CZ Bobwhite SXS

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Anyone had a chance to handle, shoot, even just get a look at one of these from CZ.
Listed at the CZ site for $743 seems unbelievably inexpensive for a SXS.
I guess it comes with a set of screw in chokes, which I don't care for, rather have fixed.
Straight English stock, 26 or 28 Bbls.
 
I bought a new CZ Bobwhite (SXS 12 ga 28 inch barrels) about 3 months ago. It was built by Huglu. So far I have put about 2800 rounds through it shooting skeet. It has performed well and the only problem has been the triggers. I discuss that below. The gun fits me well and handles nicely. I found the gun on sale NIB from CDNN. The total cost with transfer and shipping was about $545. Unfortunately I don't think CDNN has them in stock any longer. You may want to check.

Overall the fit and finish of the gun are pretty good. The wood is very plain, but is is nicely checkered and fitted pretty well to the metal. The barrels are polished and blued and the reciever is color case hardened. I don't know if the case hardening is real or some type of fake finish. More than likely it's fake. I notice that it is beginning to thin where I hold the gun.

However, there are two things about the gun that need improving. The opening lever is very stiff. It has loosened up some, but it still is a little stiff. The other concern is the trigger pull. The trigger pulls measured to be about 10 pounds. This was measured by a Timney spring type trigger gauge. I made a mistake and had a local gunsmith perform a "trigger job" on the gun when I reached 2500 rounds. It worked fine for 300 rounds and then it started to double. I have sent the gun to DeHaan shotguns (look them up with a google search) to have the triggers repaired. I should have done this the first time. It was beyond the capabilities of the local smith.

My long term concern is how will the gun hold up over the years. As stated above I have 2800 rounds on the gun now, but will it last to 15,000 or 30,000 rounds? Only time will tell.

As others have stated Huglu has had quality issues in the past. From the reviews and reports I have seen they seemed to have improved on quality starting some time in 2007. Many people advise that caution is needed when buying a Hugla made before 2007.

I hope this helps.
 
i have one in 28 guage that i dove hunt with. I also find it difficult to "break". I have no idea how many rounds i have through it but so far i have been very pleased. I bought it new in the box on gunbroker for 535.00 and that included the shipping etc.
 
I hope this helps.
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It does. I want another light 20 for a field gun. Pheasants, Chukar, and Huns.
At my age I just don't get out in the field as much as I want to anymore, so it wouldn't see a lot of rounds through it.

One thing puts me off is the screw in chokes. Did CZ make any with fixed chokes?

Friend of mine got one of the S&W 20 gauge SXS guns.
They're made in Turkey too, but by whom I don't know.
It's a nice light good fitting and fast pointing gun.
Don't remember what it cost him, quite a bit more than the CZ I think.
 
The S&W are made by UTAS, not Huglu - good guns, I have one and the fit and finish are very well done, the triggers are good, and the barrels are properly regulated
 
gpb said:
I bought a new CZ Bobwhite (SXS 12 ga 28 inch barrels) about 3 months ago. It was built by Huglu. So far I have put about 2800 rounds through it shooting skeet. It has performed well and the only problem has been the triggers. I discuss that below. The gun fits me well and handles nicely. I found the gun on sale NIB from CDNN. The total cost with transfer and shipping was about $545. Unfortunately I don't think CDNN has them in stock any longer. You may want to check.

Overall the fit and finish of the gun are pretty good. The wood is very plain, but is is nicely checkered and fitted pretty well to the metal. The barrels are polished and blued and the reciever is color case hardened. I don't know if the case hardening is real or some type of fake finish. More than likely it's fake. I notice that it is beginning to thin where I hold the gun.

However, there are two things about the gun that need improving. The opening lever is very stiff. It has loosened up some, but it still is a little stiff. The other concern is the trigger pull. The trigger pulls measured to be about 10 pounds. This was measured by a Timney spring type trigger gauge. I made a mistake and had a local gunsmith perform a "trigger job" on the gun when I reached 2500 rounds. It worked fine for 300 rounds and then it started to double. I have sent the gun to DeHaan shotguns (look them up with a google search) to have the triggers repaired. I should have done this the first time. It was beyond the capabilities of the local smith.

