CZ Rami experience?

[Lennyjoe]

Who has one, how do you like it and what's the reliability like?

I'm interested in getting one for my girlfriend. She likes her Beretta 92 and Makarov but wants something smaller for her purse.

I looked at them and prefer the metal frame over the polymer. She has handled them too and likes the metal frame also.

 

[candr44]

I have owned the 9mm metal frame one for several years and it is always reliable. The .40 caliber has been known to have problems though.

Mine stays in my truck and gets the florida heat all summer long. Even after several years of this, it has always worked reliably. One thing I did change though is the magazine bottom. I replaced the magazine floor plates with Pierce extended grip floor plates. It helped my pincky finger get a grip also.

 

[ClickClickD'oh]

I wear a 9mm RAMI P appendix carry almost every day. Good firearm.

 

[TennJed]

Got mine in yesterday and will take it out for the first time tomorrow. I will d a range report. Mine is a 9mm steel non decocker model.

It sure is a good looking gun. A VERY smal compact double stack 14 rd gun. My impressions of it so far is I am suprised just how compact it is. Seems to be close to the same size as my old Kel Tec p11. but I do not have it anymore to do a side by side comaprision. Suprrising lighter feeling than I anticipated

 

[Shoot66]

I carried the poly model for a couple of years. It was a very good handgun.

 

[donato]

I have owned a RAMI 9mm alloy. I never had any problems with it and I enjoyed shooting it. It's quite accurate too. BUT, I would not recommend it as a "purse" gun. There are better/smaller/lighter handguns for that purpose.

 

[Sergei Mosin]

A purse gun is a really terrible idea. Purses are frequently snatched or simply put down and lost. Having either of those things happen with a gun inside... If she wants something smaller and lighter, great, but she should carry it on her person, not in her purse.

 

[Plan2Live]

A purse gun is a really terrible idea. Purses are frequently snatched or simply put down and lost. Having either of those things happen with a gun inside... If she wants something smaller and lighter, great, but she should carry it on her person, not in her purse.

I second this.

 

[Batty67]

Old post resurrect, but I have a CZ RAMI BD (9mm) that I really like. Fantastic ergonomics, and with the extended magazine/grip it carries 14+1 Remingon Golden Sabers. I added the grip extensions for the 10-rd magazines and they are also nice (but I prefer the longer magazine). Simply point-and-shoots wonderfully. The first time I shot it, I obliterated the 9-10 ring at 7 yards. The trigger is a bit strange, and I get some numbing of the finger tip when I shoot it more than a 100 rounds.

Also, I'd call it a small compact or a large subcompact. Pretty wide. Not bad though. As for reliability, my oldest buddy, and FBI SSA and former instructor at FBI's Firearms Instruction unit in Quantico and I shot about 300 rounds through it of 7-8 types, weights, and brands. To include +P. A total of one FTL and that was me and I'm pretty sure I did a short slide rack. Ran flawlessly. He deemed it sufficiently reliable to CC.

Tough to get the BD. I got flat-out lucky and got the only one Impact Arms had for months.

 

[Godsgunman]

I just got my Rami a couple weeks ago and love it! It is surprisingly compact and light IMO. I got it to replace my CZ 82 for carry which I absolutely love and couldnt be happier with my choice. Very accurate and reliable and more fire power (have 1 10rnd + 2 14rnd). As stated above though, I would encourage her to carry on her person and not in purse for obvious reasons.

 

[Pilot]

I have a 75D PCR that I carry most of the time. I have considered an alloy framed RAMI on and off for somee time, but it doesn't seem that much smaller than the PCR. However, I've never been able to do a side by side comparison for size. Has anyone done this? Thanks.

 

[emb]

I have a Rami P in 9mm. Very reliable and concealable. Very manageable to shoot. I have to wear a shirt and tie every day. So I carry it in a tuckable IWB holster. My only complaint is that when I sweat on it, the slide and mag releases rust. Regular cleaning and oil solved this issue, and I do not regularly carry this weapon dressed causally or in the field.

I get a kick when folks start writing about "small" pistols and revolvers. There really is not that much relevant difference in most of them. For example I recently considered purchasing the new SA XDS becasue of its "small" size. Now, I already have a Glock 36 and the 9mm Rami. I also considered another smaller 9mm. I ended up with a Glock 30 and not because I didn't like the XDS. I did-alot.

Here's why I didn't purchase the new "smaller" XDS. and rounding the numbers for simplicity:

XDS-6 1/4 long
4 1/2 high
1 wide
5 + 1

Glock 36-7 long
4 3/4 high
1 1/8 wide
6 +1

Glock 30-6 3/4 long
4 1/2 high
1 1/4 wide
10 + 1

Rami 9mm-6 1/2 long
4 5/8 high
1 1/4 wide
10 + 1

Glock 26-6 1/4 long
4 1/8 high
1 1/4 wide
10 + 1

When I did this exercise, it became a no brainer. I didn't need another "smaller" 9mm or 45. Not factoring the weight, which within limits I don't care about anyway, there is not enough difference in the size of these weapons to sneeze at.

I then changed my purchase criteria. After all I came to purchase a new pistol and wasn't going to leave disappointed. I carry a lot in the field as well as concealed and wanted some versatility in terms of magazine capacity, barrels, and not rusting when I sweat all over it. 11 rounds of .45 in the Glock 30 in the same relative package as the others won, but I wouldn't call it a "purse gun".

