Debating which .22lr to get Kel-Tec SU22, Ruger 10/22

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I think I'd plan to get the ruger in the tactical stock btw.

I like the looks of the SU-22 more, however I love how the 10/22 can accept a variety of magazines and other modifications.


which is more reliable? I'm thinking Ruger based off of my experience with their MKIII which is awesome. I shot over 1000 rounds through that without cleaning and it still worked excellent. Tried it with my 702 plinkster and after the first hundred rounds or so it started to malfunction.

So if Rugers 10/22 is anything like their MKIII series that would be a huge plus. I'm assuming they are. But if the Kel Tec is just as reliable I might go with that. Idk.... They both seem to be around the same price range.
 
If you want a rifle to "dress up" and make look Tacti-Cool either rifle lends themselves well to that. Given a choice between the two? I would likely grab the Ruger 10/22.

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Love my Ruger 10/22. My wife and son love theirs also!! In a lot of years I think I had 1 or 2 feed jams and that was with very old ammo.
 
45223,

I'd recommend the 10/22. The gun has had 50 years of production to beat any bugs out of it, plus there's a world of after market accessories for you.

Buy the Ruger and don't look back,
 
You mentioned tactical stock, might consider S&W 15/22. Controls are the same as an AR and it accepts aftermarket AR triggers.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by debate? KT firearms are iffy at best, so not sure what exactly it is that you need to debate.

As others have already stated...the 10/22 is the standard for 22LR semi. The 10/22 is to 22LR as AR15 is to 223/5.56.

Pass on the MP15/22...it may look like an AR15, but it feels cheap.
 
My honest opinion? Neither, and get a Savage 64. It's a lot more accurate than a 10/22 out of the box. As a base, unmodified gun, it's better.

The 10/22 is nothing like their target pistols. They're not quite as reliable and they're a real money pit. This is coming from someone who has spent around $300 to accurize his 10/22. In order to make a 10/22 shoot like a Savage, you'll have to essentially pay for the gun at least twice over. Sure, there's a million different ways to modify it, but I wouldn't buy it again. Only reason I spent the money to upgrade it was because I already had it (birthday present from when I was 15).
 
No doubt about it, you can spend a lot of money on a 10/22 but the notion that it takes $1000 worth of add-ons to make one shoot like a Marlin 60 or Savage 64 is misleading at best. Most of that money won't be making it shoot like a Marlin but in the effort to make the gun unique. For you can buy a $230 carbine, slap on a $200 barrel, install a $40 VQ target hammer and have a semi-auto that will shoot with the best boltguns. What happens is that people buy a cheap barrel and put a whole bunch of crap on the rifle and then claim it's a money pit that shoots like a Marlin.

I'm wondering where all these unreliable 10/22's are.
 
Ive owned several rugers and several su-22 rifles. I like the su-22 better. I like the stock trigger better. They always go bang if the ammo is good. Magazines are high quality. I always scope or red dot mine. I have the folding stock and threaded muzzle.

I would take a Marlin 795 over a stock 10/22 any day as well.
 
What's the intended purpose of the rifle? To look tactical and be reliable?
 
1 more for the 10/22. The only time I have had any issues with it was after not cleaning for several thousand rounds or dirty Remington ammo. It is pretty simple to clean up the trigger as well with just some elbow grease and research. On that note the 10/22 that I have was built in the 70's has had easily over 100k rounds through it and nothing outside of cleaning and doing a trigger job has been done to it.
 
I'm sort of ambivalent about the 10/22, but when the competition is a Kel-Tec suddenly I'm Ruger's biggest fan :eek:
 
I am not a Kel-Tec hater... I have never even owned one of their guns. I think they actually make some pretty cool and innovative weapons that I would like to give a try one of these days.

For a semi-auto .22 carbine I wouldn't even consider buying a Kel-Tec over buying a 10/22. To me the SU22 is more about looks while the 10/22 is more about function. If your ultimate goal is a tack driver skip the Ruger altogether and just buy a Volquerson 10/22. Same design, same interchangeable accessories and parts but all the upgrades have already been done for you.

I actually own two 10/22's, a feather weight plinker and a heavy barrel bench gun. Both are excellent guns and do an excellent job at what they were built for. Even though they are both Ruger 10/22's they are very different guns and serve very different purposes. If I wanted a menacing looking 22 I could build a 10/22 for that purpose too... if that is what suited my tastes.
 
If you take two box stock 22 one a KT and the other a
10/22 and just start shooting, I'm pretty sure you will get more FTF with the Ruger. I have owned both and have direct experience. By the time I had the ruger the way I wanted it with an extractor and trigger kit, the rifle would cost as much as the KT.

I do like the aluminum receiver for scope mounting over the KT polymer, but both work.
 
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