Tactical, sporting, hunting, target shooting...regardless; any information is a good thing, is it not?
Yep.
The problem still exists that folks do not want to learn or discuss, instead rationalize and qualify a shotgun platform and accessories.
Old School I am. Learn the correct basic fundamentals with a bone stock shotgun , with a full stock, with no PG, or anything else.
Anytime someone has a problem with shooting, it is always one or more of the basic fundamentals that needs to be addressed.
These basic fundamentals apply to clays, hunting and even self defense.
Folks buy shotguns, accessories and when they go see someone like Awerbuck, the real deal trainers and users don't have all that heat shield this and fuzzy dice that and...
Personally, a PG fore end impedes my ability to use a shotgun as they effective, versiltle weapon it is.
Ditto for AR type stocks.
My lessons were private, on a Hot Range, 3 Rules of Gun Safety , Big Boy Rules.
If the objective was "Survive" then I was to survive. Seriously, we did not us a start buzzer, as there is not "start buzzer" in real life.
My start might be the gunshot that hits the vehicle door ( wax bullets).
I will share a Carbine with a mag will hang up getting out of a vehicle , fast.
Later when PG forends came to be, these too will hang up, and they will break.
Mentors , on purpose would not let me have spare ammo, and often loaded the shotgun, and my sidearms.
Survive, was the objective.
I have busted barrels, and stocks, going after steel "threats", 3 D steel threats, and busting out a window , then going to town to kill a "driver" in a vehicle attempting to leave with a kidnapped person.
Re: Pistol Gripped Only (PGO).
I hate the damn things.
That said, I have had to carry one, as did my bodyguards. Also I have assisted with Armored Car Drivers that have to use this platform, qualify and re-qual with one.
I will start these ACD out with a bone stock, full stock, version of the PGO they are issued, and start with the basic fundamentals.
I mean all the back to eye dominance, using a BB Gun with no sights, primer only hulls, dummy shells to load, unload, and when we get to live fire, light target loads.
Work up to the issued 2 3/4" , nine pellet 00 buckshot issued load.
Then...we snag the issued gun, and go back to basics again, and address the limits and other challenges the PGO presents.
Again, primer only hulls, dummy shells, light loads...working back up to the issued buckshot load.
WE had an interesting thing happen with PG Fore ends, as we were messing with these when they came out.
Now all of us were old school , including the younger folks, and this includes ladies.
The girls said it did allow them to hold up a gun one handed, but, it held the gun up "wrong". Meaning, it was not as the correct basics were instilled in them.
Note: Lessons = training, Setups = stages.
There were no gun schools when I was coming up, so these terms are what I were raised with.
Bleh...The set up was, I was supposed to get a gun to a lady during a civil unrest.
The lady was 19 years old.
Damn fore end "caught" on the wheel of the vehicle of which I was sliding it under.
Another set up, this same 19 year is supposed to toss me a shotgun, and again the balance was off and this "toss" was whomper jawed.
We were not the only ones, as all of us had problems. WE are so old school, these new fangled guns impede and limit what we are so used to doing with a bone stock gun.
Shooting port side up, port side down, and back and over our head.
Dang PG messes us up.
Heck, I hate to say this but I had better hits with a PGO shooting back and over my head ( I was being extracted and shooting as I was being extracted).
Yes, it is all good, just dad-burn it! I am so old school and do not want folks to learn on a crutch, no matter they are going to use a shotgun for.
If one loses that crutch, they will fall down.
Here is another "Shocker", The 28 ga is used by a lot of known instructors, and other instructors as well. A lot of our members use this gun as a teaching tool.
Did ya know the 28 ga is used to teach defensive shotgunning?
Yep.
Mentors were doing this when I was a brat.
And...the 28 ga has been the defensive shotgun for folks and stopped threats.
A 28 ga is .550, which is not far off from a .54 cal which has a history of killing man, and animal.
Did I mention the 28 ga slugs?
It might surprise folks how handy and versatile a bone stock 28 ga pump, even with a fixed choke 26" barrel , really is.
Never mess with a old man with a well worn 28 ga 870 pump, bone stock. He is one with that gun , as evidenced by the quail, doves, wabbits, squirrels, ducks, geese, deer and...we won't get into the threat he stopped against multiple VCAs, but he did.
See, my problem is, care.
So when Dave Williams shares about the Swamp Shoot, and what works...
When Gordon , Lee Lapin and others attend a Awerbuck class...
Others attend a class by Clint Smith ( who btw keeps a single shot 20 ga bedside)...
I pay attention and am old enough to see correct basic fundamentals when they are shared, or I see pictures, or video.
I wish folks would just go see folks in whatever they want to do about a shotgun, get lessons and learn before they buy a gun.
WE have folks out there that are going to get not only themselves injured and dead, those around them too if something goes down,
This bothers me...
The tacticool crowd doesn't seem to value light weight and proper balance. 30 lbs of CRAP hanging off a gun might be tacticool, but it's not practicool. They act like I can't possibly defend myself with my coach gun, only two rounds, how the hell am I going to kill a zombie that takes 4 rounds of 00 to put down? 20 gauge? MY GAWD MAN, you'd DIE with that POS. 
) is alright in my book and having any intelligent interaction about fine doubles or heatshields for a mavric 88 is ok with me.
