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CZ rifles - opinions

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by bender, Sep 21, 2006.

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  1. bender

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    I was browsing Eric Brook's site, which was recommended up above by claiborne:

    http://cz452.com/

    Eric says that many people prefer that their kids learn shooting with iron sights first, then maybe learn with a scope. He makes a ghost ring sight that is a replacement for the rear sight on CZ 452s. He says it helps aging eyes that can't focus on both the rear & front sights (like me). My kid probably won't need the ghost ring though, his eyes are a lot better than mine.
     
  2. Z_Infidel

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    bender, you might be interested in this. I took some time and worked with the bolt on my 550 FS the other day. I found that using good technique and working the bolt vigorously is the key. Don't try to work the bolt with just your fingers, but rather open and shut it with the palm of the hand and work it in a smooth but firm manner. The "sticking" problem is now a non-issue for me and the bolt works very nicely without hanging up at all.

    Some lube on the bolt doesn't hurt either.
     
  3. Vincent

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    Here's Blondie

    My 22 Hornet American. I really like this rifle. Consistantly shoots between .3 to .6 MOA groups with just a bout any bullet from 33 Gr speer to the 45 grain Hornet bullets. It's favorite bullet is the 35 VMaxx and it seems to like the 40 VMaxx just fine.

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  4. Dollar An Hour

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    I put over 600 rounds through my 452 Style this week, just testing different ammo and getting to know the rifle (bought it in March and never shot it much).

    It's accurate, 1 MOA at 100 yards with ammo she likes. :)
     
  5. Simple Man

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    I own several CZ's, rimfires, pistols, centerfires and I feel that I always get more than my moneys worth when I buy CZ. In my honest opinion, CZ is leading the pack on the non-custom firearm manufactures.
     
  6. grimjaw

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    Somehow or another, I've ended up with 3 CZs. :uhoh:

    CZ 452 Varmint .22WMR
    CZ 527 Carbine 7.62x39

    and now, CZ 527 Varmint .223, H-S Precision Kevlar stock, and ain't it pretty?

    jm
     

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  7. Simple Man

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    Those are some mighty fine rifles. I have the CZ 527 in .223 too but your twist rate is different than mine. Mine is one real shooter now.
     
  8. adirongdackguiding

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    Problems with a CZ

    Hi everybody - hate to be the fly in the ointment but I just picked up a CZ452 in 17HMR and the bolt was a little sticky at the gun shop. I was told it would work in. Although I didn't like the idea of leaving with a new gun with a sticky bolt I figured they knew what they were talking about. Got it home and started working it back and forth. As I did it became increasingly difficult to operate. I checked to make sure it was oiled - it had a light coat so that wasn't the problem. After a couple of dozen cyclings I was no longer able to operate it mounted at my shoulder it bound up that much. I read the post about having to know how to operate a bolt action. I guided for several years in the Adirondacks in NY. I've taken over 40 deer myself as well as 6 bear 3 moose and 2 elk and guided clients to over 70 big game kills. I own 17 guns 12 of which are bolts Ruger, Mauser, Winchester, Springfield so I'm familiar with how a bolt action works and have never had the binding that this CZ has. I'll be back at the shop with it Monday and will let you know the outcome. I would guess I got a lemon from reading the other posts but over the years I've owned in the neighborhood of 100 different rifles and have never had this severe a problem with a new one. In fact I can't think of any used gun I bought that had this bad a bolt problem. They had to order the CZ. It was the first gun I have bought unseen and will probably be the last.

    Now before I bring down a volley of angry emails from CZ lovers (the gun looks nice, feels nice and comes to point of aim with no effort) I'm not knocking CZ - just this gun in particular AND the advisability of purchasing sight unseen.

    I'll let you know what their reaction is on Monday
     
  9. unloaded

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    I've got a 452 American 22lr, very accurate on the bench right out of the box. Added a scope and triger kit from Eric Brooks. I've took it hunting tree rats a few times and don't really care for how it points shooting off hand. I'm thinking of getting a Scout for that, they point real nice for me. I'm lucky that there is a gunshop about 30 miles from me that cares almost all of CZ's line. I noticed on Rimfirecentral a lot guys from all over order from them too, here is a link to them:
    http://www.whittakerguns.com/

    peace.
    unloaded
     
  10. BigG

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    You can bind any turnbolt action. I don't think that's a reason to disqualify a CZ - it's part of the action type, including genuine Mausers.
     
  11. Z_Infidel

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    adirongdackguiding: Check my previous post to this thread dated 9/25. I originally had the same reservations about my CZ550FS, but have since realized there is nothing to worry about with my particular rifle. I'm not saying the same is true with yours, but maybe...
     
