Does your company policy prohibit you from carrying in your private vehicle?

[Logistar]

I have a friend who has been given an ultimatum at work regarding their company policy. A new company policy (Private employer) states that the employer may seach you or your vehicle at any time without cause and without reason.

Weapons are prohibited and if found would result in termination. My friend got a CCW and doesn't plan to carry the gun inside. But inspection of vehicles would keep them from having protection to/from work. (Which is why they got their CCW in the first place.)

This is at a college but KY law does NOT forbid it. In fact, it seems to say that an employer cannot keep an employee from carrying in their PERSONAL vehicle. (See at bottom of page if interested.)

I would like to know how many of you CAN carry IN YOUR CAR as far as your company policy is concerned. (I am not concerned with carry inside your building or removing your weapon from the vehicle).

It is good to see someone standing up for our rights though it appears it will cost them their job.

It is sad that our freedom is disappearing.

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A private but not a public employer may prohibit employees or other persons holding a concealed deadly weapons license from carrying concealed deadly weapons, or ammunition, or both in vehicles owned by the employer, but may not prohibit employees or other persons holding a concealed deadly weapons license from carrying concealed deadly weapons, or ammunition, or both in vehicles owned by the employee, except that the Justice Cabinet may prohibit an employee from carrying any weapons, or ammunition, or
both other than the weapons, or ammunition, or both issued or authorized to be used by the employee of the cabinet, in a vehicle while transporting persons under the employee's supervision or jurisdiction.

 

[Zak Smith]

It is sad that our freedom is disappearing.

A business owner ought to have the liberty to dispose of his property as he sees fit, including controlling access to it. The employee likewise has the liberty to work somewhere else.

 

[R.H. Lee]

Waiting for the libertarians to congregate and uphold whatever abuses employers want to inflict..................

Edit: whoops. Zak sneaked in under the radar. Was I right or what.

 

[Zak Smith]

Already beatcha to it.

You can't have it both ways.

 

[goalie]

The hospital I work at is posted with "no guns" signs. Due to an incident I had on the way to work, and the subsequent police response to the ICU where I was working that night (I found it prudent to leave the scene and meet the police at the hospital, as nobody was shot and I was scared) pretty much everyone at the 600+ bed hospital now knows I come to work with a handgun on my passenger seat as I go through the ghetto.

After the incident I was approached by senior hospital administration and it was said that it was good that I was OK. Nothing was ever said then, or since, about me having a firearm in my vehicle, and it has been a little over a year since it happened.

All in all, I have to say that Allina treated me better than the Minneapolis PD, despite their signs.

I love my job, but I would quit if I was not allowed protection on my way to and from work.

 

[SADshooter]

I work for a municipal govt., and while new state law allows CHL holders to carry on premises, I am barred as a condition of employment from carrying onto the property or keeping a firearm secured in my vehicle on city property. I hate it, but I haven't found alternate employment (for a host of reasons) and I haven't vioulated the policy I (grudgingly) agreed to abide by. It sucks, but I need the money.

SADShooter

 

[Shovelhead]

I work on a Military installation.
Random vehicle checks for those entering and leaving the installation.
As well as parking lot sweeps by Security Forces Officers using dogs.
The one choice that's not in the poll that would be most appropriate to my situation would be "I would be arrested for that."

 

[mons meg]

Ditto what Shovelhead said. I can carry in my car all day in OK with my CCW, but I don't want any of what they'll hand me if they find a pistol in my car coming onto an AFB.

 

[Sindawe]

When my former employer was assimilated by a large mutlinational scientific/health care corporation, the new owners put into place a policy that banned weapons in the work place (guns, knives and the like) as well as a policy that employee's vehicles parked on company property could be searched with out the notice or consent of the employee/owner.

As a result, I began parking on the street in front of the facility, which is city property, not company property. Folks asked why I did that, so I just pointed to the new policies.

