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  1. helz_mcfugly

    helz_mcfugly Member

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    I have a Yugo mauser 98 in .308 winchester. It has a timney trigger which I have set at 6 ounces, Boyt laminate thumbhole stock, glass beaded, heavy bull barrel, Banner 18x scope and bypod. It shoots sub MOA groups at 100 - 200 yards, the only thing I dont like about it is the bolt. its old, heavy, hard to rack, the safety doesnt work, and its floppy when all the way open. Ide like one like in the bottom pic. the top pic is my rifle. An idea where to get one?
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  2. earplug

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    Most all M-98 bolts are sloppy, what you need is a new bolt shroud if you don't like the one you have.
    Several after market shrouds, cocking pieces, firing pins are available. Some may not work with your trigger due to a change in safety type. Yours operates the cocking piece, the one you want works the trigger.
    Have a gunsmith show your whats available out of a catalog, don't forget to pay him for his time.
    If you don't already have a speed lock kit, now is the time to install one.
     
  3. helz_mcfugly

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    thanks for the info. what exacty does a speed lock kit do because I think mine may already have one but Im not sure. It does have a Timney trigger on it that was set to 4 lbs when I got it and I set it to 6 Ounces so its almost wind controlled and has no creap or over travel.
     
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    Speed lock

    reduces the time between when the trigger releases the firing pin and the FP hitting the primer. Called Lock Time.
    This is done with a heavier spring, shorter travel or lighter parts, or a combination of the above.
    The less lock time the less movement of the firearm by the shooter while on target.
    A rifle shot from a rest is less effected then a rifle held off hand.
    I just checked the Brownell's catalog. The shroud you want won't work with the trigger you have. You safety is functionally very good, good positive lock. You can get a M-70 looking safety for about $150-175 not including installation or finish work.
     
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    Hopefully your 6oz trigger is "bump safe".
    The second picture shows a Mauser with a commercial bolt shroud. You'll need a trigger controlling safety if you use something like the picture. It's visible in the picture.
    A standard shroud with a low scope style safety is all that you need. Perhaps your cocking piece is incorrect, creating a non functioning safety.
    I think a person knowledgeable with Mausers should check this out for you. It will not take much to make it right.

    NCsmitty
     
  6. jlmurphy

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    You can buy a bolt shroud from Brownell's, it would be cheaper to buy a Timney trigger with a side safety than to try and convert to a Winchester bolt shroud safety.
     
  7. helz_mcfugly

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    well as it is right now that safety doesnt work. and yes its bump proof. I wouldnt chamber a round unless I was ready to shoot anyway. but Ide like a new shroud that less bulky then the one I have on there now with a safety. I found this one on midway. will this work with my bolt?
    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=877219
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    The 3-position safety shroud from Midway will work on all M98 variants but will have to be professionally installed/fitted. There are much simpler and less expensive options. An FN style shroud and a Bold trigger w/safety can be had for about $80-$90 combined and are "drop-in". Sporter Express is also a good source for Mauser aftermarket parts.
     
  9. R.W.Dale

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    For what you propose it'd be much cheaper to buy another rifle such as the Marlin xl7 or stevens200
     
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    Not cheaper at all! A complete beautifully blued and polished commercial bolt sells for around $185.00. Assuming no headspace problems that beats the cost of a new rifle by a large margin.
     
  11. helz_mcfugly

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    I guess I didnt start this thread out right. Im not looking to save money or trade this rifle off for another. I have damn near 100 rifles and dont need to replace this one. I just got it. And Im not looking for the simplest, cheapest way out. I am wanting to make the bolt look and feel tighter, I just cant find one. It doesnt need a safety but it would be nice. Im taking it to the gunsmith tomorrow and see what he can do for it. but like it is, its an awesome rifle, Im jsut trying to upgrade it a bit
     
  12. BornAgainBullseye

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    that has to be the worst idea I have ever herd. You must not know anything about building a custom rifle! Remember a custom rifle expresses something about yourself, and has nothing in the world to do with getting a elcheapo krapgun that any chump can walk into sportsmans warehouse and buy. I could have expected this reply from a 18 yearold college student who owns a glock and hates 1911's
     
