle with one.

They mostly stay away during the day. Once they did stroll down the street just before the kids came out for school but but as the area developed they ceased that.

We have more excitement when the damn scorpions come into the house to visit. Yuk.
 
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