Do you get what you pay for?

[bassjam]

That depends on the user's needs and expectations. Some folks are satisfied if they just go bang. Others are more demanding. I'll be called a snob for this but one of my primary deciding factors for any firearm is that it not be a cheap gun made of pot metal.

I get the part about needs and expectations. I'd never buy a double barreled shotgun that was made like a Hi-Point because it's something I expect to be carrying through a field for hours and then want to handle great when I need to take a shot. And for a carry gun I want something that's slim and lightweight, and again Hi-Point doesn't make anything that would work for me in that role.

But for other purposes a Hi Point is exactly what I was looking for, both the handgun and carbine. I wanted a VERY cheap handgun that I could store in my garage and not care about rust but still reliable enough to use for protection, and the Hi-Point handgun fit that need perfectly.

And for a carbine I wanted a range toy that could also be thrown behind the seat of my truck, I wouldn't care if it started to rust or got scratched and I wouldn't be out $1000 if it ever got stolen. Again, Hi-Point had a solution for me. When you use as much pot metal as Hi-Point does, you get a firearm that's very strong. Unfortunately you also get one that's ugly and bulky.

 

[Geno]

Makes the Hi-Point sound like a Russian beet farmer's wife: strong, ugly and bulky.

Geno

 

[Blkhrt13]

Y'all are killing me on this thread. All the ugly jokes.

 

[maxxhavoc]

^that's an idea, I like it 2x! I hope someone actually keeps track of the rd count at point of failure, thus far I haven't heard of one.....

Mine had a failure at about 2500 rounds. That is an estimate, but it should be within 500 rounds either way. The fitting pin channel had worn with a rippled surface that caused regular failures to fire. So I removed the charging handle to make it easier to ship and sent it back.

I got it back in a couple weeks with a new stock (mine was scratched up), a new bolt, a replacement charging handle (they assumed mine was lost I guess?), two additional magazines, and a handwritten apology for the rifle failing.

"Great customer service" does not begin to cover it.

I later got a 9mm AR which is more accurate, and I enjoy shooting it more... So the HiPoint is gathering dust. But there is nothing wrong with it.

 

[LoonWulf]

I just had mine out today for a while, put scope on it for grins, all i was doing today was trying to get it "close".
I was shooting some 147 Lead heads, in front of some less than consistent charges of 231. groups ran 5-7" at 100 yds, 1" at 33yds. I had a couple obvious undercharges, one so bad the bullet only went about 30ft, had to check the gun to make sure it wasnt stuck.
Ill have it out again after i make a new, better, batch of ammo.
The 4 rounds of fmj i found rattling around in case landed inside of 2" at 100, so im expecting better results with better ammo.

 

[Berger.Fan222]

I would not take any Hi Point firearm for free.

 

[webrx]

Had mine out to the range on Saturday, a UK family member of a coworker was in town, and wanted to shoot, let them shoot all kinds of pistols, revolvers, ARs, Stealth and the little 9mm PCC. all went bang, all hit the target and all had fun.

The HP worked fine, if you are buying it to take out an go plinking, then it is a fun little carbine. You have to decide what you want to use it for, and if the $250 is worth it to you. I am not a lover of HP nor a hater, I think they are a fun range toy, that everyone seems to like to shoot. Are there better quality PCCs out there, sure, but not for $250, and while I like the 9mm PCC, I am not looking to buy another one so for me it fits a niche I wanted to try/fill.

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[bassjam]

Had mine out to the range on Saturday, a UK family member of a coworker was in town, and wanted to shoot, let them shoot all kinds of pistols, revolvers, ARs, Stealth and the little 9mm PCC. all went bang, all hit the target and all had fun.

The HP worked fine, if you are buying it to take out an go plinking, then it is a fun little carbine. You have to decide what you want to use it for, and if the $250 is worth it to you. I am not a lover of HP nor a hater, I think they are a fun range toy, that everyone seems to like to shoot. Are there better quality PCCs out there, sure, but not for $250, and while I like the 9mm PCC, I am not looking to buy another one so for me it fits a niche I wanted to try/fill.

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Thanks for doing your part to expand a love of firearms worldwide!

 

[benzy2]

To me, it's a good value and does more than what it's price point suggests. It's not an elite quality rifle but I haven't seen a thing at even twice the price that was equal to it. I don't own one but the ones I've shot have been reliable and accurate. Not the most refined rifle but functional and enjoyable.