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    +1 BAB. and I have a Colt 1911 on my side right now :D
     
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    I am in the same boat as your Mauser. I have a Model 98k that I have done an action tune up. Adams & Bennet F54 stainless fluted barrel in .308 and it sits acraglassed in a Fajen walking varminteer stock. I have replaced the ugly floorplate with a sweet hinged floorplate with the release in the bow of the trigger guard. It has a Timmeny Sportsman set at 2.5 lbs. My safety is not working because of the trigger. It never has gone off doing the drop test on the recoil pad, but I never close the bolt until I am ready to fire. I am looking at the 2 options we both have when it comes to putting the finishing touch on these fine builds. 1st is the Model 70 3 position safety. which I drool over and costs as much as another cheap rifle.... But it is soo sweet....! The other option, and much more affordable is the Bold or Timmeny trigger with intregal safety. You will need to inlet the stock for the safety lever and get a commercial bolt shroud like the one in the bottom picture. BTW it looks like a Interarms Mark X with reciever drilled and taped for a micrometer sight. Either way they both look and function well
     
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    Yeah when you build it yourself instead of buying someone elses hackjob


    this may come as a shock to you but they actually make stuff to customize rifles that AREN'T clapped out military surplus rifles. I used to have a very extensive collection of professional sporterizations of every military action avalible over the past 120yrs. But after awhile I got sick and tired of the crapshoot that is found with all things BUBBA. No matter how nicely done there's always at least ONE nagging little issue with sporterizations. But hey at least they're cheap, I've bought sporters that would have cost $1000 to build for less than a Marlin 60 costs.


    and I expect your comments to come from the type who scrapes together for a $50 mosin nagant installs a advanced technology stock with a NcStar scope and thinks they have something that'll shoot with a modern commercial rifle.
     
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    You must be a Apple Martini drinking Glock owner.... did I touch a bad nerve. BTW Id be a little wiser with your choice of words when you call these guns clapped out surplus. My rifles have more quality than that junk put together on an assembly line using slave labor.
     
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    except for the milsurp examples put together by actual slave labor. Are you calling the American worker a slave compared to some undesirable in a forced labor camp, or some uneducated goon from eastern europe ?

    did I hit a nerve?
     
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    The personal attacks stop, or someone gets introduced to the door.
     
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    Let me know which way you go with it! Sweet gun! How does it shoot?
     
  21. helz_mcfugly

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    SO :p I could just get a commercial bolt shroud for $34 and it will look like the bolt in the bottom picture? and I guess if I want the safety I could get the Timney trigger just like the one I have only with a safety for $84 and trim the stock a bit to make it fit.
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    kill two birds with one stone and spend $145 and get the 3 Position Safety shroud which is probably what I'll do.
    I think that pretty much answers most of my original question. thank you B.A.B.

    how bout that floppyness when its all the way open? is there anything that can be done about that? I messed with a few mausers up at my buddies gunstore and they all feel like that. some more then others, Ide say mine is about in the middle but Ide like it to feel like my Remington 700. nice smooth slide all the way out.

    OH and by the way my receiver is a short action Yugo 48 but the bolt will take parts for a 98.
     
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    shoots .5 MOA at 100 yards. I use 110 gr. Hornady V-max with 42 gr of H-322. its accurate out to 500 yards. I got the rifle from a gunsmith that Ive known for a long time who built it and Ive known this rifle for a long time as well. ever since it was a baby, lol
     
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    Tubb Speed lock

    Midway sells them. You can get one for the M-98.
     
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    what does the tubb speed lock do?
     
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    nevermind. I researched it. I didnt know the you could increase accuracy that much by replacing that. I bought one, thanks for the tip earplug. by the time im done this rifle it will be making one hole with a 5 shot group at 100 yards with you guys tips. very greatful.

    so far today Ive ordered a tubb speed lock, shroud with safety.
     
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