Do you CCW in the Gun Shop?

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Always. State law supercedes any company signs IMO.
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I wrote the above and obviously need to explain it since a few of you don't see where I was coming from (that is understandable since my answer was short with no meat to it).
What I should have wrote is that yes I always carry in gun shops. Just like I carry anywhere that is not off-limits in the state statutes. Regardless of the sign, I will enter a place of business carrying. I have no respect for their sign as they have no respect for my God given and state approved right of self preservation and protection. If they find out I am carrying and ask me to leave I will do so as I do respect their wishes to no longer have me there. That sign is just a piece of paper with no legal or ethical bearing whereas the state statute is the opposite. Now they can have me arrested if I refuse to leave or come back after they asked me to leave but that they can not have me arrested for carrying a firearm legally.
 
There isn't a gun shop or sporting goods store within a 100 mile radius that I haven't carried my sidearm into. I can't imagine a "Do Not Carry" sign on the door of a sporting goods store where they sell guns!!
 
Regardless of the sign, I will enter a place of business carrying. I have no respect for their sign as they have no respect for my God given and state approved right of self preservation and protection. If they find out I am carrying and ask me to leave I will do so as I do respect their wishes to no longer have me there. That sign is just a piece of paper with no legal or ethical bearing whereas the state statute is the opposite. Now they can have me arrested if I refuse to leave or come back after they asked me to leave but that they can not have me arrested for carrying a firearm legally.
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Very well written. I do believe that I'll borrow your philosophy from now on. I'll obey the state statutes and I'll leave if asked (in person) but the sign is extremely disrespectful of my rights.
 
CCW in gun shop.

Here's the rub - I work part time in a gun shop. We're on a major highway between two high crime, high drug sale areas. I'm always on a high state of alert and I'm always armed. Every time the door opens I quickly scan who's coming in to assess risk. I've had people walk in wearing full motorcycle helmets with dark face shield - not a good idea. I've have a few folks walk in with long guns, uncased and held in ready positions - not a good idea. I had one guy approach the counter and suddenly pull his handgun from behind his back without saying a word - he damn near **** himself when he looked down the barrel of my .44 Special - all he wanted was some extra magazines. It's all about common sense and common courtesy folks. Put yourself on the other side of the counter - always ask if it OK to pull your gun or leave it outside and ask to bring it in - doesn't hurt and shows courtesy and concern. Leave it holstered, concealed, or in your car - ask and be polite - no harm no foul.
 
I carry 24/7 in every location in which it is legal. I do not go to any area (other than work) where CCW is not legal, including to attend church.
 
32 Magnum, I respect your choice to carry in what you make sound like a very dangerous job, but it is equally as important for a customer to protect themselves. I wouldn't want to be totally responsible for a customer that I said couldn't carry, especially if I was the only one in the store whom I deemed okay to be armed. Therefore, I would be primarily responsible for the defense of my customers, in a place where there is more ammo and guns than any other kind of business.

With that said, I didn't hear you saying "no carry," but to keep loaded guns holstered.
 
Gunshops here encourage CC and emphasize keeping it concealed in their shop. They do not want to see any loaded weapons.
 
I always carry in gun shops. Some require that it remain concealed. One I know of does not allow personal weapons in the open unless the person is an LEO. If I want to try a holster, I normally use a display gun. If I need to see a 'smith, I bring it into the shop unloaded in a case and invite the clerk to open the case and check inspect the gun.
 
UN-concealed carry into the gun store...

LilAbner...
no, the CC friendly store is "Freedom Gun & Pawn", the TA's are "Trader's Gun shop" in Taylors... and it's surprising. They all "open carry" in the store, so one more gun in there isn't going to make much difference in either place, and they have enough people working that they wouldn't have any chance of an "incident" occuring with just one employee. They have a bell on the front door at both places, so nobody is going to sneak up on them... it's just paranoia +.

I needed a clip for a new Sig I had bought and asked the guy at the counter if I could step in the back hallway and fit the clip into my gun to check if it fit properly. I thought he was going to stroke out, and he asked me "Do you have anything in the chamber?"

I asked him "What's that got to do with the clip fitting the pistol?" He never answered me, he just told me to "uncover" my weapon and disengage the clip leaving the gun in its holster (which was cumbersome as hell, I might add. Catching a clip across your body is tough), but they just seem overly paranoid for people who deal with guns every day.

I guess it's okay to violate the state concealed carry law by revealing your firearm in public, but it's too dangerous to stick an empty clip into a firearm in a private hallway out of public view. Go figure that one out and get back to me...:what:

WT
 
he asked me "Do you have anything in the chamber?"

I asked him "What's that got to do with the clip fitting the pistol?"
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You didn't state whether your CW was loaded or not, but if everyone who needed a clip wanted to test-fit on a loaded firearm, I would not want to be around.
 