 

[cracked butt]

My company has such a policy. The day that the new policy was added to our company handbook last year, I went right to the president and asked if it were all right if I kept guns in my truck if I kept them locked up, out of sight and didn't advertise their presence since I often go target shooting, turkey hunting, waterfowling, right after work as I work 3rd shift. He was actually OK with it. It helps that I work for a small company and know the president on a first name basis.

 

[Hawk]

My employer prefers my firearms to be brought into the building so as to reduce the risk of theft from my car.

Firearms in the car are, however, quite acceptable.

I work in Texas.

 

[monsternav]

Work on a Navy Base. No Firearms allowed.

 

[TarpleyG]

Our Employee Handbook states that weapons are not allowed on company property which I assume includes the parking lot. Nowhere does it state that a random search is a condition of employment. I could always park across the street I guess.

Greg

 

[Rockrivr1]

The company I currently work for does not allow you to carry in the building, but has no provision on what's in your car. Unfortunately though my company is being bought by a rather big company and the new handbook that came out last week indicates no guns on premise to include the parking lot. They also indicate they can search you or your vehicle with no prior warning.

As a side note, I'd seriously doubt they would actually implement a search. Has this happened to anyone?

 

[Werewolf]

They do now but as of Nov 1, 2005 I can tell 'em to pack sand.

OK passed a new law holding harmless employers whose employees have a weapon stolen from their car while in a company parking lot that is afterwards used in a crime. In addition the law provides that any employer that tries to violate the provision or fires an employee for having a weapon properly locked up in his car can be sued and forced to comply with the law.

This law was passed to cover the nit-picking BS that some employers complained about in a similar law passed last year but which was put on hold by the courts when 5 major OK employers brought suit against the state.

I imagine the same 5 will do the same thing this year. We'll see. I'm crossing my fingers.

 

[FPrice]

I not only carry in my car, but I am expected to carry my CCW while on the job.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. I am working out of a gun store.

 

[BryanP]

I work for State Govt. As far as I know there's no rule against having one in my car. Unfortunately there are big signs on every State bldg that say I can't carry inside unless I am a LEO.

 

[71Commander]

Wether I had a gun or not, I wouldn't let anyone not in LE search my vehicle.

 

[BostonGeorge]

Wether I had a gun or not, I wouldn't let anyone not in LE search my vehicle.

BINGO! We have a winner! It really doens't matter what the policy says, if they break into your car and then try to fire you, there could be serious reprecutions.

 

[kbheiner7]

Does your company policy prohibit you from carrying in your private vehicle?

Company policy says it's a no-no. It does not prohibit me from carrying in my private vehicle.

Searches are interesting. Would employers break into a locked car?

For that matter, what it you carried at work? Could they legally search your person?

I know LE can conduct reasonable searches, but I have a hard time picturing this in todays workplace.

 

[JohnKSa]

The employee likewise has the liberty to work somewhere else.

Easy to say--but when you have a lot of years at a company, a wife with a chronic illness, specialized skills and your employer suddenly changes its policy on firearms, it's not quite that straightforward.

How about this--visitors to the facility can have guns in their vehicles. Anyone can drive off the street and park in the lot and it is ILLEGAL for the company to prohibit them from having a firearm in their vehicle. On the other hand, I've worked there for many years, they've checked my background over and over but I can't.

Sure, I could quit any time. Getting another job that uses my skill set, that pays as well, and offers a health plan with all my wife's doctors is pretty unlikely.

Parking off the company property is not an option due to the somewhat remote location and very large size of my workplace.

 

[Dead]

My company's policy is "You can CARRY ON THE JOB, if you are authorized by the state"... Now seeing that CCW is nearly impossible to obtain....

 

[Carlos]

I know LE can conduct reasonable searches, but I have a hard time picturing this in todays workplace.

It happens all the time.

Read about the AOL case where people were fired for guns in vehicles while parked OFF company premises.

This country is out of control.

 

[Zrex]

My company actively encourages its employees to carry legally.

 

[autospike]

Carlos,

Do you have a link to that story. That is extremely troubling.