Deputy not too nice...

[JCF]

definitly if not for that surely for something else

LOL!

 

[daniel1113]

Sigh. I don't want to comment more as I really don't have a negative comment for the LEO. If I were the OP, I would have said "Thank you, officer" and continued to do what I wanted with my AR. My only point is that every individual makes decisions regarding his/her property, and the old "it could get stolen" is not enough of a reason to abridge someone's rights if that person chooses to take on that risk.

No one was in the wrong in this situation.

 

[moooose102]

part of it is you are young, and as such, are quite unpredictable. the majority of people who get into trouble, do it, when they are young. for a number of reasons. one is you lack real life experience, another is you are quite emotional, your body is still surging with all the chemicals and hormones that turn you into a man. these also cloud your judgement. dont believe me, ask your dad, a colledge professor, anybody older who has a decent amount of life experience. the cop probably saw you as a dumb a$$ punk kid. which is to bad, because he does not know you personally. but he does see every day, young people do stupid things, and throw their lives away. it is sad, that all of these thing happen. just try to remember, that he is human also, and as such, can make mistakes, like any other human. but, he is speaking from experience also. i know, when my boy grows up, i will do everything in my power to keep him from carrying a gun on his person untill he is at least in his mid twenties. by then, most of the chemicals and hormones have settled down, and a person can think clearly again. i know, at one point, when i was young, i could have VERY EASILY COMMITTED MURDER. i was very fortunate to not have gotten the information until the problem was after the fact by almost a year. otherwise, it would have happened. i still, to this day, think the no good deserved to die. but i am glad i didnt throw my life away doing it.

 

[BigGunsMoreFun]

Easy Solution

I have my gun rack mounted on the back of the seat in my truck. That way my guns are accessible when needed and completely out of sight when the truck is closed and locked.

I think the cop could have been more tactful with his advice but we all have a bad day now and then. Give the cop a break. If he starts pulling you over and hassling you needlessly in the future, then I'd file a formal complaint. In a round about way he gave you good advice. I would heed it.

Molon Labe,
Joe

 

[RP88]

if you like that AR-15, I'd store it somewhere else, unless you have brick-proof windows.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

big guns did you buy that rack or rig it up yourself? i want one like it i have a 200 dollar level i wanna keep

 

[siglite]

An EBR in the back window of the truck is sadly an open invitation to a LEO giving you a hard time

And therein lies the problem. When an officer is trained that "gun" == "crimnal," and actions of people no longer determine status in the eyes of the law, something is broken.

 

[CBS220]

A gun hanging in the gun rack of a truck is a prime target for theft. it may be your right to own it, but that doesn't mean you should brandish an expensive rifle about in public for everyone to see!

That's simply asking for trouble.

 

[copper4262]

Its a sad thing that society has crumbled to a point where we even have to debate or discuss something like this -

Its sad that we have to worry about locking our valuables(including guns) up in our vehicles and homes because we worry they will be stolen -

Its sad that most people in society will look at an AR in someones truck and be scared. Its sad that people look at someone with a decked out 10-22 as see a criminal or a whacko -

Its sad - but its the way life is in America -

I own weapons that would be considered EBR's - guess what - iv never committed a crime with any of them and i have no plans to do so in the future - But i still dont advertise that I have them - am i proud to own and use guns?? yes - and im the first to tell others about the virtures of gun ownership and responsible use - but i still dont think its a good idea to advertise my AR's or my other EBR's - if im loading up for a day at the range you will probably see me carring out a couple of dark bags - do my neighbors know i have guns - probably - but im still not going to advertise it - Its just not smart -

Im the first one to start spouting off about rights and freedom - but that doesn't change the fact that advertising your weapons isn't smart - its sad that socitey has come to this point - but it has -

If the cop was rude - well that sux - cops should be polite and courtious - but some aren't - not everyone is nice and not everyone knows how to interact with people in a polite fashion - also - as a LEO i know first hand how easy it is for people to take offense to what i say or do while on the job - some people just dont like to be told what to do - if the cop was rude - well - that sux - thats too bad - it shouldn't happen that way - iv worked with people who can't seem to ask for a driver's license on a traffic stop without insulting someone - sad - but thats the way it is - personally i try hard to be polite and treat others with respect - but then again alot of people just dont like to be told what to do - even fewer people like to be given advise - im not sure why that is - thats another thing about society that i think it just plain sad! was the cop merely trying to give you advise and had a poor way of dishing it out??

 

[Jamie C.]

I don't think the deputy was invited to the house to dispense his opinions on all that he sees, but to take a police report relative to a single event.

I live in a densely populated area. Hence, I would never put my AR in the rack of my truck outside of my home, even for a moment. Yet there are other areas of my state where I wouldn't think twice about it, because there are probably 5 ppl for every square mile of land. What is the likelihood that a thief will walk by my truck in the window of opportunity after I've arrived but before I'm soon set to leave my home once again when there are so few people in the surrounding area to being with? You people that are criticizing the young man for temporarily storing his rifle in the truck, how do you know this is not true for his case?

If there are only 5 people per sq. mile where the O.P. lives then it shouldn't be too hard to find whoever vandalized his house, should it?

Sorry, but the fact the cop was there to take a report pretty much tells us that there are/were people roaming around the property that weren't supposed to be there already.

And one other thing... we only have the O.P.s word that the deputy was rude, since none of us were there.

