Justin
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Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by utter dropped-on-his-head-as-a-toddler stupidity.
Dumbest thing I have ever heard!
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rchernandez
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Remember the teenager spray painting grafitti on cars in Singapore? And the subsequent canning he got from the Singapore authorities?
Maybe our police officers should be re-armed with canes as a first level measure...backed up by a squadron/2nd level response unit...outfitted with flame-throwers?!
Too harsh?!
Maybe our police officers should be re-armed with canes as a first level measure...backed up by a squadron/2nd level response unit...outfitted with flame-throwers?!
Too harsh?!
"Sad to say, but "political correctness" tends to equate with pure idiocy!
On the other hand, "articulation" can be used effectively. Many police agencies have adopted the strategy of using "Shoot to STOP". A few have also thrown in the "politically correct" slogan of "Have REVERENCE for life". What they mean when combined is to STILL shoot, but when the threat is "stopped", even if the bad guy is still breathing, call for an ambulance. I can deal with that!
"Winging" a suspect is unrealistic, even for the the most accurate of shooters. The BAD GUY moves and the "pin-point" accuracy of a highly-trained SWAT long-rifleman suddenly turns from being a non-lethal aiming point to a "lethal" striking point of the bullet. Charge that highly-trained SWAT shooter? "Hey, the bad guy CHEATED by making a sudden move!"
Of course, many of our elected and appointed "representatives" in government are "experts" when it comes to REAL LIFE situations! Former Attorney General Janet Reno testified that "assault weapons are MORE DEADLY than other firearms". U.S. Senator Diane Fineswine, while holding up a LEGAL semi-auto "civilian" version of the AK-47, exclaimed that "MACHINEGUNS such as this have got to go!". Another elected "representative", while discussing the .50 BMG for "civilian" usage, claimed that tracer rounds were "heat-seeking" bullets! Numerous other "representatives" in government have been hood-winked into believing that the so-called assault weapons are "evil". Just don't tell those "experts" in power that ALL firearms, bar NONE, are "military-styled" and have their roots within the weapons used by our military forces! Yep, even muzzle-loaded flintlocks! "Assault flintlocks"!
On the other hand, "articulation" can be used effectively. Many police agencies have adopted the strategy of using "Shoot to STOP". A few have also thrown in the "politically correct" slogan of "Have REVERENCE for life". What they mean when combined is to STILL shoot, but when the threat is "stopped", even if the bad guy is still breathing, call for an ambulance. I can deal with that!
"Winging" a suspect is unrealistic, even for the the most accurate of shooters. The BAD GUY moves and the "pin-point" accuracy of a highly-trained SWAT long-rifleman suddenly turns from being a non-lethal aiming point to a "lethal" striking point of the bullet. Charge that highly-trained SWAT shooter? "Hey, the bad guy CHEATED by making a sudden move!"
Of course, many of our elected and appointed "representatives" in government are "experts" when it comes to REAL LIFE situations! Former Attorney General Janet Reno testified that "assault weapons are MORE DEADLY than other firearms". U.S. Senator Diane Fineswine, while holding up a LEGAL semi-auto "civilian" version of the AK-47, exclaimed that "MACHINEGUNS such as this have got to go!". Another elected "representative", while discussing the .50 BMG for "civilian" usage, claimed that tracer rounds were "heat-seeking" bullets! Numerous other "representatives" in government have been hood-winked into believing that the so-called assault weapons are "evil". Just don't tell those "experts" in power that ALL firearms, bar NONE, are "military-styled" and have their roots within the weapons used by our military forces! Yep, even muzzle-loaded flintlocks! "Assault flintlocks"!
MrTwigg
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Hey, a "Dumb Politican" thread...
and it's not about anybody from Boston or even Massachusetts ! (For once !)
and it's not about anybody from Boston or even Massachusetts ! (For once !)
There may be rare instances where an officer could choose to shoot to wound, or to shoot to disarm. One instance is the example of an officer that was very close to a suspect that had a gun trained on himself. The shot was only about 5 yds or so, and at a stationary target. Another is when a sniper shot a gun out of a man's hand at longer yardage. Even then, a miss could have left a dangerous and more deadly situation in place. However, when the life of the officer or another is in imminent danger, and a miss would likely cause death to the officer or another innocent person, it is stupid or even criminal to attempt a shot that most officers cannot make under training conditions, much less a life and death situation. With most police shooters, it can only be hoped that they can make a "stopping" shot when aiming at center of mass. Even good shots to center of mass can fail to stop a deadly situation, calling for multiple shots.
Since most criminals have their hearts in the wrong place, seems it would meet the letter of a new law to shoot where his heart is not expected to be
Yup, miss center of mass (approximately, for those purists here) and hit some innocent child nearby....yeah right Mr. Stupid **** senator.
This is obviously a ploy to get our police killed and replaced with UAE guards. Read the newspapers, twelve hundred shots fired...no one injured.
Yup, miss center of mass (approximately, for those purists here) and hit some innocent child nearby....yeah right Mr. Stupid **** senator.
This is obviously a ploy to get our police killed and replaced with UAE guards. Read the newspapers, twelve hundred shots fired...no one injured.
