Vern Humphrey
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If you don't carry every day, everywhere you go, I'll bet money that when you need it, you won't have it.
Do you always carry?
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sharpie414
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even though my state has not yet allowed concealed carry, I conceal carry every day and everywhere. the second amendment overrules any state law in my book. and plus i might just get a pat on the back from the MPD when i blow some holes in one of the many urban folks that are on a spree of robbing non urban folks lately
1KPerDay
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Only when I'm dressed.
Your book doesn't count. What counts is what the court says.sharpie414 said:
Or you might just go to jail (and lose your gun rights) anyway. Bernie Goetz was acquitted on the assault charges because the jury bought his self defense claim; but he still went to jail on a weapons charge.sharpie414 said:
In any case, it's a pretty poor idea to go admitting to breaking the law to a bunch of strangers in a public place.
Old krow
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That might work for some people. On a military installation it would be severely frowned upon.
1911Tuner
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>If you don't carry every day, everywhere you go, I'll bet money that when you need it, you won't have it.<
Yep. SSgt Murphy follows us everywhere.
>If you don't carry every day, everywhere you go, I'll bet money that when you need it, you won't have it.<
Yep. SSgt Murphy follows us everywhere.
pwhfirefighter
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Fortunately, here in Mississippi, the state laws allow anyone with a clean criminal record to keep a weapon "concealed in whole or in part" in your vehicle at all times, loaded and ready to go pretty much any where you go. The vehicle is considered an "extension" of your home. There is no requirement for a permit to conceal a loaded weapon in your vehicle, only to conceal on your person. The laws say no public nor private employer can prevent you from having a weapon in your vehicle, with the only exception being at fenced, gated, and protected area, or a guarded parking garage; and there are not many of either of those around, so if an employer says you can't have a weapon in your vehicle, that is not in accordance with State law. Military bases of course are different, each person has to weigh the risks of getting caught with one against not having one when needed
As far as carrying on your person, even with a CCW there are some limitations such as schools(as in inside the buildings), of course federal buildings, churches, and businesses existing primarily to serve alcohol just to name a few. There is soon to be a new law which will allow CC in more places with an endorsement showing firearms training. With that said I carry within the stated laws.
I am fortunate to live in a gun friendly state. Your right to protect yourself in your vehicle is the same as in your home. There is no "duty to retreat" in MS. Rather there is a "stand your ground" law. I read on a couple of forums about other states which don't allow loaded weapons in vehicles, having to register your weapon in some, and other crazy stuff. Only NFA firearms have to be registered, so otherwise, it is your right to own what you want and no one has the right to know. Just stay low and don't draw attention and you are good to go here
As far as carrying on your person, even with a CCW there are some limitations such as schools(as in inside the buildings), of course federal buildings, churches, and businesses existing primarily to serve alcohol just to name a few. There is soon to be a new law which will allow CC in more places with an endorsement showing firearms training. With that said I carry within the stated laws.
I am fortunate to live in a gun friendly state. Your right to protect yourself in your vehicle is the same as in your home. There is no "duty to retreat" in MS. Rather there is a "stand your ground" law. I read on a couple of forums about other states which don't allow loaded weapons in vehicles, having to register your weapon in some, and other crazy stuff. Only NFA firearms have to be registered, so otherwise, it is your right to own what you want and no one has the right to know. Just stay low and don't draw attention and you are good to go here
Ala Dan
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As sure as a new day dawns, I strap my piece on; whether or not it be 0200 hrs,
or 0900, 1200, 1600, or 2000 hrs and anytime in between. My "FO FIVE" is
ready to "rock n' roll"~!
or 0900, 1200, 1600, or 2000 hrs and anytime in between. My "FO FIVE" is
ready to "rock n' roll"~!
shootingthebreeze
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Sharpie 414 your concept will not hold up in court; you could have an accident, found to be carrying without a CPL and be brought up on weapons charge, a felony, thus losing your right to even own a firearm forever.
Not a good idea. Plus your concept about being a one man vigilante is also very flawed. Having a CPL does not mean being police.
I have a CPL and my cell phone is my best friend if I witness a crime-second, in Michigan one can only use a firearm if one is physically threatened directly with lethal force or rape.
As far as the post, I can't carry all the time for a lot of reasons based on legal restrictions such as: I'm an RN so I cannot bring a firearm on hospital grounds to include it being my work place. Many days go by without. Situational awareness then is very important.
Not a good idea. Plus your concept about being a one man vigilante is also very flawed. Having a CPL does not mean being police.
I have a CPL and my cell phone is my best friend if I witness a crime-second, in Michigan one can only use a firearm if one is physically threatened directly with lethal force or rape.
As far as the post, I can't carry all the time for a lot of reasons based on legal restrictions such as: I'm an RN so I cannot bring a firearm on hospital grounds to include it being my work place. Many days go by without. Situational awareness then is very important.
