Does CCP mark you?

[AlexanderA]

the guy is talking about NOT carrying, even after taking the CCP class, guys. I know that's a shocking thing for us 'gun guys" to consider, but many, many people have the permit itself and don't actually carry. Not even around their own property, with no possible legal repercussions.

The way I read the OP, the issue is about the downside of having a permit, and not about carrying. That is, just by having the permit, you reap the negative consequences (if any), whether you actually carry or not.

 

[Mike J]

Originally posted by Ignition OverrideIs there a website which defines any regulations for a TN CCW holder driving through MS and into AL, or are the laws for carrying in the car identical?

Driving through KY into Evansville IN would also be of help during personal visits.

Maybe a CCW version of Mapquest exists?

I may have missed it but this was asked in post #30 & I didn't see an answer. www.handgunlaw.us is the best site I know of to obtain this information. I always use it to check things out if I am going out of state.

 

[Mike J]

FWIW I am another Georgian & while our drivers licenses are not connected to our weapons licenses I do not take anything for granted when dealing with law enforcement. Georgia is not a duty to inform state & the only way I would is if I thought it possible the officer might see my gun or I had a need to put my hand near it. When pulled over I always attempt to make the officer feel safe & be as polite as possible.
Our gun laws have gotten much better since GeorgiaCarry was formed but all it takes is one bad cop or being in the jurisdiction of one bad department to cause a problem. I try to mind my P's & Q's.

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

I don't drive over the speed limit, nor do I give the police any other reason to pull me over.

That's nice. What about that tail light that just burned out? Or the turn signal that isn't blinking?

The plain fact is that there are so many laws on the books that a police officer can find ANYTHING to pull any person over, if they really wish.

However, I do commend you for your general philosophy...don't give a reason!


I don't know if SC has tied driver's licenses with concealed carry licenses in their databases. However, it wouldn't surprise me one bit, what with them no longer requiring people to submit a photo with their concealed carry applications, because they use the same photograph that's on your driver's license.

My wife, ever distrusting of the government in all aspects, does not want to get a concealed carry permit because she feels it just puts her on a list somewhere.


As for William Bartlett (the Ohio guy in the previous link who was threatened by Officer Harless in Canton, OH) eventually had the CCW charges dismissed. Officer Harless was fired. Bartlett filed a civil law suit against Harless, in which "the case has been settled and dismissed with prejudice" and closed on January 13th, 2013.. So it looks to me like it was settled. Another article said it was settled in court for Bartlett, to the tune of $43,230.

It also appears that a court reversed the firing of Harless, but that Harless had no plans to seek reinstatement at that time.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/granule/USCOURTS-ohnd-5_12-cv-01366/USCOURTS-ohnd-5_12-cv-01366-0

http://www.cantonrep.com/x997480778/Canton-wants-arbitrator-s-ruling-on-Harless-thrown-out/?Start=1


AS FOR ME:

I don't fear that the police know I'm licensed to carry concealed. They either know or they do not before I inform them, if I'm required to inform them or otherwise make the decision to do so.

We can all occupy our days coming up with all kinds of scenarios about what could or could not happen with respect to this. I, however, choose not to waste my time doing so.

The facts are that the good cops aren't the ones to worry about, and they are the majority of the police. And the bad cops? If they've got it in for you, it won't matter too awful much. I'm much better served being what I was raised to be, and what I'm supposed to be: polite, conscientious, and observant of the laws.

Where it matters, I take appropriate precautions. Like if I were to drive through Maryland, for example.

Other than that...I don't worry too much.

 

[WardenWolf]

I don't fear them knowing, but I'd still rather they not know until they ask. That's why I keep an out-of-state permit, besides the fact that it's easier and cheaper to just renew my Arizona one instead of paying to take a 2-hour class that's completely redundant because Arizona and Virginia's permit carry laws are identical and reciprocal. The Virginia class is a joke, too. Two hours and no live-fire testing. The Arizona one was 8 hours with 2 live fire sessions.