Bartholomew Roberts
Member
Please take the off-topic stuff to another thread and leave this one for updates on what is happening in the Senate.
Critical: Feinstein/AWB on Senate Calendar!
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they are now considering which "other bills" they should NOW Today consider since they have shot down the marriage amendment, setting it aside, and now have time for "other things".
Remember Wrangell and DIFEI got to bring up the AWB yesterday, so it's "in the hopper" somewhere.
Stay tuned!
-Andy
they are now considering which "other bills" they should NOW Today consider since they have shot down the marriage amendment, setting it aside, and now have time for "other things".
Remember Wrangell and DIFEI got to bring up the AWB yesterday, so it's "in the hopper" somewhere.
Stay tuned!
-Andy
TooTaxed
Member
Folks, whether this ban temporarily ends here...or not?...it won't go away. We'll be fighting it in the next session of Congress.
We must strive to elect as many pro-gun congressmen this year as possible...and defeat as many anti-gun congressmen as possible. To that end I've donated funds to the California Republican Party earmarked to defeat Barbara Boxer. If Schumar comes up for reelection in New York, I'll certainly do the same there. And, dont foget the NRA's ILA! I'm also talking with those friends of mine who are anti or undecided about gun rights.
Nice to work with you folks!
We must strive to elect as many pro-gun congressmen this year as possible...and defeat as many anti-gun congressmen as possible. To that end I've donated funds to the California Republican Party earmarked to defeat Barbara Boxer. If Schumar comes up for reelection in New York, I'll certainly do the same there. And, dont foget the NRA's ILA! I'm also talking with those friends of mine who are anti or undecided about gun rights.
Nice to work with you folks!
alan
Member
I cannot verify it, one way or the other, but I've heard some rumors to the following effect.
That Republican leadership might be willing to make a swap. Extend the AW ban, which I believe would be a very bad move on their part, in exchange for passage of the law to bar idiot suits against gun makers, distributors and dealers. If Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist had done his job, the poison pills that served to kill the anti suit legislation would never have gotten to the floor, or even have been voted on. Alas, he failed dismally.
By the bye, even if the AW ban does sunset, as per schedule, there are still problems. In the August issue of American Rifleman, page 91, you will find references to some of the "problems".
Aside from those mentioned, there are the following, and these are simply things that pop into mental view.
1. GCA '68
2. The Machinegun ban of 1986
3. The National Firearms Act of 1934
4. Any number of Executive Orders, from past presidents. Clinton and Bush the First come to mind..
That Republican leadership might be willing to make a swap. Extend the AW ban, which I believe would be a very bad move on their part, in exchange for passage of the law to bar idiot suits against gun makers, distributors and dealers. If Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist had done his job, the poison pills that served to kill the anti suit legislation would never have gotten to the floor, or even have been voted on. Alas, he failed dismally.
By the bye, even if the AW ban does sunset, as per schedule, there are still problems. In the August issue of American Rifleman, page 91, you will find references to some of the "problems".
Aside from those mentioned, there are the following, and these are simply things that pop into mental view.
1. GCA '68
2. The Machinegun ban of 1986
3. The National Firearms Act of 1934
4. Any number of Executive Orders, from past presidents. Clinton and Bush the First come to mind..
TooTaxed
Member
This is worth posting here... The single best site listing the voting record of ALL Senators and Representatives on 21 anti-gun bills is:
www.bradycampaign.org/facts/scorecard
Use this to call candidates on their campaign statements! (By the way, Kerry voted the Brady position on all 21, earning a 100% rating from them!)
www.bradycampaign.org/facts/scorecard
Use this to call candidates on their campaign statements! (By the way, Kerry voted the Brady position on all 21, earning a 100% rating from them!)
GOA Alert - Anti's Trying to Rescue the Semi-Auto Ban from Death Row
http://www.gunowners.org/a072204.htm
www.gunowners.org
Jul 2004
Anti's Trying to Rescue the Semi-Auto Ban from Death Row
Gun Owners of America
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102
Springfield, VA 22151
(703)321-8585
Friday, July 23, 2004
Thanks to your efforts, the Clinton semi-auto ban is about to expire.
The ban on magazines and firearms -- passed in 1994 -- represents one of the most hated pieces of gun control ever enacted. But with less than two months to go (and Congress being in recess most of that time), the ban is scheduled to sunset on September 13, 2004.
