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Crem De La Crem M4gery

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Dimis, Aug 29, 2009.

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  1. Dimis

    Dimis Member

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    If you could assemble a group of parts to make your ultimate m4 type rifle what would make the list?

    im looking at either buying a complete colt 6920 then adding things that i want (mainly accessories) or putting something together from scratch either way i go im gonna spend a good chunk of money on this one and id like to only do it once

    so if you were in my possition what would you do?


    oh one last thing if you choose to assemble a gun with parts keep it to only parts of the rifle not all the accessories rails and virt grips are fine but optics lasers lights all that kind of stuff is way down the line for me thanks in advance guys
     
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  2. lipadj46

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    If you want the closest you can get to the real deal definitely start with a Colt. Magpul UBR stocks are cool. Are you going the SBR route?
     
  3. Dimis

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    no for legality ill end up with a 16 inch barrel i cross state lines alot for ranges and that would be a hastle informing the ATF every time i go shoot lol

    the one thing that bugs me is i wanted to eventualy supress the rifle but recently found out thats a no no in delaware :-(
     
  4. PTK

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    Honestly, I'd buy a complete LMT AR, if I had the money. Best of the best of the best. :)
     
  5. waterhouse

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    Do you care about things like barrel profile and gas system/hand guard length or do you just want a premium 16" barreled gun with a collapsible stock?

    If the former, I'd go with Colt or LMT. If the latter, I'd get (and did get) a Noveske Recce Basic mid-length upper and put it on a lower made with quality parts and a stock of your choice.
     
  6. mp5a3

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    BCM BCM BCM all the way, he makes complete lowers now, and has always made exeptional uppers and bolts.
     
  7. Dimis

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    Well heres what im looking for basicly

    High quality lower with all the highest quality parts inside
    good trigger possably twostage not too light but deffinatly a good break
    high quality gas impingment upper with again best parts i can use A3 style flat top with detachable handle and rear sight
    M4 profile 1:7 chrome lined 16 inch barrel
    M4 leanth (7 inch i believe correct me if im wrong) quad rail that free floats the barrel
    F Marked front sight
    A2 flash hider is fine
    A2 grip is fine
    6 Possition or better buttstock
    chambered in 5.56Nato
    with the exception of the quad rail i believe the colt has everything im looking for out of the box ill look into LMT and Noveske tho
     
  8. Texpatriate

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    +1

    BCM lower ($350), BCM 16" Carbine upper ($475) (or Mid length, my personal preference), and BCM bolt carrier group ($160) and slap it all together. Or just buy a complete BCM rifle from G&R Tactical.

    The BCM M4 Carbine is pretty much an exact copy of the Colt 6920. Same exact mil-spec features for less money. Check the chart: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pwswheghNQsEuEhjFwPrgTA&single=true&gid=5&output=html. It was just updated last week to add BCM, and it is wedged in between the Colt 6920 and the Noveske N4 Light Carbine. I own 3 BCM uppers and 2 BCM lowers, and I couldn't be more satisfied.

    Or you could also go with a Daniel Defense XV. Pretty much the same thing, just not "official" on the chart yet. Other quality options include Noveske (for a whole lot more money), LMT, Charles Daley, and Sabre Defense.
     
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    I don't like the smallness of the A2 grip. The ERGOgrip or Magpul works for me.

    ymmv.
     
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    Start with the 6920. It may not outshine every other AR in every other category, but it's certainly the standard against which others are compared. Add a geiselle trigger, a Daniel Defense free float rail, and your stock of choice (tons of options there). Call it a day.
     
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    A complete BCM for $1150. Can't get any better than that.
     
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    Not only that, it doesn't have that BS "LE/Government only" crap on the side.
     
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    LMT
    Noveske
    Magpul
    Daniel Defense

    Any and all of the above listed would be on my list!
     
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    LMT,Noveske, the Bravo company stuff is real good.
     
  17. Texpatriate

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    Just to clarify, BCM is Bravo Company, just like LMT is Lewis Machine & Tool, and more cryptically, CMT is Stag.
     
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    See how light of a LaRue Tactical rifle I could obtain.
     
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    Does Colt still use non-standard sized take down pins and lowers?
     
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    Absolutely unlimited budget: Noveske

    Large budget but under 2k: BCM with their hammer-forged barrels (fairly new option)
    Daniel Defense with the rail system
    Colt 6920 or 6940
    in that order

    Smaller budget: Charles Daly M4LE, probably the most bang for the buck of any AR out there. I've seen them just under $1000 and feature-wise they compare well to nearly anything. It isn't for the time being a prestige/ultra-tacticool brand, but it should be comparable for 99.99% of use, including carbine classes, most LE use, etc.

    Colt uses standard pins on the LE carbines, though not on civilian-marketed rifles, I believe.
     
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    Colt 6920/6940, Daniel Defense M4 or XV, or a BCM would be my top suggestions. Slightly lower down the list a bit would be LMT and S&W.
     
  22. vanfunk

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    Colt has used standard size (.250") takedown pins on all of their rifles and carbines for at least ten years.

    I cast my vote for the Colt 6920. It is the "gold standard", but it is made to be used. I'd be too worried about scratching up my boutique rifle (Noveske, POF, etc.) to use it hard. :)

    vanfunk
     
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  23. Dimis

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    vanfunk i think you nailed it because this rifle will get used heavily

    just like every other firearm i own i will put it through its paces and then some i shoot at least twice a week and plan on taking a few courses through a local dealer who can offer alot of training so the rifle will have to be tough and not so expencive im afraid to take it from its case to play out in the dirty world
     
  24. kwelz

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    I agree, If you are to afraid to get a gun scratched up you should not be shooting :)
     
  25. waterhouse

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    I don't believe they were referring to the take down pins, but instead to the fire control group pins (the ones that hold the trigger and hammer in place). At one point Colt used a different size pin, but recently I believe they switched to the standard size pins.
     
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