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Did anybody watch "No Country For Old Men?"
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MikePGS
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Sorry to bump an old(ish) thread, but i didn't want to be accused of not using the search function 
I saw this yesterday and thought it was absolutely wonderful. However, as some of the other posters in thread expressed, I have a few questions about the bad guy's suppressed shotgun. It had a huge suppressor on it, really it looked more like a canned ham than anything. The sound it made was by no means a silent puff of air as I have come to expect from watching other movies, but on the other hand the sound was nothing like the report of a shotgun. Has anyone ever made a working suppressor for a shotgun? Also would it be feasible to suppress a slug, since people on this thread have already doubted the ability to suppress buckshot.
I saw this yesterday and thought it was absolutely wonderful. However, as some of the other posters in thread expressed, I have a few questions about the bad guy's suppressed shotgun. It had a huge suppressor on it, really it looked more like a canned ham than anything. The sound it made was by no means a silent puff of air as I have come to expect from watching other movies, but on the other hand the sound was nothing like the report of a shotgun. Has anyone ever made a working suppressor for a shotgun? Also would it be feasible to suppress a slug, since people on this thread have already doubted the ability to suppress buckshot.
PercyShelley
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Lest I be accused of not using the search function, yes, there are such things as suppressed shotguns.
http://www.guns.connect.fi/rs/rifles.html
It's at the bottom.
Just saw the film tonight, and I was impressed.
http://www.guns.connect.fi/rs/rifles.html
It's at the bottom.
Just saw the film tonight, and I was impressed.
Dravur
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If you thought NCFOM was depressing
read Cormac McCartheys Blood Meridian. And I heard they are going to make it into a movie next...
Gonna be alot of shocked people if they stay true to the book.
I read NCFOM before the movie, so I knew how it ended. The people sitting next to us were actually ticked off at how it ended. They were waiting for Tommy Lee to ride in and do a takedown.
read Cormac McCartheys Blood Meridian. And I heard they are going to make it into a movie next...
Gonna be alot of shocked people if they stay true to the book.
I read NCFOM before the movie, so I knew how it ended. The people sitting next to us were actually ticked off at how it ended. They were waiting for Tommy Lee to ride in and do a takedown.
Lightsped
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So I finally saw No Country for Old Men last night. Wow, LOVED the movie! I am from the Texas/Mexico border and this movie was really accurate in look, sound, and feel. Here is a copy/paste of a review I wrote on my personal website.
"I saw No Country for Old Men last night at 6:30pm. Old Country for No Men takes place on the Texas/Mexico border in 1980. The basic story is about a hunter (Llewelyn Moss) who stumbles upon the remains of a drug deal gone bad. From then on, one of the surviving drug dealers (Anton Sugar) is after this man. It is pretty much a cat and mouse game for the rest of the movie. So yes, the story is simple.
What really shines in this movie is the look and feel of Anton Sugar (the pyscopathic drug dealer) as he pursues Llewelyn Moss in search of the missing drug money. Anton Sugar is a really creepy fellow.
As said earlier, this movie takes place in 1980. The guns, cars, clothing, and Texas atmosphere in this movie are 120% right on. Watching this movie gives you a time traveling experience as you go back to TexMex border. NCFOM is not an action packed shootout type movie, but it does feature some good quality gun action. And just wait until you see the unpredictable ending!
I really really enjoyed this movie. It will mean more to those of us from the Texas/Mexico area, but even those of you not from that area will get a nice idea of dangers and characters of the drug war on the Tex/Mex border. I am rating this movie at a very high 9.6 out of 10 (10 being the best). The ONLY downfall to this movie is that it was slow at parts, but that really didn't bother me as I enjoyed the highly developed characters and being in the Tex/Mex border town. I will be buying the DVD."
"I saw No Country for Old Men last night at 6:30pm. Old Country for No Men takes place on the Texas/Mexico border in 1980. The basic story is about a hunter (Llewelyn Moss) who stumbles upon the remains of a drug deal gone bad. From then on, one of the surviving drug dealers (Anton Sugar) is after this man. It is pretty much a cat and mouse game for the rest of the movie. So yes, the story is simple.
What really shines in this movie is the look and feel of Anton Sugar (the pyscopathic drug dealer) as he pursues Llewelyn Moss in search of the missing drug money. Anton Sugar is a really creepy fellow.
