CZ Trigger??

Status
Not open for further replies.
B

Buster_NW

Member
Joined
May 1, 2007
Messages
14
Hey All,

I know there are a lot of CZ fans on this site, so I thought I'd consult you all on the sole concern I have with my new 40P: THE TRIGGER FEELS AWFUL! It has about 1/4" of regular trigger creep before going into another 1/4" of gritty creep...all in SA mode.

All-in-all, I love the gun. Fit and finish are all first rate, as are the sights, and the ergos. I just want to touch base with all you 40P/P-01 owners out there to see if I got a lousy trigger or if it will work itself in over time.
 
With the exception of the Colt Python, all new firearms require a trigger job, out of the box, due to frivolous law suits.
"...work itself in over time..." That is wear on the trigger parts. Have a trigger job done by a competent smithy.
 
You have two choices, lube it with a lithium grease (I like the one I get from Champions Brand) and shoot or dry fire it 3,000 times.

Or send it to someone like Angus Hodbell or Mike Mink and have them do a trigger job.
 
You have two choices, lube it with a lithium grease (I like the one I get from Champions Brand) and shoot or dry fire it 3,000 times.
Click to expand...
The whole idea is ware in the sear and If you lube it with a good lube, it will slow the ware in.
 
owners out there to see if I got a lousy trigger or if it will work itself in over time.
Click to expand...

The trigger on my 40P is also pretty bad.

I did a little shooting with my eyes closed to see if the trigger seemed to give me any trouble. No problem to speak of.
I intend to just shoot it a while and see if it improves, or I get used to it.:)

CZ40P10ydseyesclosed.gif
 
Pretty impressive for eyes closed @ 10 yards!

I was rummaging and I thought I found some good grease. Turns out it was liquid nails. Then I ran across a tube of some good stuff. "A long lasting, extreme pressure, multi-purpose, water-repellant, lithium type grease. Ideal for general lubrication of all types of locks, latches, hinges, tools and other equipment. Prevents wear, rust, and corrosion. N.L.G.I. Grade No. 1"
 
They CZ are general issue military and police guns. Don't expect them to rival the SIGs for triggers. The best way is to dry fire (with snap caps or the enclosed fake cartridges) or to just get out and shoot it.
 
LOL. I believe I shall forgo the mad scramble for white lithium grease and plan to have a trigger action job done on my CZ 75B after I pick it up from my FFL. I've never fired one. I based my decision on how it felt in my hand at a gun show and the consistent positive reviews I've read and heard about it.

White lithium grease? Would petroleum jelly, Vick's Vapo-rub, or K-Y Jelly work in a pinch?
 
I hated that gun the couple months I had it. Horrible trigger, bad gritty creep and trigger slap that made my finger sore. Didn't care for the shape of the trigger either.

What I don't understand is it's actually a P01 with 40B slide on it. So shouldn't the trigger be the same as the vaulted P01?
 
They CZ are general issue military and police guns. Don't expect them to rival the SIGs for triggers.
Click to expand...
Actually, my CZ 75B SA .40 has better trigger than any of the Sigs I've ever shot.
 
Actually, my CZ 75B SA .40 has better trigger than any of the Sigs I've ever shot.
Click to expand...
+1. About equal (though different) to a SIG, IMO, in terms of trigger feel. Price notwithstanding. Though I also love a SIG.
 
LOL. I believe I shall forgo the mad scramble for white lithium grease and plan to have a trigger action job done on my CZ 75B after I pick it up from my FFL.
Click to expand...
+1 to cancel your -1 for the mad scramble! :D
 
...plan to have a trigger action job done on my CZ 75B after I pick it up from my FFL.
Click to expand...

Oh just a piece of advice some smiths will deliver it with a 13lb main spring that makes the double action pull feel like magic, but it has problems with light strikes on anything but Federal Primers (around 1-3% failure rate with Winchester, more with CCI). I found that the 15lb spring reliably runs all but the hardest primers (haven't found one that doesn't work).
 