Anti-gun Senator Dianne Feinstein, however, is not giving up and is pushing hard to get the semi-auto ban tacked on to some other bill.
So far, you have been instrumental in bolstering the resolve of a few key Senators, who have managed to thwart Feinstein's every move and, thus, keep the semi-auto ban from getting to the President's desk. Consider what you have accomplished in recent months:
* In March, you encouraged Senators to kill a bipartisan bill that had become loaded down with anti-gun amendments -- riders which included the semi-auto gun ban. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist could have used parliamentary tactics to disallow all gun-related amendments, but he specifically rejected that strategy. The underlying legislation, which would have helped to protect gun makers from frivolous lawsuits, fell under the weight of your activism against the anti-gun riders.
* Most recently in July, your efforts resulted in Senator Frist using the very parliamentary tactics that he had rejected only a few months earlier. This time, grassroots pressure convinced him to block the semi-auto ban as an amendment to the class action bill (S. 2062).
Now, there are less than a dozen legislative days left. And the gun banners are "pulling out all the stops" to get this bill passed.
The focus of their ire is being directed at Senator Frist, since he was instrumental in keeping anti-gun amendments from being offered to S. 2062. One anti-gun website is calling on its readers to "flood Dr. Frist's office with tens of thousands of e-mails telling him to stop blocking the Assault Weapons Ban renewal."
They are also calling on fellow gun banners to pound House Speaker Dennis Hastert's office with calls to renew the ban.
So here's the bottom line: We are winning. The clock is ticking and the Clinton ban will soon die. But the battle is not over yet! The other side is playing its ultimate trump card -- the friendly liberal media -- and is reaching deep into its war chest.
Major newspapers are running anti-gun editorials in favor of renewing the ban. Former Presidents are lobbying Congress with the same message. Law-enforcement bureaucrats are issuing sound bites in cities all across the nation.
And Hollywood types such as Dustin Hoffman, Robert Redford and Barbra Streisand have written a letter to the President, urging him to extend the ban for 10 more years.
There is an all-out effort by the other side right now, and we need to make sure that we are NOT silent. We need to keep the pressure on.
Like the Phoenix, the gun ban renewal could arise out of the ashes at any time. After all, both presidential candidates SUPPORT the ban. Both Kerry and Bush have indicated they want to see the ban renewed.
And even though Majority Leader Tom DeLay has thus far managed to keep this bill off the floor of the House of Representatives, he is being threatened by a politically motivated prosecutor in Austin. His tenure remains in question for the time being, which means that we, gun owners, must remain eternally vigilant!
ACTION: Please urge your Representative to OPPOSE the renewal of the semi-auto ban. Remind him or her that this is an election year and that strident calls from the Brady Bunch in the liberal media do not decide elections! Here’s what you can do:
1. Use the pre-written message below and send it as an e-mail by visiting the GOA Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm (where phone and fax numbers are also available).
2. Remember also that since all members of the House are up for reelection -- and Congress is due to take a long summer break -- chances are excellent that you can confront your Rep. in person during the coming weeks. Don't miss an opportunity to do so.
----- Pre-written letter -----
Dear Representative,
I have noticed an alarming and well-coordinated campaign within the mainstream media recently regarding the expected sunset of the semi-auto ban. It is imperative that you not fall victim to the scare tactics -- that instead, you do the right thing and make certain that the semi-auto ban dies its well-deserved death.
Anti-gun forces are trotting out law enforcement bureaucrats, former public officials, Hollywood stars, and anyone else they can find to decry the Bush administration's "lack of action" in calling for Congress to immediately reauthorize this odious gun ban.
Truth be told, those gun grabbers are scared -- they know the American people have thrown out numerous U.S. Representatives in the past for voting to outlaw these common semi-autos. With a mere handful of legislative days remaining before the ban sunsets, they are doing the only thing they can -- working feverishly with their friends in the liberal media, hoping that press coverage alone will spook you into getting aboard the gun-ban train.
I urge you to stand fast. The sky has not fallen, and it will not fall on September 14th. No matter how loud the disarmament crowd and their lackeys in the press scream, these simple weapons have never been the choice of criminals and never will be.
The ban should sunset, and no pro-gun Member of Congress should fear for his or her seat as a result, since media hype does not translate to defeat at the polls. If the media decided elections, Ronald Reagan would never have been President.
Hold the line. Better, remind your pro-gun constituents that you are publicly willing to state that this useless and pernicious law simply needs to go away.