As said earlier, this movie takes place in 1980. The guns, cars, clothing, and Texas atmosphere in this movie are 120% right on. Watching this movie gives you a time traveling experience as you go back to TexMex border. NCFOM is not an action packed shootout type movie, but it does feature some good quality gun action. And just wait until you see the unpredictable ending!
I really really enjoyed this movie. It will mean more to those of us from the Texas/Mexico area, but even those of you not from that area will get a nice idea of dangers and characters of the drug war on the Tex/Mex border. I am rating this movie at a very high 9.6 out of 10 (10 being the best). The ONLY downfall to this movie is that it was slow at parts, but that really didn't bother me as I enjoyed the highly developed characters and being in the Tex/Mex border town. I will be buying the DVD."
Dravur
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Anton Chigurh
is the name you are looking for.
Also, notice there will never be a soundtrack album for this movie.... No music at all.
is the name you are looking for.
Also, notice there will never be a soundtrack album for this movie.... No music at all.
Bazooka Joe71
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Anton isn't one of the drug dealers, he's hired hitman looking for Moss...He was not at the shootout(IIRC), he was hired after the money came up missing and Moss' truck was sitting there...Why did he ever go back to give that guy water.
I will be buying the DVD as well.
Zundfolge
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I thought it was an absolutely brilliant film, one of the best I've seen in a long time UNTIL the last half hour when it devolved into an incoherent, pointless, nihilistic, post modernist pile of crap.
But apparently so does the novel its based on, so I guess I can't fault the Coen brothers too much.
Too bad they didn't re-write the ending so that it made some sense and was even remotely entertaining.
But apparently so does the novel its based on, so I guess I can't fault the Coen brothers too much.
Too bad they didn't re-write the ending so that it made some sense and was even remotely entertaining.
atblis
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Yeah
Very good movie. Never even noticed the no music part.
Very good movie. Never even noticed the no music part.
Why didn't he give him water in the first place?
Zundfolge
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He didn't have any.
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I agree with you Zundfolge, to a point. I thought it was decent (not brilliant) and only slightly disappointing up until the last half hour where it was a pile of crap. I normally like the cohen brothers films but I wish I had the time back I wasted on this one.
Lightsped
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I just bought the No Country for Old Men DVD as it just came out today.
I was watching one of the bonus segments and they showed the part where Llewellyn is sawing off the barrel of the Winchester Model 97 shotgun he had just bought.
I wonder what happens to these guns that are "modified" in movies? Do they register them with the ATF, or perhaps they are fakes to begin with? This one sure looked real...
What an AWESOME movie!
I was watching one of the bonus segments and they showed the part where Llewellyn is sawing off the barrel of the Winchester Model 97 shotgun he had just bought.
I wonder what happens to these guns that are "modified" in movies? Do they register them with the ATF, or perhaps they are fakes to begin with? This one sure looked real...
What an AWESOME movie!
Bazooka Joe71
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Just picked up a copy myself.
That is a good question, but I bet it's probably just a fake, or they weld the receiver or something.
That is a good question, but I bet it's probably just a fake, or they weld the receiver or something.
Beagle-zebub
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+1 on the recommendation of Blood Meridian. It's quite possibly the best book I've ever read, and as the son of a librarian, you can be sure I had to do plenty of reading, with or without my consent.
Blood Meridian especially emphasizes the gnostic theme that one of the posters mentioned earlier. The judge was creepy enough when I was still under the impression that he was simply satanic, but when it was made clearer that he was something even bigger than that (see gnosticism), I was genuinely affected.
This book has Walkers and Whitneyvilles, too, though they are grains of sand on a beach in terms of things this book has going for it.
As for NCFOM, my take on it was not that it was addressing the decline of society or border relations, but rather the reality of having no control over your drifting in the ocean of life, whether by your own initiative or through God. For the most part, Anton Chigurh seems to be the embodiment of unstoppable disaster, with his coin-toss schtick underlining the reality of chance being the only thing between you and your downfall. The sheriff finds himself unable to protect Llewelyn from Chigurh, and on a greater plane powerless in the face of what he sees as the decline of his society; he accordingly notes that he had been waiting for God to come into his life, and that He just never did. Llewelyn can run and gun all he wants, but he will never be able to shake Anton et al, and is unable to resist the empathetic impulse to bring water to the dehydrated survivor of the drug shootout. The American guy who is trading with the Mexicans could not stop the drug-deal from going wrong, could not find the money by hiring either Anton or Woody Harrelson's character, and could not keep himself safe from Anton, the unstoppable incarnation of disaster. Harrelson thinks he can deal with Anton, and it is his undoing. The one character who seems to be the master of his own fate is Anton himself, who is eludes the law like a ghost, is his own boss, controls the game despite working alone, and even performs surgery on his own gunshot wounds; even Anton, though, gets nailed in an intersection by another car, a phenomenon entirely out of his hands--in the aftermath or the collision, we see him buy a shirt off of a bystander, just as Llewelyn was forced to do earlier in the story.
