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marvin harrison an nfl player is being investigated in a shooting

the news says a custom made belgium hand gun that shoots 50 caliber bullets was used
what gun is this? and which 50 caliber bullet does it shoot?
 
jgo296,
There's no mention in the article you linked to of the caliber of the pistol.

Report: Harrison investigated in shooting outside bar

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ESPN.com news services

Indianapolis Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison is under investigation in his hometown of Philadelphia in a shooting that took place earlier this week, a source close to the investigation told Anthony Gargano of Philadelphia's WIP Radio.


Harrison was interviewed by police about the shooting near his North Philadelphia bar this week.

Lt. Frank Vanore said the investigation of Tuesday's shooting was continuing. Harrison has not been arrested or charged.

"He was interviewed," Vanore said Friday. "Why he was interviewed, that is all part of the investigation. No one is a suspect."

After the first day of their rookie minicamp, Colts coach Tony Dungy said he knew little more than had been reported.

"My phone has been ringing, too, but I don't have any details," Dungy said. "I really don't have any more information than you do."

Calls by ESPN to Harrison and his agent have not been returned. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league was "aware of the report, and we are looking into it."


The source said the alleged victim came into the bar, Playmakers, around 5 p.m. and engaged in an argument with Harrison, who was at the bar. The victim then left the bar, heading to his car, with Harrison following. Gunfire broke out, the victim was hit in the hand, and a young girl was slightly injured by flying glass from a car that apparently was hit by a bullet.

Police came to scene, but the victim did not identify a shooter. On Wednesday, according to the source, ballistic tests showed that the gun that had fired the shots was a custom-made Belgian weapon, and police determined that Harrison owned such a gun. A source told ESPN.com's John Clayton that the gun is registered.

Police then went to a Philadelphia car wash owned by Harrison to question him about the gun. Harrison admitted owning such a weapon, but claimed it never left his suburban Philadelphia home.

However, the source said the gun was discovered in a bucket at the car wash, and tests showed that it had fired seven bullets that matched those found at the scene.

The source said police were contacted Friday by an attorney representing a second alleged victim in the shooting, and police are now waiting for that individual to come forward.

Harrison, a prep football star at Philadelphia's Roman Catholic High, has owned Playmakers since July 2004, according to state records.

Harrison has played his entire 12-season career with the Colts and is the franchise's record-holder in every major receiving category -- receptions (1,042), yards (13,944), touchdowns (123) and 100-yard games (59). The 35-year-old is one of only four players in league history to top 1,000 receptions.

But after eight consecutive Pro Bowl appearances, last season was the most frustrating of Harrison's career.

He injured his left knee against Denver on Sept. 30, finished with 20 receptions for 247 yards and one TD and missed all but five games.

Team president Bill Polian said in February that Harrison was recovering from offseason arthroscopic surgery on his right knee and had been rehabilitating the inflamed capsule in his left knee. He was not expected to be completely healthy for the start of the Colts training camp July 24.

The typically quiet Harrison has a reputation for being humble on and off the field.

But he's still one of the Colts' most visible players -- and their longest tenured veteran. Harrison, along with Peyton Manning and Edgerrin James, were nicknamed Indy's triplets in the late 1990s. He was a first-round draft pick in 1996 out of Syracuse and wound up the best receiver in a class that included Keyshawn Johnson and Eric Moulds.

Off the field, Harrison was sued following the 2005 Pro Bowl when three boys accused him of attacking them when they tried to get his autograph. The suit alleged Harrison "violently and physically attacked" the minors, including placing a "potentially deadly choke hold" on one of the boys, but it was later dismissed.
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ballistic tests showed that the gun that had fired the shots was a custom-made Belgian weapon
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Amazing how bullets in PA are now imprinted with the country of manufacture of the gun firing it. Doubly amazing that it accurately does so, magically changing (presumably) when shot from a different gun made in a different country.

And a FiveseveN is not a "custom" gun.
 
Right. Good point. Where do they come up with this stuff? It's amazing how he reports as if it is confirmed, that the gun is (a) Belgian, (b) Custom, and (c) .50 caliber. :rolleyes:

I will say that *IF* he was trying to kill the guy (it appears that whoever was doing the shooting wanted to kill the guy), AND *IF* it was indeed a FiveseveN, then this shows how ineffective that round is against vehicle glass - apparently 7 shots through car glass and all he manages to do is graze the hand of the intended victim.
 
Let me take a stab at the custom Belgian 50 Caliber.

Belgian = Browning Hi Power
Custom = Practical
50 Caliber = 40 Caliber
 
I just love how ballistic fingerprinting magically works here, and how it magically ID's that the firearm is "custom." But in which fashion? Did he change the grips? Get a trigger job? Have it forged by a monk in the mountains during the most holy ceremony of the Chupacabra? only ballistic fingerprinting can tell....
 
The amazing world of 'journalists'...

5.7mm mistaken for 50 caliber?
Okay, sounds reasonable for a 'journalist'.

Yes, FN (used to stand for 'Fabrique Nacionale') has it's world headquarters in Belgium.

Custom? I don't think one can even change the grips. Nor does the various websites I've found show much in the way of 'options'. Perhaps one could paint it?

And the obligatory "...fires armor-piercing rounds..." remark, which is technically true, but leaves out the part about that requires ammunition which is not available for general sale in the United States.

Over all, for a 'journalist', this isn't too bad a report. (Much like saying "For a con man, he's pretty honest".) Heaven only knows how close the rest of the details are to reality; I have no way of independently checking them. There may be more detail coming. I'll be interested to see how this plays out.
 
ustom? I don't think one can even change the grips. Nor does the various websites I've found show much in the way of 'options'. Perhaps one could paint it?
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The price tag and scarcity alone is easily enough to make a reporter think it's a custom gun.

And the obligatory "...fires armor-piercing rounds..." remark, which is technically true, but leaves out the part about that requires ammunition which is not available for general sale in the United States.
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A few years ago, I saw a review of the gun that someone did with photos. In the interview, he compared it to a CZ-52 against Level 2 body armor. Both the CZ-52 and FN 5 Seven went through. He used Winchester ammo in the 5 Seven and Seller and Bellote in the CZ-52 if my memory serves me correctly.
Oddly enough, the 7.62x25 proved to have just as much penetration as the 5.7 but more punch.
Of course, most .30 Caliber FMJ rifle rounds will penetrate Level 3 body armor but are "technically" not armor piercing rounds, where in legal terms, armor piercing ammo has solid materials in the bullet that allow it to dig through heavy duty material. In that sense, you are correct, though under that observation, the 9mm Luger P-08 and .3006 M-1 Garand are also designed to fire armor piercing ammo.

50 caliber 22 caliber whats the difference?
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Not a darn thing if it hits you between the eyes.
 
I was on the road for a good part of the day yesterday and while listening to ESPN radio, the Colin Cowherd show in particular, they were talking about this situation. I can't count the number of times I heard "Custom made Belgium gun". The reporter on the phone mentioned something about "...why would Marvin Harrison even need a gun like this...", bla, bla, bla. All I could do was cringe and listen to the crap these guys spewed out of their mouths. I don't really care if Marvin Harrison is involved or not. Between the custom gun and armor piercing bullets, it was all I could take. It really bothers me that someone that has that large of a listening audience could put that out on the air without even basic fact checking. Someone did call in and mention that the gun wasn't all that rare, but it didn't help the tone of the conversation that much.
 
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