Deer Gun and Recoil

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Weatherby Vanguard in 270. I've owned several other deer rifles but never had a 270 before. Found a used one with a bushnell 3x9 scope for $350. Went home and did some research on them. Went and bought it the next day. They guarantee the 1.5" at 100 yards and thats what it shoots if not better. Recoil is perfect not too strong but strong enough. I don't even think I'm that good of a shot but I am dead on with this. Couldn't be more happy with this gun. I buy and sell alot of guns but this gun isn't going anywhere but back in the woods with me. Don't know your price range but they are close to $700 new and worth it but look around for a used one. I like the 270 because it shoots a flat bullet. Always use hornady ammo. Hope that helps
 
Don't know your price range but they are close to $700 new and worth it but look around for a used one.
Did you change the subject, because a Vanguard isn't close to $700.00USD unless it is a Deluxe version. :confused:
 
I was going to say just keep the 35 remington and get comfortable with it.

Instead, I'll just say this: Respect your elders.
 
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I like the .308 myself. It's not a punishing round and is a definite deer stopper and then some. Take a look at the CZ line. I settled on a 550 full stock in .308. It's light weight and great balance makes for a good rifle in the woods, open fields, or brush. Another plus are iron sights. Seems most rifles these days are set up for scopes only. The CZ550FS comes with iron sights as well as provisions for a scope.
 
Now that...that is over!

The 7mm-08 choice is spot on! You may be better off to re-think your SPS decision, Remington is having problems now, and the 700 series, not all of them, but most, have been suffering from a plethora of difficulties.

A better choice will be the Savage or the new Winchesters, along with say a, Tikka or Marlin X series.
 
7mm-08. Savage.

Will get it done for anything in the lower 48 (except I might go with a big bore for bison).
 
Go to Wally World and get a Savage .243, they have a package deal right now with scope and all. Its not the best out there, but it will be NEW, and under $400 for everything out the door. Savage has a great reputation for accuracy. It has a synthetic stock so you wont have to be worried about carrying and getting it dirty.

IMHO its the best bang for the buck out there right now for a first rifle. If your new to hunting and firearms, I suggest it because its new, and easy to learn, easy on recoil, and you wont have to worry about other underlying problems you may find in a used rifle. You dont need that in a first rifle. You need to have a good experience with your first rifle, and hunting season. Then you can step up in price range when you are able to do so.

Now get out there, be safe and have good hunt!
 
Hi Vertical
I'm going to take a somewhat different tack and talk about how you should shoot instead of what you should shoot. Any of the above suggestions for a .243/6.5/7mm/.308 will work, but all will give you an unpleasant shooting session depending on HOW you shoot.

When shooting from a bench, you'll see most shooters leaning over the table, with their body oriented toward the target. This position guarranties your shoulder absorbing the most possible recoil. Try to position your body more vertically so that your shoulder can sway backwards with the shot, thus swinging back with the breeze, so to speak. Try kneeling instead of sitting, and standing is even better.

When you buy your rifle, buy one with a ventilated rubber recoil pad already installed. If your rifle doesn't have one, you or a gunsmith can put one on. A DIY pad will only cost you 20-25$. Wearing a shooting vest with a built-in pad helps more. Finally, when shooting, use very good hearing protection. For a loud center-fire rifle, both ear plugs and a pair of ear muffs isn't too much protection. You can practice your basic shooting technique with a .22, then work your way up to the hunting rifle with practice.

What I can promise you though, is once you have that deer in your sights and you pull that trigger, recoil is the very last thing you will notice.
 
If your rifle doesn't have one, you or a gunsmith can put one on. A DIY pad will only cost you 20-25$.


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I have had this slip on pad for around 25 years. It is an old 760 in .308 that has killed lots of deer, maybe 5 elk, 3 moose and a black bear.
 
I'm a big fan of the new generation of recoil pads like the limb-saver or kick EEZ, and I think even Remington makes one called the R3.
 
Well... looks like you have plenty of justification for buying a whole bunch of different calibers.

Now, just be sure and "git-chew one!":D
 
My grand parents on both sides were from NE PA. When I grew up in the 60-70s everybody had either a 30-30 levergun (you pick the manufacturer) or a 30-06 bolt gun.

I'm not a gambler, but I would bet money that if you served a seach warrant on every house in the area, most homes you entered would have at least one if not both of the described weapons with the occasional "exotic" Winchester 270.

Most of these people were not gun people, they worked the mines and hunted and fished to to feed their families. They weren't gun people by any stretch of the imagination. In fact if they were from a little further south they may have and in many cases have been refered to as hillbillies.

Which although like redneck, has become synonimous with WT in some circles, though they have nothing in common with each other. they were upstanding, hard working Americans that took care of their families and used the tools available to do so. There was no money in the budget for fancy Whetherby's and other fine but unnecessary guns.

Hell, there was no money in the budget to buy gun rags to tell these folks that the tools that always brought home the bacon were insufficient and they needed the latest wizzbang magnum to do the job. And in reality thats a good lesson for a lot of us to learn.
 
Well... don't overlook used guns either. Most of mine were used and there are great deals on fine-shooting guns to be had.

Since you've gotten so much info on what to buy, I'll weigh in for the 06.

Kills it all, big and small. Great for deer, far and near.

You can take that to the bank!;)
 
Haha Mike....when someone speaks of Remington Mike speaks of Savage. Funny. Can't really go wrong with a Savage though I will agree to that. As for Tikka I'm just not sold on them.

Savage, Remington, or Winchester when you go hunting. 270 or 30-06. I particularly like Winchester for hunting, but they others are fine rifles as well.
 
vertical's rifle choice.

some good advice has been given, some less good advice has also been given.

a remington 700 sps would be an excellant choice. a 7mm08 would be an excellant choice. I use a bushnell trophy 3-9 x 40 and it is a good scope that punches above its wieght and price.

in regards to recoil this is quite a tame set up. the commonly available 140gr loadings from this rifle will be fine. Don't change your shooting positions. stay with the most accurate position possible. practise your breathing, practise your trigger pull.

7mm08 is a great deer round, plus it gives you flexibility to go up to 175 gr bullets for big stuff. I use it. I load 120gr, 130 gr or 145 gr all are great deer killing rounds. It has gained popularity and ammunition is commonly available. I cull quite a few deer from muntjac to reds. i use the 7mm08 for all.

Go with your original ideas. i am sure you wont regret them.

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If you're mostly hunting from a stand and weight isn't an issue I was always partial to the 270 Winchester. If I were to do it over today I'd get that 257 Roberts I always wanted and have it cut to the Ackley Improved and keep my cases.

If you find you will be walking and carrying I would suggest looking for an older Ruger M77RL in 243 Winchester. It was my last deer rifle, a delight to pack around and would shoot 1" groups at 100yds consistently with Winchester 87gr factory loads. It was nice because you didn't shoot clear thru the deer without expanding like you often did with 100gr bullets.

But most anything will bag a deer if you place the shot right so most importantly get a rifle you enjoy and don't concern yourself much with what everyone else in camp uses.

Its the hunt that matters, not the meat or the horns,

TB
 
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