Just like the title says do you think after selling primers for 29.99/1000 if supply goes down that manufactures will ever reduce the price? As a new guy I have been reading all I can and alot of threads are about the good ole days but have any of you guys that have been reloading a long time seen prices go down before?
Do you think reloading costs will ever go down?
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jcwit
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Yup, for the same reason as above. Remember "ever" is an awful looooong time.
Sludge
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+1 Beelzy
snuffy
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NO! Once anybody sees somebody is willing to pay inflated,(read gouging), prices, why would they reduce them? The days of $19.95/1k primers are gone. Wait till the inflation from the recent health care fiasco hit. $50.00/1k primers will be the cheapest you could find.
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My dealer just received 100,000 Federal Small Pistol Primers, which were drop shipped directly from Federal. After paying shipping, HazMat and the cost of the primers, it cost him $128.00 a case, or $25.60 per thousand. Now this was on an order of 100,000, so if you're ordering smaller amounts, the shipping and HazMat is going to be more per case.
If I were a dealer today, which I was for 18 years, from 1977 to 1995, it would hardly make it worthwhile to sell these primers for less than $29.99, which is $4.39 per thousand over what he paid for them, delivered. Consider that he had to front the money to make a purchase that size, added to the costs of insurance, utilities and all the other costs to keep his doors open. He'll be lucky to make .25 cents profit per thousand on this lot of primers, that he's been waiting a year to get, since he placed the order last January.
Those are the realities, or as Jack Webb used to say, "just the facts, mam. Just the facts".
Hope this helps.
Fred
If I were a dealer today, which I was for 18 years, from 1977 to 1995, it would hardly make it worthwhile to sell these primers for less than $29.99, which is $4.39 per thousand over what he paid for them, delivered. Consider that he had to front the money to make a purchase that size, added to the costs of insurance, utilities and all the other costs to keep his doors open. He'll be lucky to make .25 cents profit per thousand on this lot of primers, that he's been waiting a year to get, since he placed the order last January.
Those are the realities, or as Jack Webb used to say, "just the facts, mam. Just the facts".
Hope this helps.
Fred
Flash Hole
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$4.39 x 100=$439.00
Not worthwhile to me.
John
Not worthwhile to me.
John
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jfh
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While I believe that this time is different--I also suspect that the 'new economics' of reloading will result in reloading components averaging perhaps 25 cents a round--at a time when store-bought ammo will be $50.00 and up.
When I started reloading twenty years ago, you could just barely still load .45ACP for 5 cents a round. IOW, reloading costs will follow inflation--and we are due for some good time inflation, one way or another.
Jim H.
When I started reloading twenty years ago, you could just barely still load .45ACP for 5 cents a round. IOW, reloading costs will follow inflation--and we are due for some good time inflation, one way or another.
Jim H.
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John, no disrespect intended at all, but that profit is $4.39 per thousand primers, not per primer. Thats a total profit on all 100,000 of $439.
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I believe Flash Hole was refering to bricks and not individual primers.
As loaded as he is, a $4.39 profit per primer would probably be worthwhile.
I believe Flash Hole was refering to bricks and not individual primers.
As loaded as he is, a $4.39 profit per primer would probably be worthwhile.
qajaq59
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Don't complain too much about the cost of reloading supplies now. When the next wave of inflation hits, these will be the "Good Old Days" when things were cheap. And if you don't think so, go check the prices in some of the catalogs from the 1960s. 
ole farmerbuck
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I dont really mind the (rounding up) .02 for powder and .o3 for primer as much as the cost for jacketed bullets loading for handguns. I guess i should use more cast bullets but i prefer jacketed.
Marlin 45 carbine
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ditto beelzy. jacketed pistol (and rifle) have gone up quite a bit too. 'longdayjake' has good 124gr jhp 9mm at the best price I've found but I'm supposing that practice shooting for me anyway is gonna be cast slugs in pistols.
Encoreman
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Look at the bright side, we can still "keep and bear arms", can still get ammo and components even though they are higher. A cheap price to pay for freedom?? Shall we be subjects or citizens?
jcwit
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Allbit poor citizens.
I certainly understand that, and it is irritating, if not understandable, that folks keep paying it, but soon there will be many folks with zero need to buy primers for some time. That has to hurt demand, which will help prices.
The Bushmaster
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Better question..."Do you think the cost of factory ammunition will go down?" Doubtful on both...
Well, you have to consider that it is what it is. Supply and Demand.
A local dealer has no changed his prices except wolf, as his costs went up.
CCI standard primers remain the cheapest on the wholesale level with the BR series the highest. The Win/Wolf are the next highest. RP and Federal are the most expensive standard primers. Most of the chains are sticking the screws to people take what Scheels charges for Federal primers.....
A local dealer has no changed his prices except wolf, as his costs went up.
CCI standard primers remain the cheapest on the wholesale level with the BR series the highest. The Win/Wolf are the next highest. RP and Federal are the most expensive standard primers. Most of the chains are sticking the screws to people take what Scheels charges for Federal primers.....
472x1A/B
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+1 to what sunffy and ReloaderFred said. Compare some old '60's and '70's reloading componet catalogs with prices of today. No way are prices going to go down. Is gas going down? No! When my dad was farming a 50lb bag of seed corn was about $50- $60 a bag, try over $300 a 50lb bag now. So are $$$$ going to fall? Don't count on it.
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"Do you think reloading costs will ever go down? "
I don't think that what I think will have any impact on costs either way.
I don't think that what I think will have any impact on costs either way.
mokin
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I doubt the price of powder and primers will drop much. I seem to have a hard time finding jacketed handgun bullets which have been steadily increasing in both price and scarcity since before the '08 election.
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