Do you CCW in the Gun Shop?

[19-3Ben]

I do. One of my two gunshops has a sign that says "No Loaded Firearms Please." Out of respect to them, when I walk in I inform that that I am CCWing and ask them what to do since I don't want to leave the gun in the car. They usually just either tell me to keep CCWing and thank me for informing them (rather than try to get away with it), or they ask me to unload while in the store, and then reload on the way out. So I'll end up carrying, but an empty gun.

 

[Big45]

Everywhere.

 

[riceboy72]

The shops I frequent in the greater Puget Sound area have no issues with carrying while in their store, so long as the pistol is holstered and you act responsibly. Many have signs posted at the front door reinforcing such.

I, too, ask before I try holsters. If I am doing holster shopping exclusively, I will carry another pistol and bring in the gun I want fitted in a case, unloaded, and show it to them in said condition. I've never had a problem, and I've been thanked for being so diligent and courteous.

 

[SAG0282]

Absolutely I do.

 

[QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW]

ive said it before and ill say it again, my CPL gones on in the moring with my pants and doesn't come off till they do at night. the ONLY otehr time i don't carry is when it is illegal for me to do so, ie gun shows, and federal buildings.

 

[Bennett Prescott]

If my gun shop didn't encourage OC and CC, it wouldn't be my gun shop.

I don't understand the mentality of people who voluntarily disarm themselves to avoid... offense? I'm not sure.

 

[TAB]

If my gun shop didn't encourage OC and CC, it wouldn't be my gun shop.

I don't understand the mentality of people who voluntarily disarm themselves to avoid... offense? I'm not sure.

have you ever worked in a FFL?

I have, trust me thier are alot of idiots out there. I've seen so many violations of basic safety rules working there is not even funny.

I kid you not, 1 out of every 5 or 6 rifles that came into to be scope mounted were loaded or had rounds in the mag. I saw CCs have thier guns fall out of thier pockets, was swept by more times then I can count, I think you get the idea.

So I understand all to well why a store owner would want people they don't know with loaded weapons.

 

[DWARREN123]

I carry everywhere I can. A gun shop that does not allow CCW is not supporting their customers in my opinion. The no loaded firearms sign in my experience is for guns to be traded or worked on.

 

[Cosmoline]

Maybe it's a cultural thing. I've only seen one shop that has a no ccw sign and they're a bunch of jerks who will never get my business. Leaving iron in your car in front of a gun store seems like an open invitation to theft.

 

[Cosmoline]

I have, trust me thier are alot of idiots out there. I've seen so many violations of basic safety rules working there is not even funny.

But isn't that the same logic the antis use? Because some people are idiots, everyone must lose their right to carry.

 

[TAB]

But isn't that the same logic the antis use? Because some people are idiots, everyone must lose their right to carry

not really, but it is a good reason to require training to get a CCW.

 

[SCGirl]

I noticed at my gun shop/range, all the sales guy openly have their carries displayed! I was surprised..thought it was supposed to be concealed...maybe they have different rules...?

 

[Chuck Dye]

SCGirl,

On private property the rules are largely established by the house. Ask them and those employees who carry in public likely add a cover garment, perhaps even change holsters, even weapons, before leaving the haven of private property.

 

[Standing Wolf]

I don't ever do business with anti-Second Amendment bigots.

 

[TAB]

I don't ever do business with anti-Second Amendment bigots.

don't ever do biz with people that make comments about something they have no idea about.

 

[mewachee]

Holy chill out.

I we tall did!

 

[Treo]

Specialty Sports Supply Colorado Springs.

Usually the only gun shop I go to, the first time I carried I asked the owner what his policy was, he looked at my like I was out of my mind & said " I couldn't care less, if you unholster in the store an employee MUST clear your weapon."

I personally agree W/ the idea of not carrying the gun I intend to holster shop for in a gunstore. I bring that one in in a case.

 

[bob2c]

I am allways suprised when I see a sign stating no loaded weapons. But I sort of understand the owners / employees wanting controll of a bad situation should it occur.

I simply unload in the car but keep the gun on me. The reason is I know of some places that have this poicy and theives will occasionally lurk and note who is hiding a gun in their car and when the folks go into the store wammo- free gun. Not everyone has a safe in the car.

I also know of a few gunstores that have loads of weapon, are close to the highway and one or two employees at closing... perfect senario for a robbery. And that would be a bloodbath that I would not want to be unarmed for.

 

[spiroxlii]

The gun shop I frequent has a "No loaded weapons" sign. I asked once if that applied to permit holders or if it was posted mainly for people who were just bringing in weapons to fire on the range. The answer I got was "You can carry your holstered pistol in here if you unload it outside first."