Now, I'm not saying he's lying about it, only that it's his interpretation that the deputy was rude. You, I, or his dad might not see it that way.

Think on it a bit.


J.C.

 

[copper4262]

P. S.

Maybe this isn't the right place for this question - but since we are on the topic of storing weapons in vehicle - i too am looking for a way to secure weapons in a truck or other vehicle - i have the usual racks and bags that hang on the seats - what im looking for is more of a small - compact safe type unit that would fit behind the seats or maybe between the front seats - something that has enough room for a compact rifle - ar or ak size etc - and a handgun along with an extra mag or so - anyone with suggestions post here or pm me

thanks in advance

 

[230RN]

Under Colorado Revised Statutes (CRS) Colorado is an open carry state.

No, it's not. There is no CRS that specifically states that open carry is legal. There is no statute that states it's illegal. The state also allows local jurisdictions to regulate open carry - that's why open carry is restricted in most municipal jurisdictions.

NavyLT pointed out:

Absolutely not true. Because Colorado does NOT have a law making it illegal to carry a weapon open is exactly why Colorado IS an open carry state. There are very, very few laws that specifically define an activity as LEGAL. Laws only define what is illegal and what exceptions to those laws are.

The state also does NOT allow local jurisidictions to regulate open carry. The Supreme Court of Colorado has ruled that only Denver can do this, for some reason. Here is the Colorado statute:

Thank you, NavyLT. I did not want to comment on that issue myself.

Ladies and Gentlemen... no, wait, make that Gentlemen. The Lady was a Lady. I don't know what the moderators would say about this, but folks ought to cool their comments down just a wee bit, eh?

You are representatives of the pro-2a crowd.

Make the rest of us proud.

Thank you.

--Terry

 

[32winspl]

Ok, first, I want you to know that I'm not a Cop and neither "play one" on TV nor the web. I'm just a 50 year old Dad and ex-husband, and
I PROFILE NEARLY EVERYONE !!...and I notice things that are "out of the ordinary", be they people or situations... why? Because they ARE out of the ordinary and therefore stand out. You do it too; you do it all the time. Think not?
You see a man walking down the sidewalk in a winter jacket and wearing a knit cap, hands in his pockets; but it's 80 degrees out and the sun is shining. Be it right, wrong, politically-incorrect, or even illegal for you to profile... if that put you the least bit on edge, you just (wisely, I think) profiled someone. He may have a completely legit medical reason for being dressed that way and you may be waay off base in your assessment. But maybe not.
You pull up to your neighborhood 7-11 at 11pm for a gallon of milk and see 2 17 year old guys in tanktops, covered in tatoos and piercings, and sporting multicolored mohawks standing on either side of the front doors. They might be waiting on "Mom" to come pick them up after a movie. But something just doesn't quite "feel right", and you drive a mile further away to the Circle K. You just profiled.
My point is this. If you are at all aware, you notice things that stand out as being "out of the ordinary", because they are, and you alter your actions accordingly.
Now, back to the original post(er). Granted, your AR15 is legal; as is you're keeping it in a rifle rack in the back window of your pickup. Granted further that any knowledgeable person will reasonably believe that it is just another semi-automatic rifle, and that neither it's shape or color makes it any more dangerous than any other semiauto rifle. You may look like Wally Cleaver and have graduated at the absolute top of your class. But THAT rifle, displayed openly in your back window, IS going to draw attention; everytime, everywhere, and from everyone, without fail.... from gun-loving folks, gun-fearing folks, and the Police. That Cop (if you've reported your interaction accurately) could have handled the situation better. But by displaying it as you did, you virtually "begged" to have someone comment on it. Period.
In my State (Wi), believe it or not, it is illegal to carry concealed. In my little town, (Wausau), it IS legal for me to WALK down the street with my 1911 in a holster so that it is in plain view. However, doing so "may" subject me to arrest if another citizen calls the Police about it, due to Public Nuisance and other laws. It is a big gray area, and not something I care to test. The point is that it's going to draw tons of unwanted attention to me.
Your back window display also screams out thieves, "Follow me home. Bet'cha I have other weapons there for you to steal." Further, you will know nothing about them, and you will have at least somewhat educated them about you. Bad idea.
So take the whole thing as an educational experience. Officer Happy may have been a rude prick. But his question regarding "Have you ever had a gun in your face?" is worth thinking about. The 'gun in your face' might not be in the hand of a Cop, but some lowlife that wants yours, and isn't going to let you have the time to use yours.
You "profile" people all the time. You are also being "profiled" yourself.

 

[cpttango30]

Well at least the LEO didn't say "HEY STUPID you know that your just asking for some stupid crack head to steal your Assault rifle, which you really should not own anyways. Maybe I should take it because it is blatantly obvious to me that you two are too da*& STUPID to own one in my eyes."

Could have had went about it in a better way I do not know I was not there. We are only seeing one side of the story. Here we did not get the side of the officer.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should........

 

[Old Dog]

And therein lies the problem. When an officer is trained that "gun" == "crimnal," and actions of people no longer determine status in the eyes of the law, something is broken.

WRONG. Officers are NOT trained that "gun equals criminal." Officers are trained that "gun warrants caution."

 

[CBS220]

"gun warrants caution."

Which is perfectly reasonable.

Although some cop basher will be along soon to tell us why it isn't.

 

[Art Eatman]

Let's put this ol' hoss in the stable before he's done quit breathin'. The OP has had more than enough good advice about his lack of wisdom.