My long term concern is how will the gun hold up over the years. As stated above I have 2800 rounds on the gun now, but will it last to 15,000 or 30,000 rounds? Only time will tell.

As others have stated Huglu has had quality issues in the past. From the reviews and reports I have seen they seemed to have improved on quality starting some time in 2007. Many people advise that caution is needed when buying a Hugla made before 2007.

I hope this helps.
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Was there any reasons you didn't send the gun to CZ-USA when the initial trouble began?
 
Yes there was a reason I didn't send it to CZ when the initial troubles began.

Except for the heavy trigger pull and heavy top lever the gun seemed fine. I wanted to give the gun time to "wear in". As I shot it and kept the hinge and top lever greased the stiffness of the top lever eased. However, the heavy trigger pull persisted. I hoped that I could avoid the hassel of shipping the gun off to CZ by using a local gunsmith. This gunsmith has done work for me in the past and seemed capabile. Well, I made a mistake, he wasn't capabile of working on the triggers of a double. My error. I located someone at the local gun club that had a Huglu who had gone down the same path regarding triggers on a Huglu that I had. He recommended DeHaan for trigger work. He loaned me a gun that DeHaan had done trigger work on, it was very nice. So, I decided to send my gun to DeHaan. I have nothing against CZ service, I've heard good things about them. I just have first hand information that DeHaan does very good trigger work.
 
gpb said:
Yes there was a reason I didn't send it to CZ when the initial troubles began.

Except for the heavy trigger pull and heavy top lever the gun seemed fine. I wanted to give the gun time to "wear in". As I shot it and kept the hinge and top lever greased the stiffness of the top lever eased. However, the heavy trigger pull persisted. I hoped that I could avoid the hassel of shipping the gun off to CZ by using a local gunsmith. This gunsmith has done work for me in the past and seemed capabile. Well, I made a mistake, he wasn't capabile of working on the triggers of a double. My error. I located someone at the local gun club that had a Huglu who had gone down the same path regarding triggers on a Huglu that I had. He recommended DeHaan for trigger work. He loaned me a gun that DeHaan had done trigger work on, it was very nice. So, I decided to send my gun to DeHaan. I have nothing against CZ service, I've heard good things about them. I just have first hand information that DeHaan does very good trigger work.
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Cool. I was just curious, and I agree 100% that sometimes it's preferable to spend a few bucks and have your gun back in a few weeks than to send it off to the big empty and have it back who knows when.
 
I ran into my buddy who has the S&W SXS 20 yesterday.
We both agree if screw in chokes on a double barrel were obvious it would ruin the looks of the gun.
I had an adjustable choke on a shotgun when I was in high school, but that was over 50 years ago.
I think that CZ has to come off the list. I generally never look at a shotgun if it doesn't have a fixed choke barrel.
I'll have to look around and see if I can find one to get an idea of just what it really looks like.
 
I have a DeHaan with fixed chokes, consider the extra bucks. Or contact CZ-USA and see what they can do.
 
What I couldn't get over on the 28ga Bobwhite I checked out, was the bulge in the barrels, from the choke tubes. :scrutiny:
 
What I couldn't get over on the 28ga Bobwhite I checked out, was the bulge in the barrels, from the choke tubes
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Because the tubes were swaged after initial making to accommodate those choke tubes - you won't see that on Browning barrels, because they are too thick already and handle like they are
 
Because the tubes were swaged after initial making to accommodate those choke tubes
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Sure, but what an ugly result.
Is it cheaper than fixed chokes or just trying to hit everyone by offering every possible choke in a single gun?
 
That's what I'm thinking.
A friend of mine might be coming over today for some hunting.
He's a lifelong shotgunner to the bone and uses guns I only drool over.
I'll be picking his brain about finding a new gun like I want that I can afford.
 
I'd guess it's a combination of both cheaper and be all, do all but yea I agree it was ugly....IMO

Otherwise, it didn't look bad for a modern, budget SxS.
 
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