Sincerely and with a watchful eye,
****************************
Help Defend the Second Amendment Every Time You Place a Long Distance Call
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http://www.gunowners.org/a072204.htm
www.gunowners.org
Jul 2004
Anti's Trying to Rescue the Semi-Auto Ban from Death Row
Gun Owners of America
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102
Springfield, VA 22151
(703)321-8585
Friday, July 23, 2004
Thanks to your efforts, the Clinton semi-auto ban is about to expire.
The ban on magazines and firearms -- passed in 1994 -- represents one of the most hated pieces of gun control ever enacted. But with less than two months to go (and Congress being in recess most of that time), the ban is scheduled to sunset on September 13, 2004.
Anti-gun Senator Dianne Feinstein, however, is not giving up and is pushing hard to get the semi-auto ban tacked on to some other bill.
So far, you have been instrumental in bolstering the resolve of a few key Senators, who have managed to thwart Feinstein's every move and, thus, keep the semi-auto ban from getting to the President's desk. Consider what you have accomplished in recent months:
* In March, you encouraged Senators to kill a bipartisan bill that had become loaded down with anti-gun amendments -- riders which included the semi-auto gun ban. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist could have used parliamentary tactics to disallow all gun-related amendments, but he specifically rejected that strategy. The underlying legislation, which would have helped to protect gun makers from frivolous lawsuits, fell under the weight of your activism against the anti-gun riders.
* Most recently in July, your efforts resulted in Senator Frist using the very parliamentary tactics that he had rejected only a few months earlier. This time, grassroots pressure convinced him to block the semi-auto ban as an amendment to the class action bill (S. 2062).
Now, there are less than a dozen legislative days left. And the gun banners are "pulling out all the stops" to get this bill passed.
The focus of their ire is being directed at Senator Frist, since he was instrumental in keeping anti-gun amendments from being offered to S. 2062. One anti-gun website is calling on its readers to "flood Dr. Frist's office with tens of thousands of e-mails telling him to stop blocking the Assault Weapons Ban renewal."
They are also calling on fellow gun banners to pound House Speaker Dennis Hastert's office with calls to renew the ban.
So here's the bottom line: We are winning. The clock is ticking and the Clinton ban will soon die. But the battle is not over yet! The other side is playing its ultimate trump card -- the friendly liberal media -- and is reaching deep into its war chest.
Major newspapers are running anti-gun editorials in favor of renewing the ban. Former Presidents are lobbying Congress with the same message. Law-enforcement bureaucrats are issuing sound bites in cities all across the nation.
And Hollywood types such as Dustin Hoffman, Robert Redford and Barbra Streisand have written a letter to the President, urging him to extend the ban for 10 more years.
There is an all-out effort by the other side right now, and we need to make sure that we are NOT silent. We need to keep the pressure on.
Like the Phoenix, the gun ban renewal could arise out of the ashes at any time. After all, both presidential candidates SUPPORT the ban. Both Kerry and Bush have indicated they want to see the ban renewed.
And even though Majority Leader Tom DeLay has thus far managed to keep this bill off the floor of the House of Representatives, he is being threatened by a politically motivated prosecutor in Austin. His tenure remains in question for the time being, which means that we, gun owners, must remain eternally vigilant!
ACTION: Please urge your Representative to OPPOSE the renewal of the semi-auto ban. Remind him or her that this is an election year and that strident calls from the Brady Bunch in the liberal media do not decide elections! Here’s what you can do:
1. Use the pre-written message below and send it as an e-mail by visiting the GOA Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm (where phone and fax numbers are also available).
2. Remember also that since all members of the House are up for reelection -- and Congress is due to take a long summer break -- chances are excellent that you can confront your Rep. in person during the coming weeks. Don't miss an opportunity to do so.
----- Pre-written letter -----
Dear Representative,
I have noticed an alarming and well-coordinated campaign within the mainstream media recently regarding the expected sunset of the semi-auto ban. It is imperative that you not fall victim to the scare tactics -- that instead, you do the right thing and make certain that the semi-auto ban dies its well-deserved death.
Anti-gun forces are trotting out law enforcement bureaucrats, former public officials, Hollywood stars, and anyone else they can find to decry the Bush administration's "lack of action" in calling for Congress to immediately reauthorize this odious gun ban.
