No Country For Old Men

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Finally got around to seeing this movie, it was really incredible. At one point in the movie Josh Brolin is being chased by what looks like a Pit Bull, he takes his boots off and jumps in the river with the dog following. When he finally comes out of the water with the dog on his heels he drops the mag, cycles the gun to remove the round in the chamber, then slams the mag back in just in time to shoot the dog as it leaps for his throat.:confused: I don't understand why he cycled the 45 to get another round loaded? Wouldn't the 45 have fired the round chambered since he wasn't really in the water long enough to contaminate the round? Was this just more suspense from Hollywood or do you think the round could have been contaminated. What say all of you??
 
Yeah, he gives the 1911 a good shake when he is emptying the mag and chamber, to make sure there is no water in there. I think I would have tried to shoot first, then if there was a malfunction, do what he did. That might have taken another split second that he couldn't afford. But it looked cool and was very suspenseful since the dog was closing fast. I'm also not quite sure that 1 shot from a .45 would instantly shut down an angry trained attack dog, but he must have hit it in the sweet spot. That's Hollywood for you.
 
Agreed, it was to clear the barrel of water.

I don't think it would be all that big a deal with a .45 though. Water should drain out pretty easily, unlike a smaller bore that will retain water due to surface tension or capillary action or whatever it is that makes water not want to leave tiny holes.

I certainly wouldn't have spent the time trying to clear it with the dog bearing down on me.
 
It looked like he blew down the barrel after he cleared it too, to get all of the water out. Personally I wouldn't have had the thought to do that in a situation like that, I would have just attempted to shoot the dog. If the gun hadn't fired I probably would have stood there dumbfounded while the pit had me for lunch. But then again, I'm not a hollywood hero.

Dope
 
Water would drain out of any pistol, even a .22, just by tipping it down. Unless he had jammed the muzzle into river mud, perhaps.

I'd just shoot the thing.
 
Yeah that movie was pretty sick. Does anyone know if that was a 12 gauge with a sound suppressor the bad guy was using?
 
I got the impression that the badguy was using a 12, but it could have been 20.

The Brolin character was a Vietnam vet, so he probably had a little bit of training on how to clear a wet weapon...
 
First we have folks complaining how unrealistic movies are and now we have folks nit-pickin' about making them too realistic? :D ;)
 
In the movie Moss was a Vietnam Veteran.

I'm sure he was just doing what he had been trained to do to when a weapon that had gotten wet.

If the weapon had misfired on the first go he wouldn't have had time to clear it. Also, had the barrel been plugged then he could have also had a KaBoom. It was a smart move on his part to clear it and then shoot.

Edit: Darn it Rugerlvr, you beat me to it!! :D
 
Water is of no concern to a 1911. I purposely squirt water down the barrel of mine when I shoot suppressed. A gun rag recently had an article where 3 1911s were fired completely underwater with JHPs, and only 1 sustained any damage at all.

The fastest drill would have been to simply point at the dog and pull the trigger. If there was a misfire, simply racking the slide would chamber a fresh one.
 
*zips up flame suit*

In this movie, the "hunter" leaves a man to die, steals an illegal weapon, brandishes in public, shoots in public, keeps money illegally, and creates an illegal weapon... I wasn't impressed and I don't think this gave the US public a good perception of "hunters".


Sorry just had to voice my opinion.
 
Brigham, I never thought he was much of a "hero" as much as a deeply flawed protagonist.

The movie is rather nihilistic.
 
Brighamr, what changes could make this a pro gun or pro 2A movie?

I just watched it and liked it because it developed the main characters very well using little but precisly chosen dialogue.

I enjoy watching movies that are driven by protagonists that perpetuate their problems with their bad nature...

But interestingly enough, the BIG reason that he got himself in the mess is because of his GOOD nature in wanting to take the dying man some water. It's that ironic? And it wasn't thought out very well by the otherwise streetsmart protagonist. He MUST have realized that there would be others coming to look for the money and drugs and that they would be ready to kill. What in the world was he thinking?

A few gun related things....

I had forgotten he had the .45 (or wouldn't have relied on it staying in his pants when he was swimming, but of course he would have felt whether it was there or not). As he was getting out of the water, I was thinking he should have just stayed in the river and drown the dog by holding it underwater. It would have only taken a few moments because dogs don't know how to hold their breath.

As it turns out the .45 was a better choice. However, he had also never shot the gun and if it had malfunctioned the dog probably would have killed him.

I agree that the steps he took were unnecessary. I would have just held the pistol with the mussel down for a moment to let the water drain while cycling a round and then shot the dog.

I would have considered just drowning the dog in the river.
 
Not true - I've known several dogs who not only held their breath underwater, but swam underwater.

Biker
 
After reading the comments and oohs And aahs about it being such a great movie in a number of forums, it must be that maybe I'm not a deep thinker or just slow. although I think I got the general drift, I flat did not like at the non ending of No Country For Old Men and I generally like most of Tommy Lee Jones' movies. A thumbs down for me!!:p
 
After reading the comments and oohs And aahs about it being such a great movie in a number of forums, it must be that maybe I'm not a deep thinker or just slow. although I think I got the general drift, I flat did not like at the non ending of No Country For Old Men and I generally like most of Tommy Lee Jones' movies. A thumbs down for me!!
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The movie isn't really about the obvious plot (guy steals drug money and runs for his life). If you listen to the intro speech by the Sheriff and remember it, it kind of comes together at the end.

The movie is about an old man who is just no longer equipped mentally or physically for the job he does. He finds it increasingly harder to get his mind around the current state of affairs, and, in the end, decides that this is no longer any territory for him to be treading in.

Hence the title: No Country For Old Men.


-T.
 
FWIW, one year at the SOF convention in Las Vegas, some of the RKB buddies demonstrated conclusively that a 1911 will function somewhere down in a swimming pool. Accompanied by booze and laughter, of course...
 
The movie is about an old man who is just no longer equipped mentally or physically for the job he does. He finds it increasingly harder to get his mind around the current state of affairs, and, in the end, decides that this is no longer any territory for him to be treading in.
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I understood that fact perfectly but just didn't care for the ending(?):)
 
It didn't resonate very deeply with me, either, barkert. I didn't find it very entertaining, which a movie ought to be IMO, and it didn't work too well as art either. I found the first half superior to the second half in terms of both criteria, but on the whole it wasn't my cup of tea either.

It wasn't very realistic or very fantastic either. I felt kind of "blah" about it. I think it would work better as a book. The characters weren't very believable, either. The directors and screenwriter almost seemed to be trying too hard to portray them as real, hardscrabble down-home people. There were some definite high points as far as the introduction of Javier Bardem's character, and the initial development of the protagonist, but the second half was pretty lame I felt.

Just my opinion.
 
I think it would work better as a book.
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You're in luck. Cormac McCarthy had the forsight to write one.

I'd be curious to know about the suppressed shotgun as well. Is it possible? Hmm.
 
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