Did any guns hit the $1000 mark back "in the day"?

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It's extremely common for people to own $1500+ rifles, $700+ handguns, $1000+ shotguns nowadays, but I was sitting here munching on a ice cream sammie (vanilla on vanilla, btw) and reading the prices people paid 30, 40, 50+ years ago for new guns, almost none ever went over the $300 mark, it seems finally in the 80's guns got into the $300+ area, and nowadays $300 usually doesn't much.

I was wondering if any older members had bought, seen, known anyone, yadda yadda, back "in the day" who had a gun that cost as much or more than a car? While im sure there were $1000+ guns "back then", I just haven't given this much thought and I don't know of an encyclopedia or almanac that gives the values of guns when they were made, not in current values.

Any stories or help would be appreciated.
 
My mom had a Remington 700 she probably had close to 1k in. I don't know what she paid for the rifle itself, but she had a gunsmith refinish it in a silverish color, had the stock checkered, a weird scope rail that set the scope off to the side a bit and topped with a redfield 3-9x32 scope. In the smithwork alone she had about 500 tied up in it.

I wish I had a pic of, it's a pretty good looking rifle, but when she passed my older brother inherited it(along with several other guns) and it's now tied up in his estate(he passed last Saturday).

Hopefully his wife will pass a few of our mom's guns back this direction, but I'm not counting on it.
 
believe it or not up till the latter part of the 20th century firearms were phenomenally expensive by today's standards when you factor in inflation.

IIRC when introduced the winchester 54 (precursor to the 70) cost about the same as the average worker could make in a month. This is why if you delve into history you find the average citizen mostly relied on cheap simple single shot arms, and this is also why "name brand" arms from this period are so pricy, because they're also very rare. Contrary to popular culture the Winchester isn't the gun that "won the west" but rather it was the simple cheap break action shotgun more often than not, because this was all folks could afford
 
When stationed in Germany in 83 (26 years ago) I paid $1,400 and $1,600 for a Sauer and a Krieghoff drilling and right at $1,000 for a Merkel SXS. Of course all these are well into the 4-5K range now.

It was a good time in Germany; the exchange rate was so good it was cheaper to buy Sako rifles in the Rod & Gun club, about $400, than remington 700's.
 
I recall about 40 years ago that drillings and safari rifles were nearly all more than $1,000.

Not sure if it applies because they were collectibles, but I had a Parker Brothers side-by-side that was appraised at $1,500 in the '70s. I also had an 1860 Army Colt that was appraised at $2,000.

I paid $500 for a Colt Gold Cup, but they were going for about $6 or $700. I also bought a matched pair of Colt Commander and Combat Commander that I paid a bit more than $1,000. But, my rent payment was $200 and my weekly pay was about $250 and I had a lot of disposable income.

Good times, I had a car, a Jeep, a motorcycle and 36 guns... And, I was single...
 
Krochus is right on. What do you mean by $1000? $1000 in 2008 was the equivalent of $136 in 1958.
 
Back when Smith & Wesson .357 Magnums were limited, semi-custom production items, they cost some $135. That may sound cheap, but how long did it take to make $135 back then?
 
My Grandad gave me a Remington 512 on my 12th BD in 1948. Remember he paid 32 dollars for it. Sounds dirt cheap. Back then a job/job paid a buck a hour, a really decent job paid 2.50. Seems today the average guy works about the same number of hours to buy a similar gun as they did back then. The dollars are just worth less. Back then each dollar was backed by precious metal of equivalent value. Today they are backed by credit which is backed by additional credit and then some more credit. Nothing substantial at all.
 
The first brand new pistol I bought was a S&W mdl 19. I paid $250.00 in 1982.

I remember a Winchester 30-30 I picked out for a birthday, somewhere between '75 and '77. It cost less than $100.00.

In the early '80's, I bought Pythons, King Cobras, and 1911's. I paid somewhere around $300.00 to $400.00 for the revolvers, no more than $500.00 for the 1911's.

The last serious WOW deal I saw on a Python, was $525.00, sometime last year. Shoulda, coulda bought that one.

aka108's right though, the dollar is worth less nowadays, so it's all kinda relative.
 