Truth be told, those gun grabbers are scared -- they know the American people have thrown out numerous U.S. Representatives in the past for voting to outlaw these common semi-autos. With a mere handful of legislative days remaining before the ban sunsets, they are doing the only thing they can -- working feverishly with their friends in the liberal media, hoping that press coverage alone will spook you into getting aboard the gun-ban train.
I urge you to stand fast. The sky has not fallen, and it will not fall on September 14th. No matter how loud the disarmament crowd and their lackeys in the press scream, these simple weapons have never been the choice of criminals and never will be.
The ban should sunset, and no pro-gun Member of Congress should fear for his or her seat as a result, since media hype does not translate to defeat at the polls. If the media decided elections, Ronald Reagan would never have been President.
Hold the line. Better, remind your pro-gun constituents that you are publicly willing to state that this useless and pernicious law simply needs to go away.
Sincerely and with a watchful eye,
****************************
Help Defend the Second Amendment Every Time You Place a Long Distance Call
Gun Owners of America is in Washington fighting for the Bill of Rights and your Second Amendment freedoms every day.
And you can help GOA every day as well -- or at least as often as you make a long distance phone call.
GOA has partnered with LifeLine -- a conservative, pro-gun long distance provider that gives 10% of your monthly long distance bill to GOA.
LifeLine is NOT affiliated with any anti-gun telephone companies such as MCI, Sprint or AT&T -- all companies which support anti-gun candidates.
LifeLine's newest 2.9 cent Savings Plan offers you the lowest long-distance rate available that directly supports the organization of your choice. For only $4.95 per month, you can get up to 500 minutes of long-distance at one of the lowest rates available today.
And for as little as $49.95 per month, LifeLine Unlimited gives you the freedom to call virtually anyone in the USA, at any time, without ever watching the clock! Plus, get local phone service and all of your favorite calling features; all on one bill, and all for one low price per month.
You can help yourself and help GOA by using LifeLine. Call their toll free number and find out which plan will work best for you. That number is 1-800-800-7550. Or, go to http://www.lifeline.net/index_goa.cfm to sign up via the web.
Please note: Those of you who were previously supporting GOA through Promise Vision phone service should be aware that the company which bought them out, UAT, is NOT honoring the previous commitment of donating a portion of your phone bill to GOA. UAT customers, please consider switching to LifeLine by calling 1-800-800-7550.
alan
Member
TooTaxed:
Good link, thank you for posting/digging it up.
All:
Re death of the Assault Weapons Ban, much to be hoped for, it's "death" is just the beginning. I suggest that those who have access to American Rifleman, look at the August issue, page 91, which among other things makes mention of other legislation that still exists, for instance the Unsoeld Amendment.
In addition to this, there are, so far as I can remember off-hand, the following, which need to be gotten rid of.
1. The National Firearms Act of 1934.
2. The Gun Control Act of 1968, which was an amendment to the 1934 Act.
3. The 1986 Machinegun Ban.
Good link, thank you for posting/digging it up.
All:
Re death of the Assault Weapons Ban, much to be hoped for, it's "death" is just the beginning. I suggest that those who have access to American Rifleman, look at the August issue, page 91, which among other things makes mention of other legislation that still exists, for instance the Unsoeld Amendment.
In addition to this, there are, so far as I can remember off-hand, the following, which need to be gotten rid of.
1. The National Firearms Act of 1934.
2. The Gun Control Act of 1968, which was an amendment to the 1934 Act.
3. The 1986 Machinegun Ban.
Hypnogator
Member
Amen!
TooTaxed
Member
The AWB is Feinstein's "cause celebre". I still fully expect her to tack an extension as a rider on some unrelated bill that many congressmen will want to pass...perhaps a budget bill.
I'll celebrate when the AWB is truly expired for this session...until then I'm watching with bated breath...
I'll celebrate when the AWB is truly expired for this session...until then I'm watching with bated breath...
alan
Member
Quote from TooTaxed:
The AWB is Feinstein's "cause celebre". I still fully expect her to tack an extension as a rider on some unrelated bill that many congressmen will want to pass...perhaps a budget bill.
I'll celebrate when the AWB is truly expired for this session...until then I'm watching with bated breath...
__________________
Absolutely. We all need to keep the pressure on those "congress critters". There is no finessing of this issue, no "business as usual", no last minute or back room deals, no gentlemenly arrangements, The Assault Weapons Ban Must Die.
The AWB is Feinstein's "cause celebre". I still fully expect her to tack an extension as a rider on some unrelated bill that many congressmen will want to pass...perhaps a budget bill.