The guy said it very slowly and maintained eye a sort of conspiratorial eye contact with me the whole time. It occurred to me a moment later that he never told me I'd have to let an employee clear my weapon, so they'd have no way of knowing if that pistol riding in my holster was loaded or not. He couldn't outright tell me to carry loaded, but he told me to wear and carry the pistol in a state where only I would know whether it was loaded or not. I'm a regular there, and I often bring new shooters in to teach them basic safety rules and let them get addicted to shooting.

I get the feeling that they made up their policy because so many huge idiots come into the shop every day and commit countless safety violations. I don't even work there, but I shop there often enough to see the ignorant shoppers sweeping people with handguns or shouldering long guns and pointing them at an area that might be empty at that very moment but where people often walk through.

 

[wuchak]

Yup. The unloaded sign at the door is for weapons you will be handling while in the store. Here in KS there is only one approved sign that applies to permit holders. I do the same as others if I am looking for accessories for my CCW and unload before entering. One store I frequent has a firing range so if you get inside and decide you want to check something for you CCW you can step back to the range and unload with the gun pointed safely down range.

I also go to Cabela's frequently and their sign says that all guns must be unloaded and checked in at the front counter and underneath it is says this does not apply to concealed carry weapons.

 

[Eleven Mike]

State law supercedes any company signs IMO.

Your opinion is wrong. A proprietor does not need a law to keep you from carrying in his store. He has a right to control what goes on in his place of business. Our second amendment rights do not allow us to violate the property rights of others.

 

[TAB]

Your opinion is wrong. A proprietor does not need a law to keep you from carrying in his store. He has a right to control what goes on in his place of business. Our second amendment rights do not allow us to violate the property rights of others.

ding, ding, ding we have a winner.

 

[spiroxlii]

Eleven, I don't think he was saying that we're free to trample on property rights. I just think he meant that the signs themselves don't carry legal weight. Here in Georgia, the signs don't mean anything legally. If an owner or manager asks me to leave for ANY reason, though (even if it's because I'm legally carrying a gun in his or her store), I must leave or I will be guilty of criminal trespass. I can't say, "Nuh-uh! Your sign doesn't mean anything because the law says this place isn't off limits!"

The law may not make the corner store off limits. The sign at the corner store may not be able to change the fact that it's legal for me to carry there. But if the owner/operator wants me out of the store because of my gun (or any other reason), then it doesn't matter if it's legal for me to carry there, because it would be illegal for me to continue to BE there at all.

 

[mewachee]

I was just thinking about this and the "idiots" that are being talked about. Also, when people talk about mandatory training for ccw, it just sounds to me like everyone wants the training to happen somewhere else.

I think the first place to demonstrate proper gun etiquette and safety is the shop. I am just as alert when someone holds an unloaded gun, as I am when they are holding a loaded gun. I don't know how many times I have been in a shop, and the salesman checks if the gun is unloaded, then proceeds to point it at me, or someone else in the shop.

Every shop should safety protocol signs (such as, "Loaded or unloaded firearms should be pointed in a safe direction, AT ALL TIMES."), and should talk the costumer through the steps they themselves are walking through: "This weapon is clear," "I am pointing this in a safe direction," ect. It seems elementary, and it really is, but many don't know the fundamentals. This teaches each costumer what the shop expects.

Whether we are carrying C.C.W. or O.C., we have no business removing a loaded and holstered gun, unless we intend to use it in the state it is in. If this is "common sense," then there is no need for any prohibitions.

I would hope that you would show me the same consideration in my home.

 

[TAB]

Eleven, I don't think he was saying that we're free to trample on property rights. I just think he meant that the signs themselves don't carry legal weight. Here in Georgia, the signs don't mean anything legally. If an owner or manager asks me to leave for ANY reason, though (even if it's because I'm legally carrying a gun in his or her store), I must leave or I will be guilty of criminal trespass. I can't say, "Nuh-uh! Your sign doesn't mean anything because the law says this place isn't off limits!"

The law may not make the corner store off limits. The sign at the corner store may not be able to change the fact that it's legal for me to carry there. But if the owner/operator wants me out of the store because of my gun (or any other reason), then it doesn't matter if it's legal for me to carry there, because it would be illegal for me to continue to BE there at all.

So disrespecting the properity owners wishs, even if it legal to do so is ok with you?

This is one of the things that really pisses me off about the gun commuinty. We are all about rights, yet we no prob with violating some one elses rights in the process.