Justin said:
I shall have to keep that as a banner! Thanks!!!
NineseveN
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Justin said:
Hehe, the `devil theory' of sociology.
BigRobT
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Maybe he should "ride along" with a cop in one of the seemier sides of the city. Witness a gunfight and SEE what happens during the "heat of battle" ?? Or even as StickJockey suggested, training at some training facility. It's quite apparent that this politician has ZERO clue of what's involved in self-defense, shooting, or much of anything related to guns. Ideally, yes, shoot to wound is preferable in the long run, but is it a realistic view?? Hardly
Carl N. Brown
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First homicide we had in three years in my home town (pop. 45000)
involved a situation where a son stabbed the father in the leg as
the father was abusing the mother. Cut the femoral artery. The
father bled to death on the way to the hospital. Unintentional
but voluntary manslaughter.
If you don't shoot center mass to stop, where do you shoot? The leg?
A cop might be able to justify lethal force against an imminent threat
of death or bodily harm, but "shoot to wound" and the suspect bleeds
to death is what, voluntary manslaughter? How do you legally gustify
an unintentional homicide?
The politician who dreamed up this crap ought to be required to try
a "wounding" shot on a animated turning target under simulated stress.
It is not humanly possible.
involved a situation where a son stabbed the father in the leg as
the father was abusing the mother. Cut the femoral artery. The
father bled to death on the way to the hospital. Unintentional
but voluntary manslaughter.
If you don't shoot center mass to stop, where do you shoot? The leg?
A cop might be able to justify lethal force against an imminent threat
of death or bodily harm, but "shoot to wound" and the suspect bleeds
to death is what, voluntary manslaughter? How do you legally gustify
an unintentional homicide?
The politician who dreamed up this crap ought to be required to try
a "wounding" shot on a animated turning target under simulated stress.
It is not humanly possible.
Patterson just went too far.
What he should propose is that the rules for using deadly force for the police should be the same as the rules for citizens. If deadly force is used by a LEO then the DA treats it just like he would if the force had been used by a citizen.
Would this keep the police from doing their jobs. Beats me - I'm not a cop but right off the top of my head I can't see any circumstance where it would.
And the up side is that situations like Waco and Randy Weaver would be avoided.
What he should propose is that the rules for using deadly force for the police should be the same as the rules for citizens. If deadly force is used by a LEO then the DA treats it just like he would if the force had been used by a citizen.
Would this keep the police from doing their jobs. Beats me - I'm not a cop but right off the top of my head I can't see any circumstance where it would.
And the up side is that situations like Waco and Randy Weaver would be avoided.
wolf_from_wv
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See how easy that was? Boom, still alive. Now we question him. You know why we question him? Because I got him in the leg. I didn't shoot him full of holes or try to jump off a building with him.
Standing Wolf
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[WINK] A representative of the Democratic (sic) party, perhaps? [/WINK]
cambeul41
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Theories are ideas to be tested.
The theory might SOUND not "that" bad, but if it doesn't work the theory is not good. Theories ar ideas to be tested. Fail the test, back to the drawing board.
SomeKid said:
The theory might SOUND not "that" bad, but if it doesn't work the theory is not good. Theories ar ideas to be tested. Fail the test, back to the drawing board.
Missouri Mule
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Well hell...Why don't we mandate the Criminal vs. the Cop sudden death rule while we're at it?
You know that's where they would simply trade shots one at a time until sombody cries uncle!!!!!!
This type of garbage isn't dumb at all..That would actually give it some sort of credibility.
What it is , is the liberal freaking retard mentality.
What kind of drugs are this people on? I'm thinking thorazine or something similar would be more appropriate.........
You know that's where they would simply trade shots one at a time until sombody cries uncle!!!!!!
This type of garbage isn't dumb at all..That would actually give it some sort of credibility.
What it is , is the liberal freaking retard mentality.
What kind of drugs are this people on? I'm thinking thorazine or something similar would be more appropriate.........
What would deserve consideration though would be for police to not chase a perceived bad guy's car in a high speed pursuit only to find he had consumed a beer and was afraid of going to jail. Cops around here seem to be over-zealous with using the accelerator.
Maybe the politician would agree to a swap if he is just trying to make a name for himself.
Only other reason for a politician to propose the other would be if he were on someone's payroll, other than the city
Anyone know when season opens on politicians?
Maybe the politician would agree to a swap if he is just trying to make a name for himself.
Only other reason for a politician to propose the other would be if he were on someone's payroll, other than the city
Anyone know when season opens on politicians?
Sinsaba
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Excuse me!!! Please tell me you are kidding! That would mean that all I would have to do to not be arrested is have a fast car!! You are kidding right?
stevelyn
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Think the politician is dumb? Doesn't say much about the retards that voted for him either.:banghead:
Taurus 617 CCW
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Another prime example of a cop doing his job in the line of duty with only a second or two to react and a moron getting all the time in the world to analyze it. That sounds like a good way to get rid of all the officers of Albany. Who wants to work for a precinct that requires officers to be snipers with a sidearm?
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