Cross-Draw in a Hoodie?

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Around my parts, a hooded sweatshirt with the big front pocket is pretty common to see, I'd say, about 9 months out of the year. The very typical pose is hands in that front pocket, very casual, you all know what I am talking about.

The other day, I needed to make a quick run to the convenience store, and as it was brisk, I wanted to wear a hoodie. And as it is a whopping 2 blocks, I wanted to carry. :)

Just to experiment, I took my CW9, which normally rides IWB on my right side (I am right-handed), and put it in the cross-draw position at about 10 o'clock. So the grip stuck out forward (and in) a little bit, but with my big hoodie, you couldn't tell at all. I thought it would actually be faster draw than the 4 o'clock position, because lifting up the front of the hoodie and drawing is a lot faster than shifting both hands around to the right side to lift up the garment and draw. Then I thought, if I had a hole on the inside of my front pocket, I could walk around all day with my hand on my gun and no one would know. (Please no one take that out of context)

This is the same benefit people talk about with a pocket gun. It is a lot slower on the draw, unless you already have your hand on it. And you can have you hand on it, much less conspicuously. In fact I do sometimes carry my LCP in my front pocket, and it is quite easy to fit both the gun and my hand in my pocket very casually and no one can tell the difference. The hoodie-crossdraw requires an extra (baggy) garment, but allows a larger weapon to be carried, and it is SO common to see people walking around in hoodies, no one thinks twice about it.

Just wonderin' the high-roaders thoughts on this idea. I haven't gone so far as to cut any holes in my hoodies, but am thinking about it. (I have some pretty old ones from college that could be test subjects).
 
I'm with you on the whole pocket thing. Although I have a bit bigger gun in my pocket.

I don't like cross draw. Reason is as you're drawing same-side, you are pushing the gun up, but keeping it laterally on target. With cross draw, you bring the gun laterally to the target, which gives you a much narrower stopping point. I've heard many people end up drawing "too far" and overshooting the target.

With either method, you're going to have to move one hand to the other side. I don't think it would be that much faster.
 
I saw something some years ago about a guy carrying a hammerless, snub-nosed .38 revolver in his light jacket's right pocket. He was caught up in a late night grocery store stickup and was able to protect himself by firing right through the pocket without drawing his weapon out.

No hammer or slide = no worries about jamming.

Don't know the follow up on that as I deployed shortly afterwards. But there's pluses and minuses with those techniques.
 
I'm with you on the whole pocket thing. Although I have a bit bigger gun in my pocket.

I hear ya, aren't you pocketing an LC9 or something like that? I may recall a thread of that.

Anyway, I am aware of the typical disadvantages of cross-draw, the difference here though is that you'd already have your hand on the weapon. Also in this instance, the initial "draw" would be out of the holster and out of the pocket to the side. You then would be in the same position as you would in a strong-side draw, minus the time it takes to bring your hand back to your 4 o'clock, lift up garment, and draw gun. In both cases you are lifting the gun up, not panning laterally with it.
 
I saw something some years ago about a guy carrying a hammerless, snub-nosed .38 revolver in his light jacket's right pocket. He was caught up in a late night grocery store stickup and was able to protect himself by firing right through the pocket without drawing his weapon out.

No hammer or slide = no worries about jamming.

Don't know the follow up on that as I deployed shortly afterwards. But there's pluses and minuses with those techniques.

Yes I have heard of a few of those instances as well, firing from the jacket pocket, and the benefits of a revolver for doing so.

Just to clarify, I am still talking about carrying IWB and still would be drawing out of the hoodie and firing. The only difference is I could access the weapon more immediately and inconspicuously, via hole in hoodie. So in other words I wouldn't have to lift up my hoodie, reach under, and then draw.
 
I understand what you're looking into doing and it sounds interesting.

I just know that sometimes when you're trying out a new technique or tactic, you usually end up having to try a better suited tool as well.

BTW, is drawing out of the hoodie a must in your scenario? It sounds like a potential for snagging the gun on the pocket as you're drawing.

I say remove as many variables as you can for a cleaner draw or just fire from the pocket. Or draw from the pocket, and not from inside and thru the hoodie.
 