I haven't read the book, which could contain plot points that speak against my interpretation. I also wouldn't say that this theme is the only one underlying this book. It's just my two cents, dontcha know.
Blood Meridian especially emphasizes the gnostic theme that one of the posters mentioned earlier. The judge was creepy enough when I was still under the impression that he was simply satanic, but when it was made clearer that he was something even bigger than that (see gnosticism), I was genuinely affected.
This book has Walkers and Whitneyvilles, too, though they are grains of sand on a beach in terms of things this book has going for it.
As for NCFOM, my take on it was not that it was addressing the decline of society or border relations, but rather the reality of having no control over your drifting in the ocean of life, whether by your own initiative or through God. For the most part, Anton Chigurh seems to be the embodiment of unstoppable disaster, with his coin-toss schtick underlining the reality of chance being the only thing between you and your downfall. The sheriff finds himself unable to protect Llewelyn from Chigurh, and on a greater plane powerless in the face of what he sees as the decline of his society; he accordingly notes that he had been waiting for God to come into his life, and that He just never did. Llewelyn can run and gun all he wants, but he will never be able to shake Anton et al, and is unable to resist the empathetic impulse to bring water to the dehydrated survivor of the drug shootout. The American guy who is trading with the Mexicans could not stop the drug-deal from going wrong, could not find the money by hiring either Anton or Woody Harrelson's character, and could not keep himself safe from Anton, the unstoppable incarnation of disaster. Harrelson thinks he can deal with Anton, and it is his undoing. The one character who seems to be the master of his own fate is Anton himself, who is eludes the law like a ghost, is his own boss, controls the game despite working alone, and even performs surgery on his own gunshot wounds; even Anton, though, gets nailed in an intersection by another car, a phenomenon entirely out of his hands--in the aftermath or the collision, we see him buy a shirt off of a bystander, just as Llewelyn was forced to do earlier in the story.
I haven't read the book, which could contain plot points that speak against my interpretation. I also wouldn't say that this theme is the only one underlying this book. It's just my two cents, dontcha know.
Seminole
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But, "they even shot the dog!"
I'm sorry--it had to be said and no one had said it yet!
I'm sorry--it had to be said and no one had said it yet!
Lightsped
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The dog and the other bodies in the desert weren't real at all. They showed them setting those items up in one of the bonus features of the DVD.
adobewalls
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I only saw it once, and maybe I missed it, so forgive me if I missed it, but:
Who got the money?
Llewellyn didn't have it.
His wife said she didn't have it.
Anton walked away from the wreck wthout it.
So who got the money?
Who got the money?
Llewellyn didn't have it.
His wife said she didn't have it.
Anton walked away from the wreck wthout it.
So who got the money?
Beagle-zebub
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Presumably the Mexicans that killed Llewellyn took it back at that point, although it might have been stashed in an airduct or something.
bogie
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The way they get around the NFA guns is that the "gun wrangler" who oversees things is an SOT manufacturer... Hence, they can "make" a gun for a scene, but, IIRC, if it is destroyed within a certain time frame, then there is not a problem with ATF... I suspect that the movie folks get away with a lot that we couldn't...
Could also be that these guys have enough of a backlog that they do a stack of Form 4s pertaining to pieces they've got in stock, and when time comes to where they need one, they "manufacture" it right there - is there a time limit after one receives their paperwork that one has to modify the weapon?
Could also be that these guys have enough of a backlog that they do a stack of Form 4s pertaining to pieces they've got in stock, and when time comes to where they need one, they "manufacture" it right there - is there a time limit after one receives their paperwork that one has to modify the weapon?
boomer1911a1
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Who got the money?
Chigur got the money. (Whoops! SPOLIER ALERT!)
I had to see it twice to comprehend this, but when Ed-Tom (T.L.J.) goes back to the taped-off motel room, he finds the air vent removed (with a coin) implying you-know-who got it. He (Chigur) came back to dispose of Llewelyn's wife months later (and I had to read the book to figure that out ... and why.)
