Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

CZ SS guide rod

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by j1979, Sep 8, 2008.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. j1979

    j1979 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2008
    Messages:
    327
    Location:
    Minneapolis
    How many of you CZ guys are using a SS guide rod in your guns? I just put my 14lb spring in and the plastic one is all bent looking and Im thinking about getting the steel one form ghostholster, or am I just thinking too much? Thanks
     
  2. atblis

    atblis Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2005
    Messages:
    4,531
    Location:
    Neither here nor there
    Don't waste your money. The plastic ones work just fine.
     
  3. hags

    hags Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2007
    Messages:
    750
    Location:
    Chain o' Lakes, Illinois


    You'll get nowhere with a common sense approach like that.:D
     
  4. burningsquirrels

    burningsquirrels Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2008
    Messages:
    1,562
    Location:
    Georgia
    plastic ones work fine, just like the one in our uspsa limited-minor and pin/plink night sp-01. leave it.
     
  5. stevemis

    stevemis Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    771
    Agreed with everyone else. Plastic is fine. I've got a bunch of CZ's that get shot often and hard... none of my plastic guides are worn yet. Remember this rod's only job is to hold the recoil spring in place. There aren't any significant forces applied to it.

    A stainless steel rod might be harder than the pistol's frame. This is especially the case in alloy pistols like the P01. Also, in shorter pistols (like the P01) I think the rod will tilt a little during cycling. Sounds like a recipe for trouble.

    My Colt Mustang PocketLite has a plastic rod. The P01's have plastic rods. Both guns are alloy frame. I suspect CZ and Colt are doing this for a reason.

    If you EVER wear out a rod, CZ will probably mail you a new one. They might want your old one so they can frame it and hang it on the wall in the office, though.

    It ain't broke. Don't mess with it.
     
  6. j1979

    j1979 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2008
    Messages:
    327
    Location:
    Minneapolis
    Thanks for the help
     
  7. NG VI

    NG VI Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2007
    Messages:
    4,884
    Location:
    Maine
    My 40B has a steel guide rod, my 97B (bought very gently used) came with a Jack Ash steel guide rod and the original, plus an 18# recoil spring, and my Kadet Kit has a steel guide rod because I lost the original and CZ-USA has still not sent me the replacement I ordered months ago.

    But my PCR still has its plastic guide rod.
     
  8. 1 old 0311

    1 old 0311 member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2005
    Messages:
    2,672
    Location:
    Planet Earth
    At czshooters I think it was Viking that posted pictures of 5-6 broken/worn/trashed plastic rods. For the casual shooter you don't need a stainless rod. If you shoot a lot, or carry, it does give you piece of mind.
    I use them in all my CZ's, including the Kadet.
     
  9. schmeky

    schmeky Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2006
    Messages:
    2,190
    Location:
    West Monroe, Louisiana
    I have about 3K through my SP-01, about the same through my 97. My G17 has about 2K through it. All have the plastic guide rods. No problems.

    I think the majority of autos now use plastic guide rods. The manufacturers know what they're doing.
     
  10. BlindJustice

    BlindJustice Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2007
    Messages:
    2,798
    Location:
    Pullman, WA
    YEah the manufactueres are saving money

    ANd what kinda argument or knowledge of the
    mechanics justifies a SS guide rod beating on the
    frame? The guide rod matches up with forged
    barrel which makes imo the plastic guide rod in a
    heavy use - heavy in single range sessions = heat
    suspect to ME. and the cost is so low anyway,
    pretty silly not to swap for one

    Randall
     
  11. Zesty

    Zesty Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2007
    Messages:
    69
    Location:
    Central Coast California
    My CZ75b in .40 has a metal(stainless?) rod, and my SP01 has a plastic one.

    The 2 things I prefer with the 75b are the trigger, and the fact it has a metal guide rod. I'm sure there's a reason for it but in my ignorance I would sleep better at night with metal.
     
  12. atblis

    atblis Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2005
    Messages:
    4,531
    Location:
    Neither here nor there
    I run all my CZs with stock spring weights, stock guide rods, and factory mags. They flat out work. Never had a guide rod fail. I have minimal/no problems.