  12. mp510

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    I shoot a CZ 452-2E-ZKM, the Trainer model. I love that rifle, it's robust and very accurate. Looks beautiful to boot and the price new really isn't that bad. However, on that model atleast, you need to use high scope rings for bolt handle and sight clearance. I use see-throughs, and get the benefit of sights an d a scope:)

    The bolts are rough on some of the rifles. Some are better than others. Some will wear in as well. That's what happened on the Walther Target rifle that I shot that uses a CZ action. If possible, feel the bolt. If you have a choice, get one that's smoother.

    Overall, I say they are a good value for the money. Everyone I know that has one is happy.

    Oh, and did I mention, the 5 round mags are steel!
     
  13. Tob

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    Love my 452 22LR!
    Good feel, good shooter, and good price.
     
  14. rangerruck

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    my cz 527 is tight, tight to feed the bolt, I usually thumb direct it from the rear, and you can def feel the tightness when chambering a round. is it a one hole punch? you be the judge. these are 100 yd shots. Will I ever sell it? I'd rather eat a baked [email protected]#$%t pie first.
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    this is a 1/12 twist, so notice how the groups got smaller as i got to the 45 grainers.
     
  15. Afy

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    +1 for CZ I really enjoy shooting mine..
     
  16. Buckman

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    As of today, I own 5 CZ's.............you could say I like them.

    452 fs 22lr
    452 style 22lr
    452 trainer 17hmr
    452 American (maple stock) 22lr

    550 fs .243 win
     
  17. CZguy

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    It'll get worse. Buy a bigger safe. :D
     
  18. 351 WINCHESTER

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    I have 2 cz rimfires, a scout and a 17hmr American. I prefer carbines so the scout was a natural, besides in a .22 anything over 16" is just a waste of gun metal. The bolt is a little stiff, but is smoothing out as time goes by. Talk about accurate - it's the most accurate rimfire I own, bar none. Upon constant instistance from my youngest son I finally got a 17hmr. What a hummer. It's too powerful for squirrel's and such, but for crow's it is amazing. The bolt on the 17 is smoother than the scout. Triggers on both have no creep whatsoever and are as accuracte as the day is long. In my humble opinion the 452 series are a best buy. The only "problem" I had was with remington's tunelacated bullet as they would not feed from my scout. You can't go wrong with the 452 series!
     
  19. MinScout

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    I have a CZ 527 7.62x39 carbine, which I love. I also have a 452 American 17 HMR, which is ok, but needs trigger work. The CZ 550s I've handled at gun shops seemed rather clunky to me and just did'nt fit me well.
     
  20. CZguy

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    That's not really a problem if you can afford $14.00 for a Brooks trigger kit.

    http://cz452.com/springkit.html

    Stop by rimfire central to read more about them.

    http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18
     
  21. claiborne

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    Oops

    In my last post I misstated that the 19 badger rifle I ordered was a CZ 452. It is a CZ 527 .22 hornet action. The round is a 30 carbine necked to 19 caliber. 32 gr pill at about 3600 fps. This is a smoking hot laser cannon on rockchucks and coyotes. It is now my favorite rifle period. i managed to aquire one more as well since my last post. It is a 550 FS 30-06 with a LUX stock. Very very nice. So now after about 48 different rifles I have owned in my life I now only have these.

    Great Grandfathers Marlin 93, 25-36
    SA M1A Loaded
    CZ 452 Trainer 22 lr
    CZ 452 American 17 hmr
    CZ 527 American James Calhoon Custom 19 Badger
    CZ 550 FS Lux 30-06

    I want to purchase a 527 Varmint .204 this summer.
     
  22. claiborne

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    I acquired a dictionary and slowed down for this post. I have Brooks trigger kits in both of my 452's, smooth and clean. After trying several types of rings, (the CZ rings are UGLY and too tall), on my 527, I ended up using Control bases and rings; these are tough to get situated, but well worth the price of admission. I'll post a couple of pics in a bit. I also have a custom machined lower bolt handle and use a Burris 4.5-14 Short Mag scope. Works like a charm with the low Control rings.
     
  23. Richard.Howe

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    I have two -- a 452 "Super Exclusive" Ultralux .22lr, and a 527 .204 Kevlar varmint. Both are exceptional values. They're also both a little unrefined...then again, a .22 and a varmint gun don't exactly need to be Rolls Royces. For the money, you're not going to find better & more accurate rifles anywhere.

    Rich
     
  24. Richard.Howe

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    Here are some pics taken today of the rifles I mentioned earlier:
     

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  25. CZguy

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    Nice Photos

    Good looking rifles.

    You sure can do some long range shooting! The farthest I can shoot here is 250 yards, because of the trees.
     
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