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Do I have Correct Trijicon(XS?) Front Sight on my S&W J Frame 340?

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I just got this gun about a week ago and from looking at the stock S&W M&P 340s
that come with night sights or other 340PDs like mine I can't find any like this(Too tall?).

According to my paperwork it was purchased as an XS standard dot night sight
(installed by Cylinder&Slide when it was in for lots of custom work), but it is marked
trijicon and is much taller than any I can find, almost like it should be a target sight,
not a carry sight. Anyone seen this size before? Are they hard to change out or should
I not worry about it? Thanks

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They all say Trijicon on the top, as that is the company that actually makes the glow agent. That is for sure a Big Dot.

Yes they are hard to install, unless you know what you are doing. You also have to drill a hole in the actual sight. Greg's instructions above help, but for $30 bucks, I had my gunsmith do it for me.

Standard Dot:

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Big Dot:

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No, it is not a big dot, it does not fill up the sight, rather sits up in the top half and there is a lot of black below the dot before the frame. That is why I thought it was odd, maybe correcting for a particular type of load?
 
Hey,
I looked at a M&P 340 in a gun shop today and the XS sight on it was about a 3rd shorter than the XS on my Model 60.
Now, yours definitely looks too tall to me (especially with that ramped barrel. Have you shot it yet? I think i would give C&S a call.
Regards,
Greg
 
It looks close to what they show in that pic, but mine still looks a bit taller and it is not the big dot. Do they use the same sight for both I wonder and just don't use up as much space with the small dot? Kind of a waste if that is the case, unless there is a reason for it and with the M&P not being that tall I can't imagine what it would be.
 
I honestly wouldn't worry as long as it doesn't make it shoot low you're good.
 
To answer your last question: higher sights are typically used for heavier-weight bullets. This sight might well put a Rem 38S12 (158-gr. LSWC-HP) spot on at fifteen yards--or whatever--with the 'typical' person shooting it. It seems to me that there are a couple of questions to be looked at.


1. Simply from a pragmatic viewpoint, does the POA correspond to the POI (Point of Impact) with your selected PD ammo? If it does, fugeddaboutit being "too tall." If it doesn't, you could consider changing your PD ammo selection...

If you do NOT have enough experience firing this revolver, you're going to have to get some. Shooting a lightweight 2" is a different experience, particularly as you develop the muscle memory for shooting your selected round and subsequent shots.

While you are practicing, try using an "Old Fuff quad five" drill--

1. Five shots
2. Five yards
3. Five-inch group
4. Five seconds.

This can be simply done with a sheet of typing paper, with no bullseye on it. Set up the distance, and set yourself the goal of getting the shots off in a controlled-rapid fire manner, but with no attempt to do it in five seconds. As you become acclimated to your ammo, firearm, you'll start to feel comfortable in speeding up. Remember that as you gain the acclimation to shooting this firearm and your hand gains conditioning, your POA-POI relationship will change.


2. Insofar as C&S did the work, I imagine that they requested your ammo selection at the time of the work order. IOW, what did you tell them; based on that, they probably used their knowledge to select a correct front sight height.

Check out some links to learning new sighting skills needed for snubby defensive shooting. I don't have these at hand--but someone may show up with a link.

Personally, I consider this kind of firearm to be much more likely defensively used while point-shooting, and that those are the skills I chose to develop most. Were it my gun, I'd just go shoot it--a lot--with my selected ammo. FWIW--I have a factory M&P 340, and the standard smaller-dot Trijicon is noticably shorter. However, I added aftermarket CT grips (the 405 / shorter one), and I find I rarely use the front sight. I have used the CT grips to teach myself point shooting.

edited to add: If you plan on this for daily carry, in a pocket holster, then I too share a minor concern about it snagging. However, lots of practice--including a draw (while the gun has NO cartridges in it, at least to being with)--will probably help you with that issue.


Jim H.
 
Jfh, thanks for the reply. I just purchased the gun and the C&S work was already done back in 07, and the paperwork did not mention a tall sight, just the standard XS or that a specific ammo was selected. I am not sure on my carry load yet, I am all over the page from buffalo bores defensive 125s, hotter 125s, something in 158 like hydra shock, or 180 gr black talon/sxt. I am in the process of picking up some of all to help me make that choice, though I like what I have read about the heavier 180s so far, but I have a feeling the SXTs are not going to be kind on the ears, eyes, or hand even compared to the others.

As for shooting, I plan to shoot it a lot, so far even with 357s I enjoy shooting it plus I know I need the practice. I have never had a DOA gun and usually always shoot SA in revolvers(last one was a 500 mag), but was getting suprisingly good groups by the end of the first few cylinders. I don't think accuracy will be a problem, just need to work on getting times down and working with the laser, never have used lasers on my carry guns before.

I guess it comes down to how POA is for the carry load I end up with, so I guess I need to get to the range and get that sorted out before I do anything with the sight. Thanks again jfh and to the others who posted.
 
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