I recall seeing rifles and shotguns in Abercrombie & Fitch that were over $1000. The firm back then was an outdoor store, high end to be sure, not a clothing company trading on their name.

This was back in the early 60s in their Manhattan store, 8 floors of excellent hunting, fishing, sailing, and general sporting equipment. One entire floor was guns only, and this was a big, department store sized, building. They had a custom gunmaker in residence, Griffin & Howe, that may have led to those prices. They were also a noted safari outfitter.

As an obviously poor 14-15 year old, I was treated with extreme respect by all employed there, and allowed to handle the guns. I was very upset when they closed before I was actually able to shop there. I miss it to this day.
 
In 1967 a plain old Browning A-5 12 ga. with a ventilated rib listed for $185 in the Shooter's Bible.

In 1966 I started working part-time at a McDonalds in D.C. for $1.15 an hour. Figure I took home about $1 an hour. Do the math.

Let's see, the cheapest Remington 700 shown is $129. The cheapest BDL is $149.

The most expensive S&W revolver I see is a Model 29 for $150.

Pythons are $130 and Gold Cup National Matches are $140.

When I finished grad school in 1974 and got a career-type job, I started off making $9600 a year. That's $800/mo., a measly $4.62/hr. according to the calculator. Of course, a cheap new Datsun (soon-to-be-Nissan) was only two grand and a six pack of cheap beer was still about a buck.

John
 
This thread sure is bring back some memories!...........I well remember when I started as a rookie LEO........had to buy ALL my own gear, including uniforms. My model 19 (no dash!) ran right at $110 and the S.D. Myers belt rig nearly 90!!

That was just start up cost for a job that paid about 60 bucks a week!

Course one could also buy a spankin' new 2nd gen SAA for a buck and a quarter, a model 29 (also no dash) for the princely sum of $140...........most salaries were around the 3 to 4 grand mark then so figure out the comparison........really not a lot of change, other than the zeros attached to the sum!
 
1967 is the base year for the CPI,

or at least it was, for years. Since I started working that year--i.e., graduated with a BA--I have forever fixed prices from that period as the "real" price of things. FWIW, the current CPI number is about 700--i.e., my 1967 dollars ('68, actually, since I went to graduate school for a year) are now worth about 14 cents.

Numbers from that period include 1) a new Mustang well-equipped (AC, V8 upgraded once, special suspension, auto, FM radio, but no power windows) was 3996 list and purchase 3399--including the MN 3% sales tax; 2) paying 28/32 cents a gallon for regular / premium gas; 3) living on a 325 dollar a month budget for six months, which included 125.00 for a standard apartment next to campus, $45.00 a month for food (my wife worked as a waitress, and would eat at work), and, for two months, the $60.00 / month gas bill when I drove 100 miles daily to my teaching internship. It even included a case of beer a month for entertainment, and we went to the occasional movie, paying $1.00 for admission. 4) The TV was a 12" Heathkit--battery powered, even, and 'transistorized' with six transisters the size of your index finger first joint--bought for $129.00 as a kit.

In the winter of 1968, we bought a closeout Honda 305 (Super Hawk), and got a luggage rack, two mirrors, helmets, and two custom tailored sets of Bates(?) leathers for $800.00. (Best buy I ever made, getting the last 305 from a MN motorcycle dealer in January.)

That fall, I started teaching as a HS English Teacher. I was paid the highest-starting salary in the state for a beginning Master's degree--$7590. I had no long-term debt, and my wife was gone--so I had a $20.00 a week 'entertainment' allowance. My new Nikormat FTN body was $180.00--but a gift from my parents for Christmas; the Nikkor-P 105 I coveted was $180.00 at the local (high-end) dealer, with pseudo discounting. However, he carried me with no interest for three months....

But, I wasn't buying firearms then--it was my hiatus period for the next twenty years.

However, in 1986, I inherited a Win 52B Sporter my uncle had built in 1935, IIRC. Complete with Lyman 'peep' sights, sling swivels, nice wood, and the ebony-tipped foreend. It cost him $54.50; it was the small bore he shot at Camp Perry. It is a 95% rifle now--and a cherished heirloom. That, and the Pre-27 .357 Magnum I inherited as well--3.5", P&R of course, a blued finish that was flawless, and Sanderson grips--got me going on shooting again. I bought my first handgun in 1988--a new SA 1911, mil-spec, and built on what SA then touted as the National Match (spec) frame, nicely blued-- $380.00. The Glock I bought (19) shortly thereafter was $390.00.

