Hammerxc
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What Grizz22 said.
Crappy glock trigger pull?
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1911 guy
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Yeah, they suck, but...
Does the trigger bother you enough to discout the other things that are attracting you to Glocks? Only you can know the answer to that. If you absolutely can't deal with it, shop around for other pistols with the features of a Glock with different triggers. If the other options available through a Glock are Muy Bueno to you and you can live with the trigger, embrace the suck and get one.
Does the trigger bother you enough to discout the other things that are attracting you to Glocks? Only you can know the answer to that. If you absolutely can't deal with it, shop around for other pistols with the features of a Glock with different triggers. If the other options available through a Glock are Muy Bueno to you and you can live with the trigger, embrace the suck and get one.
Patrick Henry
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connector vs. trigger spring
I just got a Glock and I think I would prefer a heavier trigger pull than it has, mainly for safety. 8 lbs. sounds good. Does changing the connector affect this or the trigger spring, or both?
I just got a Glock and I think I would prefer a heavier trigger pull than it has, mainly for safety. 8 lbs. sounds good. Does changing the connector affect this or the trigger spring, or both?
BsChoy
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I was warry about putting a 3.5 in my off duty 19 but with one range session it was natural and not too light. Also shoots much better. Groups were very good.
dogloose
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Suck is in the eye (or mind) of the beholder! Even where many might agree that Glock triggers suck (many do)... it still doesn't suck if you like it. You will always find folks on both sides of this debate.
I shoot a Glock and have mastered the trigger. I especially like the quick reset for follow-up shots. Like with any other weapon... dry firing and range practice will gradually improve your skills and confidence. Wouldn't matter if it were a double action revolver or another semi-auto... it's all in your hands.
I shoot a Glock and have mastered the trigger. I especially like the quick reset for follow-up shots. Like with any other weapon... dry firing and range practice will gradually improve your skills and confidence. Wouldn't matter if it were a double action revolver or another semi-auto... it's all in your hands.
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The law enforcement Glocks are shipped with the 5.5 pound trigger. Unless your friend is NYPD, he probably does not have the heavier trigger.
To each their own, but for me the 5.5 pound Glock trigger is great. I may be a bit off but I actually do not care for really light trigger pulls like the 1911 or the single action pull on most revolvers.
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Black Snowman
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After a little de-burring both of my Glocks have fabulous triggers that are smooth and don't stack (get heavier as you pull). The very short trigger reset lets you shoot them very quickly and accurately. I do as well with my Glocks as my true single action guns.
CountGlockula
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Two words: TRIGGER RESET.
You'll know what I mean.
You'll know what I mean.
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Of the thirty or so guns that I have the Glock has by far the worst trigger. I have spent considerable effort and funds to correct it, with some improvement, but it is still the crappiest. The problem is not the weight or stacking, it is the irreparable creep. Does this keep me from easily grouping minute of bad guy at fifteen yards? No. Does it keep me from grouping six inches at twenty-five yards? Yes. It stinks. Some people like it. Some people like Twinkies and chocolate milk for dinner 365 days a year. More power to them.
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Of the thirty or so guns that I have the Glock has by far the worst trigger. I have spent considerable effort and funds to correct it, with some improvement, but it is still the crappiest. The problem is not the weight or stacking, it is the irreparable creep. Does this keep me from easily grouping minute of bad guy at fifteen yards? No. Does it keep me from grouping six inches at twenty-five yards? Yes. It stinks. Some people like it. Some people like Twinkies and chocolate milk for dinner 365 days a year. More power to them.
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Desertscout
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If you can't shoot less than 6" at 25 yards, it sure as hell isn't the trigger's fault. ANY Glock should shoot less than 3" at 25 yards if the shooter does his part.
I have 2.75# triggers on 3 of my Glocks and a hair less than 4 on the rest of them.
Here's a group I shot at 100 yards a month or so with G 23. The 6th shot is the one that opened it up to 9.875":
Here are 2 5-shot groups shot at 7 yards from a standing position. The top one can be covered with a dime.
I have 2.75# triggers on 3 of my Glocks and a hair less than 4 on the rest of them.
Here's a group I shot at 100 yards a month or so with G 23. The 6th shot is the one that opened it up to 9.875":
Here are 2 5-shot groups shot at 7 yards from a standing position. The top one can be covered with a dime.
3.5# trigger
I switched out my factory 5lb trigger for the 3.5lb. no need to do anything else. It now feels more like my 1911 and shoots tighter groups.
Went to Glockworld: it was only 14.95. I also got a Storm Lake barrel. You don't need a spring just the 3.5# connector. easy to install.
http://www.glockworld.com/triggers.htm
I switched out my factory 5lb trigger for the 3.5lb. no need to do anything else. It now feels more like my 1911 and shoots tighter groups.
Went to Glockworld: it was only 14.95. I also got a Storm Lake barrel. You don't need a spring just the 3.5# connector. easy to install.
http://www.glockworld.com/triggers.htm
I put a glock 3.5# connector in all of my glocks, polish them till they double as mirrors, and then treat them with militec. My triggers break at about 4lbs, and are smooth. I can shoot fairly well with the stock triggersbut shoot a lot better with the 4lb range (maybe because my 1911 triggers break there too?).
Some people do well with the stack on the glocks, I found it detrimental to my shooting. A little polish on the contact points and the stack goes away.
The two best shooters I've seen in person shoot glocks. One of the sherrif's dept trainers likes to piss off the new guys. Someone will invariably say their sights are off, or their gun is junk, the trainer likes to shoot a free hand 50 yard group in the head of a B27 target. Then tell them to dry fire more and complain less.
