Do you only purchase USA-made firearms?
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SeekHer
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I beg to differ, sir...What about Kimber, High Standard, Freedom Arms, Volquartsen, Thompson Center, USFA, Charter Arms, Para-Ordnance, STI, Les Baer, Ed Brown, Caspian, Detonics, Kel-Tec, Rohrbaugh, Seecamp, Kahr, Boberg, Savage, Weatherby (not Vanguard), Lazzeroni, Magnum Research and for the most part Mossberg and Remington.
As to Colt, I'll be amazed to see them still operational in five years time...Losing the M4 contract nearly devastated them--laid off nearly sixty percent; they have no handguns anymore; no civilian sales except to some LEOs; no blackpowder guns; no revolvers...They're nearly dead (for the what, 5th set of owners), both feet in the grave and the digger is coming forward to cover them up...Unfortunately, they don't have the market share like they did in past so this time it's tits up for them...Maybe some European maker will pick up the building and machinery and the intellectual property (their name and logos) will be up for bids.
The gun makers believed in the same marketing bullshyte that the US car companies believed--they were the top of the heap and they dictated what went down...Unfortunately, the buying public told them to go to Hell in a hand basket, by buying first Volkswagen Beatles by the millions and then the infestation of Japanese vehicles landed and with the foreign makers putting up plants in North America to compete against the "Made in USA" mentality...American cars crap out--Chrysler is bought out by Volkswagen and then by the Cerberus Group, Ford sells off Jaguar, Volvo, Aston Martin, AM Hummer is bought by the Chinese, Toyota acquires 25% of GM.
Thing is now they will all have to deal and compete with the 2.5 billion Chinese marketplace!
The Lone Haranguer
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American-made is certainly a bonus, but not a requirement. Also, the fact that several foreign companies have factories in the United States (a requirement for military contractors) blurs the line.
As a free American living in a global economy I buy what I want from any country that's allowed to market here. To only buy USA, thinking that it's an example of patriotism is a little too chauvinistic for me. Hell, if we didn't send our money to China, how could they continue to buy up our debt and provide us with the means to continue our "American way of Life"?
Guns like surplus Yugo M57, CZ82, Bulgarian Makarov,.....P-64 are impossible to beat for the money. Is there something made in France we should know about?
RETG
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Need to define made in America. Many items are marked as made in America but basically they are assembled in America with foreign components.
exavid
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Let's see, I drive a Mercury that's 65% US parts, a Japanese designed American built Goldwing, Watch a HD TV with a Japanese name that was built in China, own two Taurus pistols one that was made in Florida and one that was built in Brazil,and a few made in the US, oh yeah, I have a bicycle made in Canda. Nope, I buy what I like, if it's US made that's nice but it's got to be competitively priced and equal quality.
jgiehl
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I only own two guns not made in the US.
My .30-06 made in England by the Firearms Co. of Bridgewater, England.
And my .40 S&W Glock 22.
Other than that they are all made here by American workers.
My .30-06 made in England by the Firearms Co. of Bridgewater, England.
And my .40 S&W Glock 22.
Other than that they are all made here by American workers.
american lockpicker
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I used to only buy American made guns but the quality isn't the same this century as it was in the last. Right now all my guns are made in Europe.
oneounceload
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If you want US companies to turn out quality, you have to goad them by buying quality first, and when they don't compete, they will either change or go out of business.................free market at its best..........
CutMan
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whoever makes what I can TRUST wins. I don't care where it's from.
theotherwaldo
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Off the top of my head, my firearms are from: Italy, Germany, Spain, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Belgium, Finland, Russia, the USSR, Communist China, Rumania, Turkey, France, England, Scotland, South Korea, Yugoslavia, Poland, Brazil, Mexico, Canada, and the USA.
It's all good - especially if it's a milsurp.
It's all good - especially if it's a milsurp.
Buy what you want
I used to buy American, then I realized that it was just a marketing ploy for some companies to sell inferior products.
The car companies used it as an excuse for second rate cars that cost too much. Then the buyers got fed up and went foreign, all of a sudden, American cars are getting better.
Back in the 1980's, you either bought foreign guns if you wanted a double action semi auto or you bought second rate or ugly.
S&W quality had gone way down and was becoming uncompetitive, COLT was pricing itself out of the market and selling fewer and fewer products (where was that double action 9m.m. that THEY NEEDED TO SELL if they wanted to stay in the police/military market?).
RUGER was and is producing reliable and inexpensive firearms, but their P line of autos were CLUNKY. I owned a P90 which was completely reliable, but never felt right in my hand. They could not even come close to a BERETTA, GLOCK or SIG.
Now RUGER and S&W can compete because they are trying to.
Have you notice how the new, small gun companies that compete on at least one point have done well. It is because they know they cannot live of their name or reputation.
Jim
I used to buy American, then I realized that it was just a marketing ploy for some companies to sell inferior products.
The car companies used it as an excuse for second rate cars that cost too much. Then the buyers got fed up and went foreign, all of a sudden, American cars are getting better.
Back in the 1980's, you either bought foreign guns if you wanted a double action semi auto or you bought second rate or ugly.
S&W quality had gone way down and was becoming uncompetitive, COLT was pricing itself out of the market and selling fewer and fewer products (where was that double action 9m.m. that THEY NEEDED TO SELL if they wanted to stay in the police/military market?).
RUGER was and is producing reliable and inexpensive firearms, but their P line of autos were CLUNKY. I owned a P90 which was completely reliable, but never felt right in my hand. They could not even come close to a BERETTA, GLOCK or SIG.
Now RUGER and S&W can compete because they are trying to.
Have you notice how the new, small gun companies that compete on at least one point have done well. It is because they know they cannot live of their name or reputation.
Jim
CutMan
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I don't know what the deal is with hating France, but I've always wanted a PGM Precision 338. They are almost impossible to get here (although that seems to be changing), so my milk money is being saved for an Accuracy International (British).... should be able to pick one up by 2020 or so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PGM_338
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PGM_338
Doxiedad
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I purchase based on the quality and reputation of the firearm. If it's american made that's a bonus. I have 2 Glocks, a Benelli shotgun and a S&W AR15.
huntsman
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I try to avoid MIM and plastic not country of orgin
From my collection, the US made guns are my Ruger Super Redhawk, my Colt Peacekeeper, my Beretta M9, my Marlin 39A, and my Winchester '94. The rest of the collection consists of my Belgian Browning Gold Stalker, my Russian Mosin-Nagant 91/30, my Austrian Glock 22, and my Brazilian Springfield 1911 Loaded. USA made is definitely a bonus, but a well made piece from any country is welcome in this collection.
chicharrones
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Taurus USA is in Florida, but the parent company is in Brazil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_(manufacturer)
http://www.taurus.com.br/
http://www.taurusarmas.com.br/
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