Axel Larson
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I always carry when I legally can and I have cloths on.
Jonah71
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Same here.
ForumSurfer
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But not in the legal books that count. Once you get caught, even in a case of justified self defense you will face possible felony charges and a really strong chance of losing your firearm ownership rights for life.
A pat on the back as they tell you to watch your head as you get into the backseat of their cruiser. We aren't the police. We don't enforce the law nor are we authorized to. There are laws that vary state to state that may or may not have you covered if acting on behalf of someone being threatened with rape or death...but out in the real world it is hard to tell who the bad guy is. Intervention should be something we are all wary about as once everything takes place and you're in the thick of it, the person you think may be the victim may actually be the aggressor.
You could always open carry, although even then you have some seriously restrictive statutes in WI. It stinks you have no legal way to conceal carry, but doing it illegally is a recipe for disaster. I respect that you are standing up for what you believe, but the courts nor the officers on the street who enforce the law (even if the law is wrong) won't. Then you'll be just another guy with a record who can't vote or own a firearm. YMMV
RichBMW
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No. I drop my granddaughter at elementary school. I was at Disneyworld with her yesterday. I carry when I can, when it's appropriate, when it's legal.
shootingthebreeze
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Sharpie 414s comments anger me more as I think about them.
By following a flawed thinking Sharpie is actually undermining those who abide by state laws. There is nothing more anti gun groups want than people like Sharpie walking around waiting to make an error in judgement. Such behavior actually gives anti gun groups ammunition to go after all gun owners and CPL holders.
So Sharpie is undermining what he actually believes in plus setting himself up for a felony.
By following a flawed thinking Sharpie is actually undermining those who abide by state laws. There is nothing more anti gun groups want than people like Sharpie walking around waiting to make an error in judgement. Such behavior actually gives anti gun groups ammunition to go after all gun owners and CPL holders.
So Sharpie is undermining what he actually believes in plus setting himself up for a felony.
CHEVELLE427
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if it is a legal place to carry i have mine on me , even as i set here i have it on me.
it is better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it
it is better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it
Sharpie 1414 is wrong in not obeying his state laws even if they are oppressive and blatantly unconstitutional. One should strive to obey the laws and be a good citizen. I follow my state laws. So if a citizen of states like illinois, new jersey and wisconsin wind up in a situation where they are being shot at, beaten, or have a group of hooligans beat and rape their wives, at least they will have a reassurance that at least they are obeying state law
MisterMike
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I'm not advocating breaking the law, but if that were the guiding principle of our forefathers we'd still be flying the Union Jack. Americans have a long history of civil disobedience, which has often led to profound social and legal changes. However, if one decides on principle to challenge the law through disobedience, one must willingly accept the consequences. Among those, the probability of being celebrated by the MPD for blasting felons is pretty low.
Me? I almost always carry when I can legally do so. Sometimes it's practically impossible, like when you're going to the beach and don't have a way to effectively secure your weapon.
Dr_B
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If I'm not at work or one of the five places state law says I cannot carry, then I have a gun. That includes sitting around the house.
PcolaDawg
Member
Like others on here have already stated, I carry all the time and everywhere I am legally allowed. If it is not legally allowed, I don't carry. Everywhere it is allowed, though, I carry a gun.
This means:
- work
- church
- biking
- at the beach
- the mall
- all the time while driving
- at home (I even make sure my pajamas have pockets so I can carry even when lounging around the home late at night or early morning)
- while walking the dog
- grocery shopping
- etc., etc.
People that ask why I carry a gun in a particular place because it's so highly unlikely I would need it, completely miss the point. Heck, if I thought I might need a gun in a particular place, I'd avoid that place. I carry a gun for the specific purpose of having it when I never thought in a million years I'd need it, but all of a sudden I do. THAT'S why I carry a gun everywhere. Because if that moment ever happens, I want to be ready to protect me and mine. And since I have the constitutional right to do so, I'm exercising that right.
So I carry every single place I am allowed to 24/7. And when I sleep, I have a gun right next to me on a bed stand.
This means:
- work
- church
- biking
- at the beach
- the mall
- all the time while driving
- at home (I even make sure my pajamas have pockets so I can carry even when lounging around the home late at night or early morning)
- while walking the dog
- grocery shopping
- etc., etc.
People that ask why I carry a gun in a particular place because it's so highly unlikely I would need it, completely miss the point. Heck, if I thought I might need a gun in a particular place, I'd avoid that place. I carry a gun for the specific purpose of having it when I never thought in a million years I'd need it, but all of a sudden I do. THAT'S why I carry a gun everywhere. Because if that moment ever happens, I want to be ready to protect me and mine. And since I have the constitutional right to do so, I'm exercising that right.
So I carry every single place I am allowed to 24/7. And when I sleep, I have a gun right next to me on a bed stand.
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