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Cut down Mosin-Nagant

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by kestak, Mar 27, 2009.

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  1. kestak

    kestak Member

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    Greetings,

    I am sure it will go under the stupid questions. But just for the heck of it:

    I saw a picture of a Mosin-Nagant with the barrell and the stock cut. It was looking almost like a black powder handgun.

    It is called a Obrez : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNFsUvh078I

    If you do not have a shoulder stock on it (you cut it off, can you legally cut the barrell under the 16" measure of a bolt-action rifle? It becomes a handgun. Not a very ergonomic one, but one still. Or because it was a rifle, it can't be done legally?

    Thank you
     
  2. ramis

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    In addition to complying with NFA, you need to check your state laws. Some states do not permit SBR's even if you jump through the federal hoops...
     
  4. PTK

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    Yes, it involved a $200 tax as an SBR, it's mine, it's a range toy, and it was worth every single penny.
     
  5. panrobercik

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    Insurgents did this to rifles during WW2. The cutting was done with a hacksaw and a new crown would be made with a file. It made impressive exit wounds.
     
  6. elmerfudd

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    You can convert a pistol to a rifle legally, but if you convert a rifle to a pistol then you have to get the NFA tax stamp.
     
  7. Kind of Blued

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    Slapping a buttstock on a pistol (making it a rifle) without a tax stamp is illegal, so no, not really.
     
  8. WardenWolf

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    That's honestly one of the meanest hoglegs you could have.
     
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    KoB- You have to add the 16" barrel as well to make it legal. Kits with a 16" barrel and buttstock to fit the 1911 have been around for many years. You are correct in that just adding the stock is a no-no due to minimum barrel length requirements.
     
  10. elmerfudd

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    It's only illegal if the barrel or overall length is too short in which case you have converted a pistol into an illegal rifle. It's not an illegal rifle because you started with a pistol though. It's illegal because the barrel is too short and it hasn't been OK-d by the ATF.
     
  11. PTK

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    panrobercik,

    It's been done since 1891, for these rifles. First real recorded incidents (of cut down rifles like this) involved the Crimean war. :D

    Mike the Wolf

    Yes, yes it is.
     
  12. panrobercik

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    PTK, have you actually shot a solid object to see the devastation done by an unstabilized bullet ? I heard stories from old Polish people who used those during WW2 that they would make an instant kill at close distance and leave giant exit wounds
     
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