 

[History.Doc]

Have one in 9mm and love it. I've never had a problem with mine. I don't know if I'm luck or CZ makes great guns (or both), but I have three of their 9mm pistols (and one .380) and all of them have been 100% reliable. No experience with their .40s or .45s.

 

[Walter]

I have an early alloy-framed .40SW Rami. It had some feeding failure issues when I first got it, but I got those all worked out, and it is a great little gun.
But it is a 40, and it has a LOT of snap when fired. I don't mind the recoil, but
as Batty67 mentioned, the "trigger-slap" is bad. His 9mm numbs his finger after a hundred rounds, my 40 does that in about 30 rounds.

That trigger issue is pretty well known about, some attributing it to the shape of the trigger, others claiming it's an issue with the firing pin block lever. I don't use my Rami for a range gun so it's not an issue for me. I shoot it enough to feel competent with it, and use it as a CC gun.

Walter

 

[Godsgunman]

I like the trigger and feel and don't even notice the "trigger slap". The DA pull is nice IMO smooth and not too heavy. I started as a revolver shooter though so I like a good DA pull to begin with.

 

[Walter]

Godsgunman ...I like the trigger and feel and don't even notice the "trigger slap". The DA pull is nice IMO smooth and not too heavy. I started as a revolver shooter though so I like a good DA pull to begin with.

Then your gun isn't doing it, because it is not something you "don't notice". It is downright painful after a while. It doesn't happen on every RAMI, but it is prevalent enough that there is a lot written about it on the net, if you look for it.

I am inclined to believe the "firing pin block lever" theory myself, because it involves a timing issue and a shape issue that could be random, but still affect many guns, 9mm or .40SW. The trigger shape, being the same on all the guns, should produce the same effect on all the guns.

Just my 2 cents.

Walter

 

[TennJed]

Never noticed a trigger slap with mine

 

[chris in va]

She may want to consider a Kahr MK9 instead. Thinner.

 

[History.Doc]

Mine:

 

[Lennyjoe]

Thanks for all the feedback so far.

As for a purse gun, she'd probably wear it on her body more than carry in a purse.

She wants compact, .40 cal and a SA/DA with a hammer. Her dad kinda brainwashed her from the DAO pistols but I've been working on that. She shot a G19 rather well and I think she may be leaning towards that instead of the Rami.

Either way, we will go do some gun shopping at the next gunshow so she can handle the different models and make a dermination from there. I've always been interested in the Rami so maybe I'm nudging her that way when I really shouldnt be. Maybe I'll just get my own....

Thanks for all the feedback folks.

 

[Pilot]

The excellent CZ-75D PCR (lightweight alloy, compact) is similar in size to the G19. Maybe she should try that also?

 

[Bozwell]

If you're considering a G19, I'd also consider the compact sized CZ's. Something like a PCR or P-01 (particularly a Pro-tek variant) is going to be easier to shoot than a RAMI and similarly sized to the G19.

 

[Erich]

I tripped over a lightly used aluminum-framed 9x19 RAMI years ago at a pawn shop for $260, and I bought it on a lark. I'd not been one of the Kool Aid drinkers when the things were released, so I was pleasantly surprised to find that it's a reliable, easy to shoot, accurate and decently small little gun.

Noting that the factory rubber stocks added some unnecessary and (for me) counterproductive thickness to the double-stack frame, I pulled them off and replaced them with flat plastic ones I made up (along with a rubber tennis racquet grip enhancer for grippyness). I find the gun capable of shooting one-hole full-mag groups with FMJs that it likes at 10 yards. It positively loves 147-grain Speer Gold Dots (which do c. 925 fps from the 3" tube), but I carry with also-accurate 124-gr short barrel +P Gold Dots that do 1185 fps. I have used 115-gr +P+ 9BPLE (1215 fps) from the gun, but didn't feel the platform really liked it, and I've not found the gun to be reliable with my beloved Winchester 127-gr +P+ RA9TA Ranger Talons (slams slide back so hard that it wants to stick).



The trigger pull is interesting. Like other CZ-75-derived pistols, the single-action pull actually lifts the hammer a teensy bit before dropping it. A little disconcerting, but not difficult to handle. The DA and SA pulls are smooth, but a little long and heavy. I find that keeping ten rounds in the short mag results in a rattle, so I tend to carry with only 9 in the onboard mag. That said, Mec-Gar 16-round CZ-75 magazines work great in the gun and are what I carry for back-up duty.

With my PPS



I used to carry this gun (in a Remora no-clip IWB) a lot more than I presently do - I love shooting it and love the traditional double action with the hammer. But it's larger and heavier (more bullets will do that) than my 3" Kahr, so it winds up falling between my teeny-tiny-no-cover-garment niche and my compact-auto-with-a-cover-garment niche and not seeing a lot of use these days.

I'm glad to own it, though, and am happy to rely upon it for personal protection.

 

[Bozwell]

I've heard great things about them from the folks that own RAMI's, but I just don't have a need for one. I personally wish they made the RAMI's a bit smaller. I'd be more tempted to get one if it was pocket-carry size, perhaps like a P238. As it is, I just stick with my compact CZ's.

 

[WRGADog]

Bought a CZ P2075 RAMI a couple of years back and only kept the gun for a couple of months. The trigger felt very gritty and the gun was very selective on which ammo it would feed. I sent the gun out for a trigger job and cured the grittiness, but despite polishing the feed ramp the gun failed to feed far to often for my liking. I tried multiple manufacturer's ammo and never could get the gun to feed consistently. I also tried multiple magazines without success. So, I traded the RAMI for a XDM 3.8 that functions correctly 100% of the time.