My CZ75B trigger was grittier than Rooster Cogburn when I got it and I was sorely disappointed. On one of the CZ-specific forums there was a good write-up on a home trigger job. Simply polishing the sear, hammer hooks, disconnector, etc. with 400/600 grit sandpaper made a huge difference for me. Removing the sear and hammer for this polishing is real simple.

I also spent some time shallowing the sear angle to reduce that annoying rearward hammer travel during the first part of the trigger pull. The sear is kind of soft, so it would be easy to overdo this if not careful. I shortened the hammer hooks just a bit (the hammer steel seemed harder than the sear, so it took a some time) and this also helped with the creep. I did the sear and hammer modifications at my own risk, but I’m very glad I did.

Even if you just do the polishing, it's definitely worth the hour or so involved.

I’ve also experimented with lighter hammer springs. A 13 lb spring made for a great DA pull, but about one in 50 Winchester primers would fail to ignite. I went to a 15lb spring, and its been 100% for the last 1000 rounds or so. Worth the five bucks.

The trigger is now the nicest DA/SA trigger I have ever owned, and I like it much better then my Glock 34 or professionally-modified 2.5 lb XD trigger.
 
For info on tuning your CZ go to:

http://czforum.com/

To get a first-rate trigger job and make your CZ slicker than greased *** **** go to Angus at:

http://www.czcustom.com/

For a good grade of white lithium grease use Tetra Grease. I get mine from Cheaper Than Dirt for about $4 an ounce. An ounce will last you about 10 years if you use it on one gun once a month.

As long as the temp is above freezing all my self-stuffers are lubed with Tetra. That's most of the year because I live in the hottest desert in North America...
 
On my czs I took them apart and polished where the hammer and sear meet. Didn't change any angles just polished. I then went with 15lb. hammer springs which work great. Do a search on the cz forum for pics on taking your gun apart. Mark
 
Last edited:
I like CZ handguns, but the triggers are all over the place. A buddy has a CZ 75 Compact that has a smooth, sweet trigger and it's never been touched by a gunsmith. He also has a 75B that has a fairly good trigger that's never been touched.

OTOH, my SP01 has the worst trigger I've ever encountered on a handgun. It's gritty from start to finish, has tons of creep, and has a couple of sticky points where it binds a bit. It's the most accurate handgun I own, but the trigger is positively NASTY.

Compounding the situation is that there are very few gunsmiths who know how to do a proper trigger job on CZ's unusual trigger mechanism. There are a few big name smiths who work on CZ's (Angus Hobdell, Matt Mink, Jim Miossi, Mike Eagleshield), but they charge big $$$ and have long wait times. I posted a message in the THR gunsmithing forum a few days ago asking about anyone who can do a trigger job on my SP01 and the only response I got was a recommendation on Matt Mink.

Folks that work on handguns need to realize that CZ's are growing in popularity and learn how to work on them. The lack of decent CZ gunsmiths is ridiculous and the primary reason that I only own one CZ handgun.
 
Folks that work on handguns need to realize that CZ's are growing in popularity and learn how to work on them. The lack of decent CZ gunsmiths is ridiculous and the primary reason that I only own one CZ handgun.
Click to expand...
So, learn how to work on them! There's plenty of resources on the CZ forum to do it yourself. Once I pick my CZ 75b up, if the trigger is bad the first thing I'm gonna do is a home trigger job.
 
Ain't gonna happen. I have the mechanical skills of a gorilla and no desire to change. I'm perfectly happy to pay someone to work on my guns. But finding a quality gunsmith to work on a CZ handgun is an exercise in frustration.

My local gunsmith did a superb trigger job on my CZ 527 rifle but he refused to touch the handgun.

:(
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

ugaarguy
  • Locked
CZ 40 B vs. P
Replies
4
Views
1K
rde
R
H
  • Locked
New CZ-40P owner with Questions
Replies
5
Views
1K
armoredman
armoredman
G
  • Locked
I Got A Real Cz-40p Pic From Czub!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Replies
18
Views
1K
Tropical Z
T
spencerhut
  • Locked
CZ-75 SP-01 Creapy Trigger
Replies
9
Views
918
HorseSoldier
H
S
  • Locked
CZ 75B or CZ 75B SA?
Replies
19
Views
3K
JR24
JR24
Back
Top