I also had to see it twice to convince myself that, yep, it had no music in it.
IMHO:
This is one of those rare cases where the movie was actually better than the book. (I had a rough time w/ CM's lack of convention, to wit, no quotation marks.)
Yes, the ending was abrupt, but it was (A) true to the book, and (B) perfect for this film. Maybe conclusory music would have helped the whiners on this point figure out when to pack up their spit cups and take their boots off the seat in front of them. If so, just start singing "Love Lift Us Up Where We Belong" right after T.L.J. says "And then I woke up."
The Texana was spot-on: accents, colloquialisms, and the stillness you find in West Texas.
I'm glad it swept the Oscars. It deserved it.
Chigur got the money. (Whoops! SPOLIER ALERT!)
I had to see it twice to comprehend this, but when Ed-Tom (T.L.J.) goes back to the taped-off motel room, he finds the air vent removed (with a coin) implying you-know-who got it. He (Chigur) came back to dispose of Llewelyn's wife months later (and I had to read the book to figure that out ... and why.)
I also had to see it twice to convince myself that, yep, it had no music in it.
IMHO:
This is one of those rare cases where the movie was actually better than the book. (I had a rough time w/ CM's lack of convention, to wit, no quotation marks.)
Yes, the ending was abrupt, but it was (A) true to the book, and (B) perfect for this film. Maybe conclusory music would have helped the whiners on this point figure out when to pack up their spit cups and take their boots off the seat in front of them. If so, just start singing "Love Lift Us Up Where We Belong" right after T.L.J. says "And then I woke up."
The Texana was spot-on: accents, colloquialisms, and the stillness you find in West Texas.
I'm glad it swept the Oscars. It deserved it.
SASS#23149
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Just watched it on the big screen.
Movie never got off the ground,and the ending SUCKED.
I won't watch it on cable re-runs.
Movie never got off the ground,and the ending SUCKED.
I won't watch it on cable re-runs.
zxcvbob
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I think The Mexicans got the money. But I've only seen the movie once a few months ago, and that part of the movie moves along pretty quickly without many details.
Dravur
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just finished another CM book
If you want lots of laughs a la Blood Meridian and NCFOM, then read The Road by the same guy. It is a laugh fest from beginning to end. It is a SHTF book like no other.
It is a short book, but very well done. It will leave you with a sense of bleakness like nothing else.
The father carves wooden bullets so that his revolver can look full.....
Imagine a world where everything is gone....
Now, go for a road trip...
That is The Road.
I am now reading Suttree by Cormac McCarthy. For some reason, I have liked his books.
If you want lots of laughs a la Blood Meridian and NCFOM, then read The Road by the same guy. It is a laugh fest from beginning to end. It is a SHTF book like no other.
It is a short book, but very well done. It will leave you with a sense of bleakness like nothing else.
The father carves wooden bullets so that his revolver can look full.....
Imagine a world where everything is gone....
Now, go for a road trip...
That is The Road.
I am now reading Suttree by Cormac McCarthy. For some reason, I have liked his books.
beretta92d
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never even noticed that he had a silenced shotgun..
the other thing that sucked was how they cut out the scene where Llewellyn was killed..(guess that was where they cut out a shoot out scene too..)
i thought it was a decent movie.but i liked hitman better
never even noticed that he had a silenced shotgun..
the other thing that sucked was how they cut out the scene where Llewellyn was killed..(guess that was where they cut out a shoot out scene too..)
i thought it was a decent movie.but i liked hitman better
Spyvie
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Very good movie.
The mother in law did Llewellyn in, the wifey should have listened.
I can really identify with the Llewellyn character, even though I would have gotten the Mexican some water then contacted the sheriff immediately (OK, so I might have kept he chrome .45) But I would like to think that if faced with ominous bad guys promising to kill me, I'd have a very similar “not if I get you first” attitude.
Very good movie.
EDIT: the DVD is on sale at Circuit City for $13.99
The mother in law did Llewellyn in, the wifey should have listened.
I can really identify with the Llewellyn character, even though I would have gotten the Mexican some water then contacted the sheriff immediately (OK, so I might have kept he chrome .45) But I would like to think that if faced with ominous bad guys promising to kill me, I'd have a very similar “not if I get you first” attitude.
Very good movie.
EDIT: the DVD is on sale at Circuit City for $13.99
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