I'll celebrate when the AWB is truly expired for this session...until then I'm watching with bated breath...
__________________
Absolutely. We all need to keep the pressure on those "congress critters". There is no finessing of this issue, no "business as usual", no last minute or back room deals, no gentlemenly arrangements, The Assault Weapons Ban Must Die.
AWB: Just another "stay awake" call...
Much attention is now on the Dem convention and in those things that might be done re the 911 committee findings. The senate work is about to wind up. So...
Let us not lose our attention to the possible opportunity available for DiFei to slip something through while we're not looking.
-Andy
Much attention is now on the Dem convention and in those things that might be done re the 911 committee findings. The senate work is about to wind up. So...
Let us not lose our attention to the possible opportunity available for DiFei to slip something through while we're not looking.
-Andy
Leatherneck
Member
It probably is a good time to contact your Senators and Reps to remind them that we're watching closely...
TC
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TC
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Ben Shepherd
Member
The 1-800 number to the whitehouse switchboard is on my fridge, right under the now imfamous picture of the fabulous 4. Called today(7/27), and sent out yet another batch of letters.
DO NOT let you gaurd down on this one folks. Our good buddy Bill Clinton mentioned it in his speech to the democratic conventioners last night, so it is fresh on thier minds.
DO NOT let you gaurd down on this one folks. Our good buddy Bill Clinton mentioned it in his speech to the democratic conventioners last night, so it is fresh on thier minds.
FREE RIFLEMAN
Member
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In addition to this, there are, so far as I can remember off-hand, the following, which need to be gotten rid of.
1. The National Firearms Act of 1934.
2. The Gun Control Act of 1968, which was an amendment to the 1934 Act.
3. The 1986 Machinegun Ban.
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This what I call an excellent start!
Oh, hi! This is my first post... I heard of the site while on FAL Files, stopped by and liked it so much, I joined! (It was the "Molon Labe!" that did it!)
Yes, I've written, I'm ignored like the rest of you.
In between letters, I reload. I suggest everyone here do the same.
If all we do is worry and hinder the Anti-Freedom Bigots, we are doing a great service to freedom without even squeezing a trigger. A side benefit is that it is fun to annoy liberals... Of course, that doesn't mean we don't have our "full capacity" magazines loaded. Happy Hunting!
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In addition to this, there are, so far as I can remember off-hand, the following, which need to be gotten rid of.
1. The National Firearms Act of 1934.
2. The Gun Control Act of 1968, which was an amendment to the 1934 Act.
3. The 1986 Machinegun Ban.
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This what I call an excellent start!
Oh, hi! This is my first post... I heard of the site while on FAL Files, stopped by and liked it so much, I joined! (It was the "Molon Labe!" that did it!)
Yes, I've written, I'm ignored like the rest of you.
In between letters, I reload. I suggest everyone here do the same.
If all we do is worry and hinder the Anti-Freedom Bigots, we are doing a great service to freedom without even squeezing a trigger. A side benefit is that it is fun to annoy liberals... Of course, that doesn't mean we don't have our "full capacity" magazines loaded. Happy Hunting!
Apache
Member
Heard the demos, touting this
Bama candidate- "a champion of gun cotrol!"
Someone should tell them that with friends like BAMA, they need no enemies!
They're going to now and forever lose the gun owners' vote!
Bama candidate- "a champion of gun cotrol!"
Someone should tell them that with friends like BAMA, they need no enemies!
They're going to now and forever lose the gun owners' vote!
Interesting...
Let's see - isn't toting an UZI in WashDC illegal... (immoral, and fattening)?
Did she pay her $200 and get her ticket?
Isn't mere possession (as in NOT the owner/ticket-ee) illegal?
If loaned to her for the occasion, isn't the loan-or at risk?
Isn't "holding and UZI outside the U. S. Capitol", somewhat akin to brandishing - and can it not be construed as a threat to those inside?
If you or I had done this, where would we be today, I wonder?
Hmmm....
Let's see - isn't toting an UZI in WashDC illegal... (immoral, and fattening)?
Did she pay her $200 and get her ticket?
Isn't mere possession (as in NOT the owner/ticket-ee) illegal?
If loaned to her for the occasion, isn't the loan-or at risk?
Isn't "holding and UZI outside the U. S. Capitol", somewhat akin to brandishing - and can it not be construed as a threat to those inside?