Over the years, I spent about $1600.00--perhaps in an average of 1992 dollars--modifying that 1911 into a decent club competition rig with a Bo-Star barrel, a Heine comp'ed fitted barrel, Ed Brown / Wilson parts, etc., etc. As good as it is--it is no better than the $950.00 Kimber STII (10mm) I bought NIB in 2007 for $950.00 plus MN's now-6.5% ST. It certainly isn't as good as the three higher-end custom 1911s Gun Tests recently went over--and those prices averaged about $2600; mine would cost at least 3000-plus in today's dollars.

For firearms today, we have a far-better selection of them in terms of models, and (with the exception of today's political pricing) better values for shooters. The price we pay for this is modern mass-production parts and fitting. Custom guns are a different matter, courtesy of such people as Bill Wilson and Richard Heine.

Jim H.
 
My first .22 lr J.C. Higgins (Sears) cost $12-1960
My first Remington 742 .308 caarbine cost $142. 1966
When I graduated college I purchased a ruger carbine semi.44 mag for my dad $115

Pistol permit came the same year and I purchased a Ruger .357 blackhawk $89

About a year later a Highway patrol S&W 6" for $98

My first used car in 1967 was a 1960 Ford for $115

My starting teachers salary in 1968 was $6400.00
 
I recall about 40 years ago that drillings and safari rifles were nearly all more than $1,000.

Those where the most expensive I remember.

It has already been pointed out, but it is relative to how much you made. I also remember making $1.15 an hour.
So at that rate it seemed that the guns of that day cost about the same as the guns of this day.
If I remember right I was making about $5.00 an hour when I bought my first Combat Commander. I think it was $185.00, you do the math and decide how expensive I thought that gun was.

OK, I did the math, that gun cost me a weeks pay. Most handguns I am looking at today cost way less than that.
 
Most people that were buying guns 40 years ago are making a lot higher percentage of income, relative to the total work force, at 58 than the were at 18. I don't think comparing by how many weeks of pay your first gun cost is viable.
 
I bought a Browning B25 in the late 1970's when I was stationed in Germany. It was rather costly at the time and was about 400 DM but today I have been told it is worth about $13K to $25K depending on the SN and condition. I'll let my son sell it after I am dead and gone.
 
I am reading some of the prices compared to average hourly pay for the average person my age (18-22) at that time and kind of feel better at how much money I make and keep.

A month's worth of money bought a decent hunting rifle back then, where as a month's worth of money for me gets me a Bushmaster.
 
If I recall correctly, the Walther P88 ran upeards of $1k when it was first introduced. The first gun I bought, a Ruger Bearcat, was $32.50 out the door. I still have it, still take it to the range, and still enjoy shooting it more than four decades later. The 50th anniversary commerative Bearcat, by the way, introduced by Ruger last year in a limited run, is going for anywhere from $550 to $660 a pop.
 
Look at the prices of Custom Guns like H&H and you'll see they have never been cheap.

In 1932 a Grade I/Standard Browning Superposed cost $107.50 with no options. A Midas Grade cost $374.00.

According to the the BLS $107.50 = $1669.07 today and $374= $5806.80

If someones got a good condition Midas Grade Superposed from 1932 they want to sell for $5806.80 please PM me!
 
Dunno. Don't own anything that pricey and never will. To each his own, but my guns are tools and the price of many tools today are just ridiculous. YMMV.

I look forward to the day that sanity reigns again.
 
I remember seeing an ad for a local gun shop which had Colt AR-15 Sporters for $236. The year was 1977. Problem was I only made about $2.25 an hour and I just couldn't afford it then.
The next year they were now $299 and by then my brother and I had finally saved up enough money to buy one. Later that same year I picked up a new Ruger 10/22 for $68. The rifle was so accurate that I bought a Weaver K2.5 scope for it, setting me back about $50 for the scope and rings.
 
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