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Our guns eat Remington .22LR like it's candy.
Several of my .22's "EAT" Remington Ammo. I know some .22's are more sensitive.
Do you think .22 Rimfire is becoming obsolete?
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Several of my .22's "EAT" Remington Ammo. I know some .22's are more sensitive.
thewillweeks
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I haven't read every single reply so forgive me if I'm repeating something already said...
1) The cheapest 9mm I'm getting that's brass is about 19-20 cents, show me where you're getting it cheaper please?
2) Some places around here the famine of 22lr is slowly going away, we can always get 22lr for around 8-10 cents, and if I can wait a few days - a week I can get it for 4-6 cents.
3) 22lr as RC said in one of the first replies is a great trainer, low recoil, low cost of the gun, etc etc.
4) I don't really wanna shoot rabbits with a 9mm unless I'm just trying to splatter them.
1) The cheapest 9mm I'm getting that's brass is about 19-20 cents, show me where you're getting it cheaper please?
2) Some places around here the famine of 22lr is slowly going away, we can always get 22lr for around 8-10 cents, and if I can wait a few days - a week I can get it for 4-6 cents.
3) 22lr as RC said in one of the first replies is a great trainer, low recoil, low cost of the gun, etc etc.
4) I don't really wanna shoot rabbits with a 9mm unless I'm just trying to splatter them.
RetiredUSNChief
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I've been around, though busy!
Many guns are picky about what they like, and rimfire brings an added spectrum in my opinion simply due to being rimfire.
Almost all our .22's are bolt action rifles, which I think makes quite a bit of difference with respect to the reliability issues.
Whatever the reason, I can't argue with the fact that everytime we pull the trigger, the Remington's we shoot go "BANG!" and a hole magically appears at the point of aim.
Certainly people shouldn't feed their guns a diet of ammo they don't like, though.
I sold over 6,000 rounds of Remington .22lr (all I had) in 2013 during the height of the panic and won't buy another single round for any price. The stuff was pure garbage. When it didn't fail to fire it failed to eject. I'm talking 3 failures in a 10 round mag where other brands had 0 failures. Continually.
Semi autos.
Semi autos.
brewer12345
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I didn't have FTE or FTF issues with Rem rimfire, the problem was accuracy. Most rimfire I have tried "groups," but not Rem. The most appropriate term would be "pattern." Fine at 40 yards from a scattergun. At 25 yards from a scoped rifle, not so much.
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Remington .22rf.....nossir....I have never fired a box of their .22s without having a failure of some kind, usually a failure to fire.
As to original question.....I found it was extremely short sighted.
The .22rf is, arguably, the most accurate mass produced cartridge; certainly it has some if the finest firearms manufactured to make use of its qualities.
Pete
As to original question.....I found it was extremely short sighted.
The .22rf is, arguably, the most accurate mass produced cartridge; certainly it has some if the finest firearms manufactured to make use of its qualities.
Pete
Da Yooper
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some 22 is for sale at my local walfart for $9.89 per 50 as of this morning
they can keep it
3 years & when they have it for sale to the public they try & screw you
they can keep it
3 years & when they have it for sale to the public they try & screw you
tipoc
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No. I do not think that.
Scotch is not obsolete because there is beer. Tortillas did not go away because there is bread. On the one hand.
On the other hand the question the question kinda screams "New Shooter doing too much thinking with too little fuel for thought".
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It may not become "obsolete" but it has become impossible to find in my neck of the woods. I own 5 rimfire guns and I have not shot any of them in 5 years. 
A few times I have seen rimfire for sale at a gunshow but the price was ridiculous when I can handload .45 ACP for a fraction of the price of what rimfire is selling for.
A few times I have seen rimfire for sale at a gunshow but the price was ridiculous when I can handload .45 ACP for a fraction of the price of what rimfire is selling for.
Reloadron
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While I don't know where your neck of the woods is, here in NE Ohio there is no problem finding 22 LR in brick and mortar or online. Local brick and mortar like Dicks, Cabela's, Gander Mountain and even a few of the Walmarts have been well stocked. A few local small shops are still trying to sell $25 bricks for $50 and there are overpriced sellers at gun shows but with the retailers I mentioned nobody seems to be buying the overpriced stuff. Anyway, seems to be plenty around my neck of the woods.It may not become "obsolete" but it has become impossible to find in my neck of the woods. I own 5 rimfire guns and I have not shot any of them in 5 years.
Ron
tipoc
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The American Rifleman has addressed this question several times over the years recently. Last November they did so again in an article from the Keefe Report which I've linked to just below:
http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/11/19/keefe-report-why-can-t-i-find-22-ammo/
Long and short is that ammo manufacturers have been expanding production across the board since 2008 for centerfire handgun and rifle rounds. A number have opened new plants to do so. The most expensive of ammo for them to make new is rimfire ammo and no American manufacturer has added a new production line for that. No ammo manufacturer has built a new rimfire priming area in maybe 40 years. They have upgraded the priming areas that they have but no new ones. Keefe goes over some reasons for that. Expense is a big factor he reasons.
The other issue is demand which remains very high for .22. Because folks feel it is in high demand, and they may not see it again for awhile, they snatch it. It is in high demand by hoarders who can and do resell it or store it for the rapture or some such.
It is still the most popular round out there. The best for a number of purposes.
I have a friend who applied the same logic to intimate human relations. Seems he had not had any for some time so he figured it had become obsolete or folks had left it behind. He only has the one gun though.
I'm sure what Drail says is true for him. While it's scarce, I've been able to get it but not like before, repeated panics have effected the market. If you look at the world through the prism of your own personal experience your conclusions about the broader world can get skewed some.
tipoc
http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/11/19/keefe-report-why-can-t-i-find-22-ammo/
Long and short is that ammo manufacturers have been expanding production across the board since 2008 for centerfire handgun and rifle rounds. A number have opened new plants to do so. The most expensive of ammo for them to make new is rimfire ammo and no American manufacturer has added a new production line for that. No ammo manufacturer has built a new rimfire priming area in maybe 40 years. They have upgraded the priming areas that they have but no new ones. Keefe goes over some reasons for that. Expense is a big factor he reasons.
The other issue is demand which remains very high for .22. Because folks feel it is in high demand, and they may not see it again for awhile, they snatch it. It is in high demand by hoarders who can and do resell it or store it for the rapture or some such.
It is still the most popular round out there. The best for a number of purposes.
I have a friend who applied the same logic to intimate human relations. Seems he had not had any for some time so he figured it had become obsolete or folks had left it behind. He only has the one gun though.
I'm sure what Drail says is true for him. While it's scarce, I've been able to get it but not like before, repeated panics have effected the market. If you look at the world through the prism of your own personal experience your conclusions about the broader world can get skewed some.
tipoc
5 pages of nope seems like enough to me, and the above post is a great place to end it.
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