Don’t buy the marketing...unless you want to.

[Bfh_auto]

That is what I mean to, I reload the car-lokt in 165 grains for my 06". I'm sure there are better bullets with better coefficient but dropped my first deer with one and I've been loyal since.

Even their factory ammo is more than accurate enough for 0-300 yards.
My experience is the higher the bc. The harder I need to work to make it shoot.

 

[MaxP]

Some newfangled camo is some of the most comfortable hunting clothing available. I’ve been using Sitka gear for years and they have an excellent layering system for every hunting occasion that I encounter.

 

[Offhand McFlan]

I have absolutely zero interest in the modern marketing angle on hunting. I have been within good shooting distance of deer countless times when I was simply going for a walk in the woods wearing street clothes after work. Say between 25 - 100 yards, depending on terrain. Once I even had a buck stalk me, my wife and my son. He actually came within about 25 yards and made some cocky noises and gestures at us. I was carrying a 45 and could have calmly pulled it out and popped him right in the neck if I wanted to. Another time I approached a felled tree laying across a trail. On the other side of the foliage was a 6- 8 pointer just standing there. We scared each other but again, I was armed with the same 45 and could probably have smoked him right in the neck too. He didnt clear my potential line of fire for about 6 seconds.

Similar encounters have happened to me more times than i can count, while otherwise fairly unprepared other than simply being armed. So using scents, camo, optics and tree stands, and whatever other gadgetry modern hunters use which costs mucho dinero has absolutely no appeal to me at all.

What I would do however, is jnvest in some type of call or maybe just learn to do it manually. Once back in the early 90's I walked out on my back porch early in the morning in my PJ's and stretched and took a deep breath wbich I let out with a "whoooosh"! Within seconds about 3 does started coming out of the woods and up the hill staring right at me! Again, if I had been armed, and was calm and slow aquiring my targets, there could have been alot of dead meat around that morning. I'll never forget that. Ive tried to reproduce that result in other places but I never had the success I had that morning luring deer so close.

My idea of hunting is the way the common man did it in the first half of the 20th century, without anything but a .257 Roberts with iron sights, a small pack with simple tools and gear, and an old fashioned plaid flannel hat with ear flaps and wool jacket like grandpa used to wear. That's my ideal and I'm stickin to it.

 

[Mn Fats]

I wear blaze orange for whitetail hunting. They don't seem to notice me. I get meat and also remain safe and legal.

I thought camo was mainly for duck hunting with blinds. If your full camo for deer and covering yourself in piss, good luck to ya. But in my experience it's not necessary.

 

[Offhand McFlan]

I have been camo shamed more then once, never stoped me from harvesting a animal. I do like wearing more natural colors with out being to brown I do live in New York After All some of them city hunters will shoot at anything that moves..

I lived in Orange and Ulster counties for 36 years and don't I know it!
They just park anywhere and proceed to jump in the woods and hunt wherever they please ignoring everything else.

 

[.308 Norma]

That is what I mean to, I reload the car-lokt in 165 grains for my 06". I'm sure there are better bullets with better coefficient but dropped my first deer with one and I've been loyal since.

I'll go further than that - I could get by with factory loaded Remington CoreLokt ammo for all of my big game hunting. I did for a lot of years. However, I love handloading, and I kinda like the feeling I get when I quickly and cleanly kill an animal with one of my own loads. Not that I couldn't have done the same thing with a round of factory Remington CoreLokt ammo, but it just feels better when I built the round myself.

 

[ms6852]

I'll go further than that - I could get by with factory loaded Remington CoreLokt ammo for all of my big game hunting. I did for a lot of years. However, I love handloading, and I kinda like the feeling I get when I quickly and cleanly kill an animal with one of my own loads. Not that I couldn't have done the same thing with a round of factory Remington CoreLokt ammo, but it just feels better when I built the round myself.

Exactly, for hunting at the price point that they are for factory ammo selling up to 50% less than other ammo, this has been my go to brand. Deer or elk won't know that they got killed with a less expensive ammo.

 

[jmorris]

This is yet another “it depends” area for me.

We have a truck that has an unusual horn, if it’s honked, animals come running. Same thing goes for the sound of feeders going off.

When we baited specific areas for hogs and had to bury the corn so the deer wouldn’t eat all of it, they were standing there watching us, less than 200 yards away.

Other stuff, that thinks or knows you intend to kill it are either killed or acquire the ability to avoid you. I can tell you for fact that avoiding movement is much more key than what you are wearing.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

If your full camo for deer and covering yourself in piss, good luck to ya. But in my experience it's not necessary.

I don't know about the piss business, but so little in hunting has to do with absolutes. Most things seem to be dominated by what is advantageous or disadvantageous. You can get away with just about anything when it comes to hunting. Heck, that is how it is that newbies often manage to do so well despite doing so many thing wrong, LOL.

I can tell you for fact that avoiding movement is much more key than what you are wearing.

And while I agree less movement is better than more movement, several times we have been taking pics of a killed hog, lights on, moving around, rolling the hog over to measure it, checking wounds, talking, etc., only to discover there was another hog within shooting range. It is amazing what you can get away with, sometimes. Of course, there is no telling how many times we have been doing the same thing and ended up scaring off hogs that we didn't know were there.

 

[jmorris]

And while I agree less movement is better than more movement, several times we have been taking pics of a killed hog, lights on, moving around, rolling the hog over to measure it, checking wounds, talking, etc., only to discover there was another hog within shooting range.

I have been baiting for hogs and had deer come out to the field where I was putting out the corn and stand there waiting for me, my buddy and the dog to get back into the truck and leave. So I know animals can act oddly or even unexpectedly.

Have seen lots of animals circle back when they noticed the one you just dropped doesn’t run away. I imagine the hog that was watching you would have acted the same if you were wearing camo or rainbow tie dye though.