Some people do well with the stack on the glocks, I found it detrimental to my shooting. A little polish on the contact points and the stack goes away.
The two best shooters I've seen in person shoot glocks. One of the sherrif's dept trainers likes to piss off the new guys. Someone will invariably say their sights are off, or their gun is junk, the trainer likes to shoot a free hand 50 yard group in the head of a B27 target. Then tell them to dry fire more and complain less.
glocktoberfest
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How true :
All my hand guns have different trigger pull / weight / feel / grip angle ( non Glocks) I adjust to what I'm shooting . It's not really that difficult after the first 4 or 5 rounds . Glocks are all pretty much all the same . Is that really a bad thing ? Shoot what ya like and don't shoot what ya don't like . Pretty simple .
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The great majority of pistols in good condition will group 3" at 25 yards if the "shooter does his part". However, I concluded long ago that shooting a pistol from a bench rest is completely irrelevant to practical accuracy. If you routinely shoot 3" groups offhand at 25 yards then you really ought to run down to Camp Perry and show those good ole boys how it is done. Be sure to show us all the medals you win.
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The great majority of pistols in good condition will group 3" at 25 yards if the "shooter does his part". However, I concluded long ago that shooting a pistol from a bench rest is completely irrelevant to practical accuracy. If you routinely shoot 3" groups offhand at 25 yards then you really ought to run down to Camp Perry and show those good ole boys how it is done. Be sure to show us all the medals you win.
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Desertscout
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Disregarding your smart remark, I'll address the original issue. I said any Glock ought to shoot within 3" at 25 yards. I didn't say any shooter. OF COURSE I'M TALKING ABOUT OFF THE BENCH! The whole issue here was what the gun could do. If we all had Ransom Rests, we would all know exactly what the gun was capable of and set our goals accordingly. I get so sick of guys that can't shoot talking about "practical accuracy" or "combat accuracy" when someone asks what kind of group they should be able to shoot. Remember that your very best day out on the street will likely be about half as good as your worst day on the range. It pays to know exactly what your gun is capable of.
And one more thing. Yes, I can routinely shoot 3" groups at 25 yards and that is not nearly as good as some of the guys at Camp Perry do.
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I'm not sure what this has to do with Glock triggers, but OK, the next time I need to shoot bad guys in the head at 100 yards I'll be sure to bring along a bench rest. Not very practical, but at least I'll know that I'm getting the best out of my pistol.
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I'm not sure what this has to do with Glock triggers, but OK, the next time I need to shoot bad guys in the head at 100 yards I'll be sure to bring along a bench rest. Not very practical, but at least I'll know that I'm getting the best out of my pistol.
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CountGlockula
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What's so great about Glocks: you don't like the trigger pulll? Change it.
Glocks are the most versitle pistol out there.
Glocks are the most versitle pistol out there.
Gotta agree with Desertscout: 3" groups at 25 yds. isn't too hard. My buddies and I had a friendly competition once--placed 3" orange stickers on our targets and rolled them back to 25 yds (max distance at that indoor range). I got all ten shots in the sticker, offhand. If I can do it, it's not Camp Perry stuff. 
Oh, and like the Count says, the Glock trigger can be upgraded, and you don't have to leave it at the shop for weeks, either. You can buy drop-in trigger kits from www.triggerkit.com or www.pistolgear.com, and they'll drop the trigger down to something like a relatively crisp 2.5# pull. Pretty nice. I've got the former in my USPSA G17.
Oh, and like the Count says, the Glock trigger can be upgraded, and you don't have to leave it at the shop for weeks, either. You can buy drop-in trigger kits from www.triggerkit.com or www.pistolgear.com, and they'll drop the trigger down to something like a relatively crisp 2.5# pull. Pretty nice. I've got the former in my USPSA G17.
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I'm not sure what this has to do with Glock triggers, but more power to you regarding accuracy.
Actually, the drop in trigger kit I used, IIRC, was from triggerkit.com. It did reduce the pull weight to 4 pounds, measured with an RCBS gauge. I would not, however, use the term "crisp" to describe the trigger pull. Maybe I'm spoiled, but it is still very creepy. And it did increase the ability of the pistol to fire out of battery. I think that has to do with the firing pin safety plunger.
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I'm not sure what this has to do with Glock triggers, but more power to you regarding accuracy.
Actually, the drop in trigger kit I used, IIRC, was from triggerkit.com. It did reduce the pull weight to 4 pounds, measured with an RCBS gauge. I would not, however, use the term "crisp" to describe the trigger pull. Maybe I'm spoiled, but it is still very creepy. And it did increase the ability of the pistol to fire out of battery. I think that has to do with the firing pin safety plunger.
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Outlaw Man
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I'm not a Glock fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I have to admit the G34 I shot with the 3.5lb trigger was pretty nice - much better tahn the heavier triggers on other Glocks I've tried. Easily as accurate as I am capable of.
Wow, doesn't sound like the trigger kit I got at all. Although not 1911 crisp, it is relatively crisp, especially compared to the spongy OEM trigger pull. Good enough to where if you miss, it's you, not the gun. Mine breaks under 3#, and I've never had any kind of failure whatsoever (and I run it pretty hard). Maybe you need to contact whomever you purchased your trigger kit from and report your problems?
Anyways, the point being, you claim your Glock trigger hinders you from shooting anything less than 6" groups at 25 yds. I'm saying I can shoot 3" groups at 25 yds. with my Glock.
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