If you or I had done this, where would we be today, I wonder?
Hmmm....
jimpeel
Member
Yeah. For the SECOND TIME!
I love the way they attempt to make it seem like he was rushed when he reloaded the first time and they could have spared lives if he hadn't had that extra five rounds.
FACT: Her husband and son were among the first to be shot and would have been shot even if he had had a ten round magazine.
FACT: The other passengers stopped him using the only arms they are allowed to bear in NYC -- the ones attached to their shoulders.
FACT: The shooter bought the firearm in CA at B&B Guns. B&B had a corporate policy of adding one day to the waiting period so he waited sixteen days instead of the normal state mandated fifteen days.
FACT: He purchased the firearm fully seven months before he went on his rampage.
FACT: The shooter was a racist who bypassed Blacks for White and Asian targets.
FACT: If Carolyn McCarthy's husband and son had been Black, they would be alive today.
FACT: Colin Furguson was never charged with a hate crime.
alan
Member
jimpeeland anyone else interested:
Re McCarthy on Assault Weapons:
Her husband and son were shot with an ordinary handgun, illegally in New York. No Assault Weapons, real or so-called, were involved.
Other than a terrible campaign put on by the Republican opponent, likely the only thing she had gong for her was the sympathy vote, and the idiocy of the electorate.
I wonder as to how long a time will pass before Mr. Ferguson is declared "cured" and is released?
Last, but not least, just like with the airplane hijackings of 9/11, if any of the LAW ABIDING CITIZENS who were passengers on that train had been armed, quite possibly the only person shot might have been Ferguson. Given that such was not the case, we are left to speculate on a number of things.
Re McCarthy on Assault Weapons:
Her husband and son were shot with an ordinary handgun, illegally in New York. No Assault Weapons, real or so-called, were involved.
Other than a terrible campaign put on by the Republican opponent, likely the only thing she had gong for her was the sympathy vote, and the idiocy of the electorate.
I wonder as to how long a time will pass before Mr. Ferguson is declared "cured" and is released?
Last, but not least, just like with the airplane hijackings of 9/11, if any of the LAW ABIDING CITIZENS who were passengers on that train had been armed, quite possibly the only person shot might have been Ferguson. Given that such was not the case, we are left to speculate on a number of things.
benEzra
Moderator Emeritus
Someone should write a very polite letter to the author of this story and point out the glaring factual errors in what the ban actually covers.
"Machine pistols"?
"Exempts 650 semiautos"? Hardly. Exempts less than 10 self-loaders, doesn't it? And ZERO handguns.
"Machine pistols"?
"Exempts 650 semiautos"? Hardly. Exempts less than 10 self-loaders, doesn't it? And ZERO handguns.
alan
Member
Ironbarr wrote:asked
Senior Member
Interesting...
Let's see - isn't toting an UZI in WashDC illegal... (immoral, and fattening)?
Didn't you know that those congress critters and other special persons, as with the late Carl Rowan, of garden/swimming pool shooting fame, get "special consideration", not available to us mere mortals.
The Gentle Lady from Long Island, N.Y. is one such.
Senior Member
Interesting...
Let's see - isn't toting an UZI in WashDC illegal... (immoral, and fattening)?
Didn't you know that those congress critters and other special persons, as with the late Carl Rowan, of garden/swimming pool shooting fame, get "special consideration", not available to us mere mortals.
The Gentle Lady from Long Island, N.Y. is one such.
I heard President Bush speak this morning concerning terrorism. A reporter asked him if he would call back Congress for a special session. He said no, he would let them think about some issues (concerning terrorism). So, as those of us have been stating for some time, the AWB is just about over (for now). Unless of course we do something really stupid, like vote in John sKerry.
AWB - yeah, but...
I heard a call for a special session last week. Kerry's calling for it now. I don't have a doubt one that DiFEI would attach an amendment to whatever a special session would come up with. Also, they could just call the proper committee for "revue and action" then bring in the rest (before 9/14) for a vote - even after midnight.
Don't think for a minute that the fat lady has aready sang her Swan Song.
I heard a call for a special session last week. Kerry's calling for it now. I don't have a doubt one that DiFEI would attach an amendment to whatever a special session would come up with. Also, they could just call the proper committee for "revue and action" then bring in the rest (before 9/14) for a vote - even after midnight.
Don't think for a minute that the fat lady has aready sang her Swan Song.
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