MB,
"So until I pay another $30-40 for a pistol rotor I will be unable to load any pistol on my new press Since it only comes with the rifle rotor. The pistol inserts I ordered will not work until I get a pistol rotor to go with them."
If they've done a product improvement or not, I don't know. Mine works great with the standard measure. I do know RCBS and Hornady have collaborated in the past year relating to powder measures and the case activated powder drop, so this might be where all this is coming from, with each company making some of the parts for the other. If it improves accuracy at the pistol range, that's all for the good, even if it costs a bit more, because when you get down to it, there's not that much difference in costs when it's all totalled up.
As far as the not in stock thing goes, Graffs and Midway both told me they have been out of the parts since November, and they are waiting on Hornady to fill their orders. The Nice CS lady at Hornady said Midways order was sitting in the warehouse???? And they have no orders from any of the other retailers pending.
Yeah, something smells, but if Hornady has them in stock and they don't have them, who knows what's going on. Back in the day when Dillon was going through various changes of presses, they had some stuff that took a while as well. This LnL is a pretty new press and I'm wondering if RCBS, who is definately going through some changes, isn't the maker of those cylinders. Be aware that with retailers this time of year, they hold off ordering until after tax time, to avoid paying taxes on their stock. So orders before New Years are always a better thing to do until waiting till after the end of the year, when their stock is depleted and they begin ordering again, after inventory and taxes. How do I know this? Because I work the gunshows with a buddy who has a Class 3 FFL and every single gun dealer does this to avoid taxes. So you might be thanking the Dems for this one.
Maybe I can do a conference call between them so I can get my parts and actually use my press.
I think I'd just be patient and save my emotional energy. I would pressure Midway to get Hornady to drop ship one for me if I could in the interests of customer service, at their expense, of course.
"BTW thanks for your input on this Dave, I would like to know if the Dillon Dies you had with your 550 work in the Lock n load Other than the belling issue or will I also have to buy all new dies or grind my dillon dies so that they will clear the shell plate (not happening)??"
I've never used Dillon dies on my Hornady, but I decided to do some checking to try help you out and clear a few things up.
Item 1. I have a brand new set of Lee 9MM dies, including their factory crimp die, so you can seat and crimp separately. I installed it on the Hornady to take some measurements. It's a short die, so you have to flip the nut upside down to give enough length the shellplate, no biggie. The die sticks out about 3/8" to 1/2" from the bottom of the Lock N Load bushing, the fact the die requires you turn the die into the press until the bottom of the die touches the shellplate and leave it there The bottom of the die must touch the shellplate. FCD's are then adjustable for crimp with a knob on top, like a bullet seater has. This fact the die must touch the shellplate and the width of the die at 0.75 inch is what causes the die to interfere with the ejector wire.
Item 2. My Hornady taper crimp die, which is a typical standard taper crimp die (no adjustable knob on top, just a knob to turn the die in), has only one adjustment. You screw it in until you get enough crimp. I got enough crimp (standard taper crimp die setting for .45ACP) without the die sticking much out of the LnL bushing, if at all. Also, the bottom of the die is tapered slightly and at it's widest measures 0.721 inch, but is a non-issue because the die doesn't stick out far enough from the LnL bushing to affect the ejector spring.
Item 3. I called Dillon to get some dimensions of the Dilon die so I could compare it to the Hornady and get some idea of how it might adjust. The guy that answered the phone line didn't seem real interested in answering my questions about the die and began to call my questions ridiculous when I asked for external die dimensions of their dies. So much for Dillon's no BS customer service.
It was plain from the start the guy answering the tech line didn't want to help unless you were a loyal Dillon press owner, even if it involved a Dillon die. I was pretty disgusted after hearing how great and positive attitude Dillon customer service was for Dillon owners. (I never called them when I owned the 550, didn't need any help then.) And it may well be great if you buy their presses, but it certainly wasn't there for this potential customer when trying to find out about one of their products. So you're on your own on this one. Sorry, I tried, but Dillon didn't cooperate. Instead, they gave me BS.
BTW, you don't need the Dillon die features of it coming apart to clean on the Hornady, because you can remove an individual die and hose it out with brake cleaner no problem.
Item 4. I checked with Hornady technical support, who was cooperative and gave me the scoop. They don't know wether or not Dillon's taper crimp die will clear the ejector wire, but they suspect it will not if it requires you to screw the die down to the shellplate and then back off to setup. The Hornady taper crimp dies are designed to screw in to adjust.
Item 5. As far as the Dillon dies go and I know you want to use your die and I don't blame you. I'm guessing it may or may not clear. But you know you shoulda asked or checked about compatability before buying the Hornady press. Worst case and I know this is blasphemy to a Dillon owner, you could sell the Dillon crimp die and buy a Hornady or a Lee FCD. Both work fine and aren't expensive. The Hornady, the more expensive of the two, is only $21.00 from Hornady (I'm guessing around $16.00 retail) and it's the same type of crimp die the Dillon is. It is also open top to bottom so you can clean it just as easily as a Dillon. I hate to give you that suggestion, but it's an option if the Dillon won't work. Of course I know this will be additional trauma for you.
Sorry the news wasn't better. You'll just have to set up your press with the dies to start. I apologize if this sounds harsh, but I'm beginning to think your issues aren't about the press or dealers, but possibly bad planning and possibly buyer's remorse. If you do have regrets, now is the time to send the Hornady back and get yourself a Dillon 650 (and be loading with no drama for around a a mere, what? $200.00 to $300.00 or so more than the Hornady?) It sounds like you aren't going to be happy otherwise and will jump at every opportunity to find fault with the press, not giving it a honest chance. It deserves better than that.
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