    It'd be "pretty silly" to start fixing things that aint broke.

    EDIT
    I'd wager that they're getting damaged during assembly/disassembly/cleaning.
     
  13. armoredman

    armoredman Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2003
    Messages:
    16,438
    Location:
    proud to be in AZ
    I have put thousands of rounds through my PO1, no damage to the guide rod. I had a SS guide rodin my dearly departed PCR, could never really tell any differance, but it also didn't do any harm. if you want one, get one, but it really isn't neccesary, as far as I can tell.
     
  14. bruss01

    bruss01 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2005
    Messages:
    626
    Do the plastic rods work? Yes they do.

    Do the metal rods work better? No, not really.

    Do I insist on stainless guide rods in all my CZ's? Yes, I do!


    It doesn't have to be logical or rational. Does the stripe on a racing car make it go faster? No, but they still paint them on, don't they?

    I want the personal satisfaction and pride of ownership from having an all-steel pistol with no plastic parts. That's all.
     
  15. eerw

    eerw Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2003
    Messages:
    730
    Location:
    AZ
    just watch your guide rod..if the plastic starts peening away..get a new one or replace with a metal one. CZs come in all flavors..some have plastic, some have metal. doesn't hurt anything either way.
     
  16. Average Joe

    Average Joe Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2005
    Messages:
    1,209
    Location:
    Easton, PA
    Plastic works just fine.
     
  17. everallm

    everallm Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2007
    Messages:
    1,504
    If you want to buy one do it, will you see practical advantages, unlikely.

    Remember the caveat on the web site

    Full length steel guide rod for the CZ 75/85 family
    These have been modified to fit in the Sp01, CZ 75 without further modification
    These may be a little awkward to install using the Flat Wire Spring
    We suggest purchasing the Wire Recoils Spring

    The Flat on the back of the guide rod needs to be aligned with the feet of the barrel for installation
    Slide must already have the hole drilled for long guide rod.


    So I would recommend giving them a call first and make sure you are good to go.
     
  18. HorseSoldier

    HorseSoldier Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2006
    Messages:
    5,297
    Location:
    Anchorage, AK
    I have steel in my P-01 and the OEM plastic in my SP-01. Both have been 100% reliable. I went with the steel in the P-01 to get a bit more weight up on the nose for muzzle climb issues.
     
  19. skers69

    skers69 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2006
    Messages:
    254
    Location:
    Kansas City
    I was kind of hung up on my PCR having a plasitc guide rod. It has been three years and an estimated 7000 rounds and I still have not gotten around to replacing it with the steal rod. Part me being lazy and part the rod not showing any wear and tear. Do what is best for you the cost is nominal.
     
  20. j1979

    j1979 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2008
    Messages:
    327
    Location:
    Minneapolis
    Im just gonna keep the plastic one unless it starts to give me problems.
     
  21. Fishfosh

    Fishfosh Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    1
    I didn't care for the plastic one and made my own from 303ss. I beefed up the OD to keep the spring straighter and create more spring tension.
    CZp01
     
  22. 1SOW

    1SOW Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2007
    Messages:
    4,106
    Location:
    South Texas
    WELL Over 4000 rds in a 75B--so far so good.

    bruss01 : Have you got steel grips and mag followers?
     
  23. NG VI

    NG VI Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2007
    Messages:
    4,884
    Location:
    Maine
    1SOW- Of course he does.
     
  24. bruss01

    bruss01 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2005
    Messages:
    626
    You got me there, buckaroo.

    I have black rubber grips (which seem appropriate on this stainless pistol) and the magazines don't strike me as being an issue. I'd like it if they weren't plastic, but it doesn't bother me enough to do anything about it. I admit, that's an inconsistency. I still like the ss guide rods better than the plastic ones. It's simply a personal preference.
     
  25. tblt

    tblt member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2007
    Messages:
    954
    Location:
    florida
    You beefed it up at work.
    Did it damage your gun after beefing it up?????
    A guy I worked with made one but had to rework it because it was a little big on his first try?
    I don't like plastic either,I will make one for my CZ RAMI when I get one.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page