CZ Trigger??

[SwampWolf]

There's really no excuse for CZ not rectifying a trigger problem that they have known about for years . Why should a customer have to deal with a trigger issue upon the purchase of a new pistol when all the manufacturer has to do is build them with acceptable triggers? Is the making of a decent trigger too complicated for them?

The trigger on my new 85B was absymal from the get-go. Though I read with great scepticism from owners on various sites that repeated dry-firing would help the trigger-pull immensely, I tried it and was amazed at how much improvement was realized after pulling the trigger on an empty chamber a couple hundred times. Still, there's really no excuse...

 

[TMann]

I guess that the best option might just be to buy a used CZ and hope that someone else has worked all of the grittiness out of the trigger. I just picked up a used black 75bd this afternoon, and when dry-firing, the trigger feels pretty smooth.

Of course, I learned to shoot on Glocks, so my opinion may not worth that muchl.

TMann

 

[Ops Officer]

RNB65, I once had the name of a gunsmith south of Richmond who specialized in CZ and I assumed he also worked on CZ pistols. But I misplaced his name. Did you ever find anyone in VA who works on CZ pistols? The reason I ask is because I just picked up a new CZ 75B in satin nickel. I've yet to even field strip it. When I dry-fired it, I wasn't impressed with the take-up and reset of the trigger as well as the stiffness.

 

[CZF]

The 75B SA models are not classified military/police guns. It is a entry level competition gun, designed to give Champion or other premium CZ race gun performance at a budget price. Something it does nicely!

Shoot a 75B Turkish Mil or other blued 75B, then try your SA. You will see that
there is a BIG difference in triggers.

 

[P. Plainsman]

I like CZ handguns, but the triggers are all over the place. A buddy has a CZ 75 Compact that has a smooth, sweet trigger and it's never been touched by a gunsmith. He also has a 75B that has a fairly good trigger that's never been touched.

OTOH, my SP01 has the worst trigger I've ever encountered on a handgun.

There can be a difference between metal-trigger CZs like your buddy's 75B and 75 Compact; and newfangled plastic-trigger CZs like the P-01 and SP-01. The metal-trigger ones tend to improve quickly with use even if the feel is sketchy out of the box. Metal parts rubbing against metal parts promotes wear-in.

Non-metal trigger against metal parts doesn't wear the same way. Many CZ afficionados say it takes a lot more use (or some voodoo from a skilled CZ gunsmith) to slick up a P-01 or SP-01 trigger.

That said, they can improve. My P-01 had a heavy, rough DA trigger out of the box. 2,100 rounds later it's got a fairly heavy, but smoother DA. The SA trigger is quite decent, with precise reset. The P-01's trigger feel is still not as nice and slick as my well-used 75B (again - steel frame, metal trigger), but it'll do.

Inherent mechanical accuracy is excellent for a compact, short-barreled pistol. They're just accurate guns.

 

[RNB65]

Did you ever find anyone in VA who works on CZ pistols?

No. I would love to find someone nearby. But all I have are the big 4 I listed above.
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[briang2ad]

Some improve...

1. By a CZ sight seen! Pick one with a decent trigger - they are out there, but you have to look.

2. DA can smooth out, but the SA may never get quite right - even with dry firing. I may soon knock the firing pin block out of two of mine and smooth out their gritty FPBs. The FPB on my XD is 5 times as smooth. There is NO excuse for CZ to keep turning out these poor triggers - they can easily hore someone on the line to stroke the parts a few times with a stone. Poor execution of a great design.

3. The P01 based guns seem to have the worst DA pulls IMHO - the 40P has a P01 frame. To make matters worse, most people cannot detail strip a CZ decocker - it is WAY harder than the manual safety - which is a piece of cake.

 

[hovbuild]

I just did a trigger job on my 75b ss 9mm. Smooth as silk and I also took out most of the camming...The trigger in sa is great, breaks with a crispness that makes my groups much better. It is easy to do and there are instructions with pictures on the CZ forums. You will have to do the hammer hooks with caution and do a little at a time. Also I have shot a 1000 rds through the 9 and have a kadet .22 conversion that after the trigger job and a couple of brick, (standard velocity) is a tack driver. Benched at 25 yds. I get 5 shot groups of 1.25 inches.

 

[Pilot]

Shoot a 75B Turkish Mil or other blued 75B, then try your SA. You will see that
there is a BIG difference in triggers.

I've got a Turkish Mil 75B and its got a great trigger. It was that way from the beginning. Guess I got lucky for once. My 75D PCR on the other hand has an OUTSTANDING trigger, light with a clean break. Both are excellent.

 

[Ops Officer]

Quote:
Did you ever find anyone in VA who works on CZ pistols?
No. I would love to find someone nearby. But all I have are the big 4 I listed above.

Waiting now on that lead of a CZ pistolsmith in the Richmond area. Will post it when I get it. If the lead doesn't pan out, I guess I'll send it off to one of the gunsmiths mentioned in this thread.

 

[briang2ad]

CZs don't have plastic triggers...

newfangled plastic-trigger CZs like the P-01 and SP-01/QUOTE]

The Single Action only model used to come with a plastic trigger, but the P01 and SP01 never did. They are black finished, but are metal.

I will admit that many of the P01s I've seen had the worst DA pulls - at least they did a few years back.

You can do much to smooth up the DA pull. The SA is tricky and requires some decent knowledge.

 

[P. Plainsman]

OK. So what's the material coating the P-01 trigger? Feels like plastic. And why don't P-01 actions wear in as nicely as 75Bs with the plain metal trigger? The difference is quite noticeable, in my experience.