Does using special bait at a feeder warn hogs a hunter is present?

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I hunt in Texas and we have feeders on the property and occasionally spread corn on shooting lanes when hot hunting. I like to make fermented corn bait so I will put yeast and corn in with ripe fruit or koolade mix to make special bait. Corn or natural bait work fine but I like doing something special and they seem to usually be more excited about the fermented stuff.

I recently got thinking though, maybe especially around a feeder putting the 'super bait' out there warns the big smart pigs that a hunter may be present. Anyone have an idea? I've only been hunting hogs a few years so don't have enough experience to notice any patterns.
 
That hasn’t been my experience. If it’s yummy enough hogs will be attracted. I don’t think they ave the ability to override their attraction to good smelling food and will take a risk to get to the really good stuff.
 
Warn that a hunter is present? Not exactly. When people use special bait, it is usually something with a strong smell and that results in a significant change to the environment. That can dissuade hogs from showing up for a day or two until that becomes the norm. Some hogs do not like sudden changes to the environment. Other hogs don't care at all. I suspect, the more stressed your hogs are for food, the better baiting works and the more willing the hogs are to ignore changes in the environment that might otherwise be a warning to them.

With that in mind, there are NO miracle baits. I have tried at least a couple dozen commercial and homemade special recipes. I have fermented corn a variety of ways. I have used a variety of jello and koolaid mixes. I have tried a variety of fruits. I have tried using used cooking oil from the local diner (the smell really brings them in, I was told). Honestly, the commercial stuff just seems to be a waste of money and the homemade stuff seems to be a waste of time. Sure, the hogs will eat all of it, but it does not seem to work any better than just plain old corn. In my testing, hogs will eat just about anything except pumpkins, though some people will report hogs eating pumpkins. A real favorite is watermelons, only every time I have tried watermelons, the deer and raccoons have eaten them long before any hogs ever arrived. The hogs I had on camera did not show up early because I had put out watermelons. They actually showed up a couple of hours later than normal, only the rinds being left on the melons, LOL.

Additional case and point, I have set up feeders in new locations, twice, and used miracle attractants and strangely no hogs miraculously appeared. In 6 weeks of testing, hogs never appeared at one feeder and at the other feeder, it took two weeks for hogs to find it, despite the use of strawberry jello mixed with corn.

Usually, when I see people using one of these special baits and claims how well it works, they are using the bait at a location where they have already been baiting hogs, sometimes for years. There success with the bait is just confirmation bias. That a hog came in after the bait was deployed is not a testament to the effectiveness of the bait when the location was already a baiting locality. It is more of a testament to the location being a known feeding spot.

Also, that the hogs ate the bait does not mean that it was a more effective attractant than just plain corn. Hogs eat a lot of stuff, including their own dead.

And yes, I am familiar with the arguments that hogs love fruity smells and that hogs can smell X, Y, and Z for several miles, but chances are you aren't going to attract hogs from several miles. Either you have hogs in the immediate area or you don't.

Bottom line, if miracle "super baits" truly worked better than just plain old corn baiting, we would all be using them and Texas would not have a hog problem. You can use them if it makes you happy.
 
Any animal that uses scent to identify danger, at some point, could learn to be alarmed at the smell of a different bait. Especially if they live after witnessing it leading to the demise of others.
 
Pigs aren’t nearly that smart. I’ve got a German Shepherd which hates being kenneled. If I throw a treat in the kennel, she’ll eventually go in there to get it. She’s pretty intelligent, so she’ll hang back for a little bit, but she can’t resist that primal urge for food. Pigs aren’t any smarter than that dog. If they were, they’d be nearly impossible to trap. Sure, they know something is up. Older pigs will eventually learn not to walk into a trap, but they’ll never just completely avoid a free meal.
 
I have tried corn, corn and grape soda, corn and sow in heat, corn grape soda and sow in heat.
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Plain corn or corn and grape soda sometimes takes a couple days to catch hogs.
Using the sow in heat nets one or two sows with the rest being juvenile boars. But it's always had pigs the next morning. Could be luck or it could actually work.
 
