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Open carry harrassment and screwball LEO logic...
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denfoote
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Sounds to me like the Younstown PD needs a good hard lesson in Constitutional rights.
About a billion dollars worth of lesson.
Hey Lawyer, wanna new Bimmer???
About a billion dollars worth of lesson.
Hey Lawyer, wanna new Bimmer???
papajohn
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I just want to clarify things, I am NOT currently a LEO, I gave that up 10 years ago. Too many idiot administrators who didn't care much for dinosaurs like me. I was too "gunny" for them, and they were too "asinine" for me. 
Nowadays I work corporate security, sitting in a mostly-empty office building, watching for bad guys who don't come around any more. Word apparently got out there's a cranky old bald white guy with a gun that works here, and if he catches you transgressing on his turf, you'd better be wearing kevlar undies.
I DO miss working midnights at the PD, that's when all the drunks and crazies came out to play, and I could relate to most of them. It's those white-shirted P-C maroons on day shift I couldn't stand, the ones who'd forgotten every lesson they'd ever learned on the street, and would throw a good cop to the wolves if he didn't salute their P-C flag. THEM I don't miss.
The best part is that now I sit here doing 12-hour shifts on the weekends, playing on the internet and repriming brass, a few hundred at a time. I tell the curious that it's the male equivalent of Knitting, and they nod and wander off.
The STL city cops don't bother me, they trust me to take care of my little corner of paradise, and I tend to clean up whatever messes occur without any need for them, so everybody's happy. It seems like in places where there's a fairly high crime rate, the cops know their business, and don't mess with anyone unduly. But out in the suburbs where there's too much free time, you can always find a gaggle of morons if you try!
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Nowadays I work corporate security, sitting in a mostly-empty office building, watching for bad guys who don't come around any more. Word apparently got out there's a cranky old bald white guy with a gun that works here, and if he catches you transgressing on his turf, you'd better be wearing kevlar undies.
I DO miss working midnights at the PD, that's when all the drunks and crazies came out to play, and I could relate to most of them. It's those white-shirted P-C maroons on day shift I couldn't stand, the ones who'd forgotten every lesson they'd ever learned on the street, and would throw a good cop to the wolves if he didn't salute their P-C flag. THEM I don't miss.
The best part is that now I sit here doing 12-hour shifts on the weekends, playing on the internet and repriming brass, a few hundred at a time. I tell the curious that it's the male equivalent of Knitting, and they nod and wander off.
The STL city cops don't bother me, they trust me to take care of my little corner of paradise, and I tend to clean up whatever messes occur without any need for them, so everybody's happy. It seems like in places where there's a fairly high crime rate, the cops know their business, and don't mess with anyone unduly. But out in the suburbs where there's too much free time, you can always find a gaggle of morons if you try!
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It certainly does in states that allow OC without permit while requiring one (or not even allowing) concealed carry.
Stevie-Ray
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Same here. The good old outdoors and the comfort of my own deck.
And I'd have made the cop come to me also.
Sylvan-Forge
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"Nine-one-one, what's your emergency?"
"There's a man with a gun! He's walking down the street!
"What's he doing?"
"He's got a gun and walking!"
"Does he have the gun in his hand? Is he threatening anyone?"
"Uhh .. no .. but I can see his gun!"
"Where is the gun?"
"On his hip .."
"Was he threatening anyone? What has he done?"
"No ... nothing, .. just ... it's just the ...."
"As long as he minds himself and is not threatening, there is nothing we will do."
"ahhh ... okay .. it just seemed ...."
"It's the second amendment, please don't use the nine-one one-system unless there is an actual emergency"
"I'm sorry ... I guess I just panicked .."
"Okay, have a good day."
click.
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"There's a man with a gun! He's walking down the street!
"What's he doing?"
"He's got a gun and walking!"
"Does he have the gun in his hand? Is he threatening anyone?"
"Uhh .. no .. but I can see his gun!"
"Where is the gun?"
"On his hip .."
"Was he threatening anyone? What has he done?"
"No ... nothing, .. just ... it's just the ...."
"As long as he minds himself and is not threatening, there is nothing we will do."
"ahhh ... okay .. it just seemed ...."
"It's the second amendment, please don't use the nine-one one-system unless there is an actual emergency"
"I'm sorry ... I guess I just panicked .."
"Okay, have a good day."
click.
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slabuda
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You sound like my old man. Probably why he never made Chief. He dont play politics with the town council and to say he is un-PC is an understatement.
Hes retired now but still works there. We had power out in NW Indiana for q while recently due to a tornado. People were actually calling the PD to complain about NIPSCO not getting it on. One asked when will it be on, he replied when you pay your bill.
I tend to take after him and am not one to play politics and say it like it is good or bad. Some in the military appreciate it, some dont. Screw those that dont they aint worth my time.
On the topic of the OP. I will OC at times while camping etc but just prefer to remain in the shadows, Im a quiet and reserved guy who doesnt like attention so I CC.
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