Sounds good for some, but hardly anyone here over the age of 18 wears a hoodie.. the few that do are under 21. Any older than that are probably ineligible to possess a firearm, anyway.
At "plenty-nine" years old, which is over forty, I can't even imagine what I'd look like..
 
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I don't wear "hoodies."

Wear a proper holster, that does not allow the gun to shift when you are using both hands to do other things.

Don't attach holsters to garments that can easily be removed from you by others.

Wear clothes that don't make you look like a perp or a bum.

Unless you are running around the track, or working out at the gym, or are at some sort of frat-party, you look like a perp and a bum when you wear a hoodie.

That's my opinion.
 
I hear ya, aren't you pocketing an LC9 or something like that? I may recall a thread of that.

M&P 9C. 13 rounds in one pocket, 12 in a back up mag in the other.

I was more referring to general cross draw. I should have addressed your issue. It makes sense, but personally I prefer to pocket carry in cargo shorts.

Apache, there have been threads about pocket carrying a revolver, and the info I got from those more experienced said the revolver tended to clog up with lint in the cylinder and lock up for a second shot.

Sounds good for some, but hardly anyone here over the age of 18 wears a hoodie.. the few that do are under 21. At "plenty-nine" years old, which is over forty, I can't even imagine what I'd look like..

You are obviously not from western washington.

WEG, same to you. You obviously don't live in western Washington. Hoodies are very common around here for most ages. Also, he was considering carrying the gun in a cross-draw holster with an opening in his hoodie to reach in and grab it, not simply carrying the gun in his hoodie pocket.
 
I too wear a hoodie, usually as an additional layer under my coat. But I don't wear the over-the-head style, rather the zip-up style. I totally get where you are coming from, but part of the reason why I don't wear that style garment is because I lose quick access to my pants pockets and anything that rides on my belt.

However, with my old BDU pants, t-shirts and flannels and hoodies, and my beard, I probably do look like a bum. But I've never been hassled about it before, and I've never been one to give damn what other people think of me.

Wear what you want, and that includes your holster options, just practice til you are proficient with that draw.
 
Well, W.E.G. I never said the midwest is a bastion of high fashion, hoodies (no need for quotes as it is a commonly-used term) are quite common here, even for adults such as myself. They are practical and casual. I am not wearing it out to fancy dinners or the office, but good to know I'll be profiled if I wear a hoodie in Virginia.

Owen, that is what I am thinking of doing. What size hole did you make. What position do you carry your gun on your waist?

Skribs, thanks for the clarification. Yes, the gun will still be HOLSTERED in my waistband. The idea is just that, my hands are usually in my front pocket anyway, why not provide easy/covert access to my gun while I am at it.

Apachedriver, I have thought about the snagging issue. The size of the hole will have to be pretty big to avoid that, I guess. I think I will have to dig out one of my more tattered ones and try it out, and will report back. I want to make sure this is feasible before I damage one of my nice, formal hoodies. :rolleyes:

Thanks for the responses thus far gentlemen.
 
When you cut the hole be sure to round the corners so that it will not tear or unravel in the wash. The hole in mine is nearly as big as the pocket. Any bulge just looks like you have something in your pocket like a phone, wallet, sunglasses etc.
 
Unless you are running around the track, or working out at the gym, or are at some sort of frat-party, you look like a perp and a bum when you wear a hoodie.

Except for Maine, Oregon, Washington, California, New Hampshire or Delaware, right?
 
I wear a hoodie alot. Looking like a bum has the effect of NOT looking like a target so it is a win win for me.

I often carry my 380 or 9mm in the pocket, no real biggie, they dont go off by themself.

Fashon police generally stay away from me as I usally have cow s--t on my boots as well which gives me a larger "personal space" when out in public :evil:
 
Fashon police generally stay away from me as I usally have cow s--t on my boots as well which gives me a larger "personal space" when out in public

I'm anosmic, so I wouldn't even notice. However, I'm not fashion police, so...
 
It helps if you have the colors and logo of a local highschool or college sports team on the back. It makes you look more middle class.
 
Mine is in the colors of the local college football team. That does not look out of place at all, especially this time of year.
 
Fashon police generally stay away from me as I usally have cow s--t on my boots as well which gives me a larger "personal space" when out in public :evil:

As long as the cow manure matches the color of your boots, it's all good. :)
 
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