Don't fall into all this BS about scents and calls, all just that, BS. Hogs are glorified livestock, not game animals.

Actually, calls can work and work well. My only problem with them is that it seems to be a low percentage success, but some people have better success. However, there is something amazing about seeing hogs literally running to the sound of the call.



By your assessment, I would think that as livestock, they would be ready and willing to come to calls. For literally thousands of years, hogs have been free ranged in the Old World and free ranged in the New World for hundreds of years whereby collecting up the hogs from down in the bottoms or meadows was done largely by calling.
 
Warn that a hunter is present? Not exactly. When people use special bait, it is usually something with a strong smell and that results in a significant change to the environment. That can dissuade hogs from showing up for a day or two until that becomes the norm. Some hogs do not like sudden changes to the environment. Other hogs don't care at all. I suspect, the more stressed your hogs are for food, the better baiting works and the more willing the hogs are to ignore changes in the environment that might otherwise be a warning to them.

With that in mind, there are NO miracle baits. I have tried at least a couple dozen commercial and homemade special recipes. I have fermented corn a variety of ways. I have used a variety of jello and koolaid mixes. I have tried a variety of fruits. I have tried using used cooking oil from the local diner (the smell really brings them in, I was told). Honestly, the commercial stuff just seems to be a waste of money and the homemade stuff seems to be a waste of time. Sure, the hogs will eat all of it, but it does not seem to work any better than just plain old corn. In my testing, hogs will eat just about anything except pumpkins, though some people will report hogs eating pumpkins. A real favorite is watermelons, only every time I have tried watermelons, the deer and raccoons have eaten them long before any hogs ever arrived. The hogs I had on camera did not show up early because I had put out watermelons. They actually showed up a couple of hours later than normal, only the rinds being left on the melons, LOL.

Additional case and point, I have set up feeders in new locations, twice, and used miracle attractants and strangely no hogs miraculously appeared. In 6 weeks of testing, hogs never appeared at one feeder and at the other feeder, it took two weeks for hogs to find it, despite the use of strawberry jello mixed with corn.

Usually, when I see people using one of these special baits and claims how well it works, they are using the bait at a location where they have already been baiting hogs, sometimes for years. There success with the bait is just confirmation bias. That a hog came in after the bait was deployed is not a testament to the effectiveness of the bait when the location was already a baiting locality. It is more of a testament to the location being a known feeding spot.

Also, that the hogs ate the bait does not mean that it was a more effective attractant than just plain corn. Hogs eat a lot of stuff, including their own dead.

And yes, I am familiar with the arguments that hogs love fruity smells and that hogs can smell X, Y, and Z for several miles, but chances are you aren't going to attract hogs from several miles. Either you have hogs in the immediate area or you don't.

Bottom line, if miracle "super baits" truly worked better than just plain old corn baiting, we would all be using them and Texas would not have a hog problem. You can use them if it makes you happy.

The above I believe is well summarized and has been my experience as well.

The ONLY thing I have used over the years that I believe has proven to be somewhat an attractant.... is spraying trees with a mixture Kresodip. It has a strong creosote smell and every time I have used it....hogs have found it and started rubbing the trees. BUT I don't hold it to be a miracle attractant, it simply serves to make the area (that already has some hogs) more attractive to stay in or use.

Food baits of various types have done nothing for me that regular corn doesn't seem to do. IF you have hogs in the area...they will find it. IF you don't they aren't going to come from far away if other conditions are not favorable.
 
Any animal that uses scent to identify danger, at some point, could learn to be alarmed at the smell of a different bait. Especially if they live after witnessing it leading to the demise of others.
Interesting comment. There’s a deep connection between smell and danger in our lizard brains. If you ever smell something and then get sick after, you will never forget that smell.
 
I don't think things like kool aid or jello mix have very "natural" odors, but the pigs seem to like them, and never seemed to have questions about how it got there.
 
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