I wrote the above and obviously need to explain it since a few of you don't see where I was coming from (that is understandable since my answer was short with no meat to it).
What I should have wrote is that yes I always carry in gun shops. Just like I carry anywhere that is not off-limits in the state statutes. Regardless of the sign, I will enter a place of business carrying. I have no respect for their sign as they have no respect for my God given and state approved right of self preservation and protection. If they find out I am carrying and ask me to leave I will do so as I do respect their wishes to no longer have me there. That sign is just a piece of paper with no legal or ethical bearing whereas the state statute is the opposite. Now they can have me arrested if I refuse to leave or come back after they asked me to leave but that they can not have me arrested for carrying a firearm legally.
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+1

I completely agree with you. I carry all the time, even at work. The only places I do not carry are those that are prohibited by law. Any store with a no gun sign out front is a store I obviously dont want to be in.

Wal-mart does not have a sign out front, yet they stopped me one day because something was sticking out under my shirt a little bit. (First it is perfectly legal to carry open if you have a permit in my state. so CCW doesnt matter, they strongly recommend you conceal ) The manager came up to me and asked me if I was armed. I replied with "why?". Not being rude or anything I just try not to inform anyone that I actually am. He said "Sir if you are armed I will have to ask you to leave this store." I asked him where his sign was posted and why I would have to leave.. blah blah. To make a long story short after I told him I would take my money else where to shop from now on and be sure to let the public know that the local wal-mart is anti-gun, he decided I could stay. I never raised my voice I never got angry but never had a problem in wally world since.
 
All of the gun stores I frequent in Utah are fully supportive of open or concealed carry.

Any gun store employee who is fitting a magazine should not be asking you if it is loaded, because all guns are always loaded. You should have cleared it when you handed it to him, and he should have checked it again. No reason for anyone to ask any questions.
 
I don't I figure if any thing happens the clerks will for sure have me covered if I do bring a firearm inside for accesories holster etc... I put it in a case unloaded and carry it in that way
 
I don't I figure if any thing happens the clerks will for sure have me covered
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You are affording them way too much credit. Do not think for a second they will be worried about you as they will be thinking about self preservation, which is exactly what you should be thinking.
 
The clerks in the stores I frequent all know I'm packing, and consider me free security while I'm there. If someone comes in to rob the place while I'm there, I will defend myself, and them, without reservation. Some of them carry, some do not. The more guns in the hands of the good guys, the better for all concerned.

PJ
 
btg3...
Safe handling of firearms doesn't mean "loaded or unloaded"... it means "safely handling the weapon". Simply having one in the chamber doesn't mean its being handled or manipulated unsafely.

I don't usually buy guns that don't have decockers on them, and if I do, then I carry them without anything in the chamber. Those with decockers have a pin block that prevents misfires unless they're broken... nothing to do with "loaded or unloaded".

If I had a gun that would fire by simply inserting a clip into it, I'd have it back in the gun shop that day... and I'd keep my booger hook off the bang switch while handling it... or any other gun while examining it or working with it in a personnel area. I can't imagine a scenario where I'd be pointing a gun AT anyone while checking a clip insertion... it would be pointed at the floor.

I don't point guns anywhere but down, downrange, or at whatever I'm planning to shoot... regardless of "loaded or unloaded"... and keep my finger out of the trigger well until I'm ready to shoot.

WT
 
Well of course I'm quite comfortable if it's just you handling a loading firearm behind my back. It all the other customers that worry me, doncha know. :rolleyes:
 
I was walking into a pawn shop awhile back andnotice a no loaded weapons sign . I figured this meant no loaded weapons as if you were coming to pawn them or have them look at them. I asked the guy behind the counter and he said no we dont want our customers coming in here with loaded guns of any kind. I told him thought it was dumb but they have that right and I have the right to leave and I did with my loaded gun and my loaded wallet.
 
CCW in Gunshops

Let me clarify my statements above:
We do NOT discourage CCW in our shop.
We do encourage CCW and sell lots of handguns specifically for that purpose.
There are "regulars" that are always armed, who come in on a frequent basis.
Strangers are certainly welcome - I, and the other couple guys who work at the shop - do not like to be surprised by strangers pulling a handgun without first asking if it's okay (majority do) or let me know they're about to do so - this is only COMMON COURTESY. When this situation arises, it is pretty easy to assess the skill and safety cognizance level of the person, just by how he handles and where he points his gun. I've had some real amatures, point at me and I've asked them to make sure their gun was unloaded and not pointed at me - some people just don't get it - CCW does not mean the carrier is proficiently trained nor smart enough to be safe.
I've had several occurances where regulars were in the shop, when groups of gangbanger-types (they never seem to come in alone, always in threes or fours) have come in to the shop and I was always glad to have the back-up presence of the CCW regulars - had one of these happen last Monday - two regulars stuck around until the gangbangers left - they didn't have valid IDs.

All I'm trying to get across, here, is that gun shops are high profile targets for the miscreants - all that is asked, in most places, is that YOU the customer act responsibly, respectfully and safely - not too much to ask for and should be common sense.
 
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