Crimp Swaging Die or Bench Mount Primer Pocket Swager

[Couillon]

I have thousands of .223/5.56 and 9mm brass. 60% of the .223/5.56 and some of the 9MM, have military primer crimps.

I'm looking for a recommendation, on a device to remove the crimps. I have a lyman case prep express and have tried both, a Lyman and an RCBS, crimp cutting tool, on the station.

De-crimping, is the most difficult operation on the work station. I think that i am getting arthritis, as my thumb is very sore. I am considering buying the RCBS swaging die for my press, or, the RCBS primer pocket benchtop swaging tool.

I would appreciate you all sharing your recommendations and/or experience.

Thank you!

 

[jmorris]

How many thoudsands?

I bought my first 1050 because of crimped .223. I size/deprime and trim on one pass, then load on the 2nd. The 4 digit Dillon presses have built in swaging systems on station #3, they swage and do all the other stuff as fast as the powder can drop into the case.

KISS fed 1050

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Adds zero time as its a concurrent vs additional operation. Now just count how many seconds other methods take and multiply that by how many cases you have and is that time worth the money to you?

 

[peels]

I am considering buying the RCBS swaging die for my press, or, the RCBS primer pocket benchtop swaging tool.

I would recommend the Lee ram swage kit over the RCBS die kit. I have both and much prefer the Lee. No experience with bench mounted solutions.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I use the Hornady LNL AP Primer Pocket Swage Tool for my .223/5.56mm and it is pretty much effortless, but it does require a bit of dexterity to insert and remove the cases as they are being processed...plus you have to have a Hornady LNL AP press

For 9mm, I'm loading on the Mark 7 Apex-10. Like @jmorris and his 1050, swaging is automatically performed as part of the reloading process

As a stand along and cost conscious alternative, I'd recommend the Lee APP with it's case feeder and pass-through shell holders . You can use it first to deprime and then switch a couple of parts to swage the primer pockets. A much less costly alternative than the Dillon bench mount unit and you don't have to handle each case to feed them

 

[Varminterror]

On a shoestring, I'd buy a Lee APP with the swage kit. The Dillon 1050 is better. I've helped a few guys set up range brass up-cycling businesses with autodrives on 1050's, I personally have a Dillon case feeder above a Lee APP to do the job for my volume.

I'd sell it for recycled brass and use the proceeds to buy far less new or already processed brass before I'd swage 1 at a time for thousands of pieces of 5.56 brass ever again.

 

[Kaldor]

If youre insistent on doing it with swaging? Dillon Super Swage is probably the easiest single tool.
Lee APP as @Varminterror is also an option, but really doesnt gain you a ton of speed until you add a case feeder.
I still cut mine with a RCBS cutter, with a jig on my drill press, and its fast, but does beat your hands up a bit as I still hold the case slightly as the cutter comes into the jig.

Once you get your brass all processed though, you will learn to keep your brass that youve processed segregated from anything else. Brass catchers are your friend!

 

[thump_rrr]

Dillon Super Swage has my vote.
I don't own a 1050 or 1100 but I have friends that do.
They recommend sorting by headstamp due to variations in web thickness between various brnds of brass.
Maybe others here who own them can chime in.

 

[jmorris]

The Dillon 1050 is better. I've helped a few guys set up range brass up-cycling businesses with autodrives on 1050's

You can make them really move, just processing.

Rotary 1050

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[Soonerpesek]

Dillon Super Swage has my vote.
I don't own a 1050 or 1100 but I have friends that do.
They recommend sorting by headstamp due to variations in web thickness between various brnds of brass.
Maybe others here who own them can chime in.

Agreed........................
And....................a lot of folks forget that it only has to be done once, the crimp doesn't grow back....
MOST of the hobbyist handloaders don't need something extravagant to get this job done................

 

[rg1]

I have the RCBS swaging die set plus their bench mounted swager.. The bench swager works well but I still prefer the swage die. I size and deprime on one press and swage on another press. Take the sized case and move it to the swaging press. Fast and the case is complete. My method with the swage die is to adjust the Rockchucker press handle barely past horizontal when the punch contacts the primer pocket. Raise the handle and “pop” the punch into the pocket. A slight crimp is easy but you can feel a tight heavy crimp and I pop the handle down a second time. Been using this method since the 80’s and many thousands of once fired military cases. The bench model works and the Dillion Super Swage gets top reviews.

 

[bfalcon00]

The Dillon 1050 or similar is really the only answer. That being said I still have yet to acquire one.

I use the Dillon super swage and it works pretty fast once you get in the swing of things. Next best option to the above as far as I can tell.

 

[SNfoilhat]

I would recommend the Lee ram swage kit over the RCBS die kit. I have both and much prefer the Lee. No experience with bench mounted solutions.

I too use the Lee ram swage kit on my classic cast single stage press. Very simple.

 

[Big Wes]

`I have a Dillon Super Swager and set it up so that it ejects the shell into a bin, using a rubber band. Look up/search
Dillon Super Swage speed trick - You Tube

 

[thump_rrr]

`I have a Dillon Super Swager and set it up so that it ejects the shell into a bin, using a rubber band. Look up/search
Dillon Super Swage speed trick - You Tube

I do the same.

 

[dartem]

As do I...

 

[zeke]

I do the same.

i will now