EAA rant

[hardluk1]

saturno . Another anti witness person. Interesting.I did say round style right ? YES Just missed the ( and old style guns). New style tops and full size frames out there have very little real problems with frames. Except for dummbies feeding them a steady diet of hot ammo. Now why would you shoot only the hottest rounds out,does witness say you should? OR can?
You could have a glock, blowing up ,a s&w model 29 shooting those same hot loads in 44 and have the frame bend ,break or just jamb. Even those fine italian pistols our goverment likes to send to or troops had a run of 9mm and 40's break'n frames. Would you shoot extra hot loads in a colt or s&w or taurus compact. Should i keep looking and typeing about gun problems? most brought on by a stupid gun owner.Some people ain't got the common sents god gave a mushroom. To bad you ain't shoot'n a s&w 29-1,-2, maybe -3 also, with those hot loads.

 

[mcflury]

I already mentioned above that the threaded barrels will not fit the Limited, Stock and Gold Team models, as they have a tapered cone for positive lock up. The 6" is not tapered cone; it's just a straight profile match barrel. The threaded unit is a 5-1/4", also straight profile, designed to fit standard witness pistols. IT WILL NOT FIT Gold Team, Limited, Stock or Stock II models.

I tried to help you understand what it is you have and don't have, but you seem insistant that this problem is EAA's fault and that they're just a horrible company who is determined to piss you off. If you want a silenced Witness, it has to be the standard or match model. No one makes a threaded tapered cone barrel for the elites.

thanks MachIVshooter i am already aware that the elite needs a cone installed. That question was addressed by EAAs smith they answered that question on call number sixteen
also the 6 iThat is the way i am going to address the situation and again like stated before thench match barrel idea came from hennings website where he stated that he purchased one for his elite and his gunsmith made a cone for it. gun is great its EAAs CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT FAILED when he called me a liar.
But hey I know my gun only cost sixteen hundred and its only their top of the line model and i only spent and extra five hundred in accessories. i believe the first class customer service only comes with the four thousand dollar mark.

 

[mcflury]

saturno . Another anti witness person. Interesting.I did say round style right ? YES Just missed the ( and old style guns). New style tops and full size frames out there have very little real problems with frames. Except for dummbies feeding them a steady diet of hot ammo. Now why would you shoot only the hottest rounds out,does witness say you should? OR can?
You could have a glock, blowing up ,a s&w model 29 shooting those same hot loads in 44 and have the frame bend ,break or just jamb. Even those fine italian pistols our goverment likes to send to or troops had a run of 9mm and 40's break'n frames. Would you shoot extra hot loads in a colt or s&w or taurus compact. Should i keep looking and typeing about gun problems? most brought on by a stupid gun owner.Some people ain't got the common sents god gave a mushroom. To bad you ain't shoot'n a s&w 29-1,-2, maybe -3 also, with those hot loads.

Just so everyone knows i am not antiwitness the pistol is badass. JUst EAAs customer service sucks this one instance your instance may vary. but I do recommend if you have an question about the witness go the hennings or brian enos or do as i did email tangfolio

 

[saturno_v]

Hardluk1

Corbon, Double Tap and Buffalo Bore are SAAMI compliant 10mm Auto loads..they are not "hot" loads...they are full power 10mm loads and as such a pistol designed for the cartridge should be able to use a steady diet of it...I'm using only DT and BB for my S&W 1006..if I want less power I use my .40.....

As a matter of fact I shoot only full power 44 Mag loads in my 8 3/8 barrel S&W 29-2 (Double Tap, Garrett non +P, etc..)

I do not shoot hot loads (exceeding SAAMI specs)..no bent or broken frames, no loose cylinders.

If you call any maker of 10mm Auto pistols (S&W, Glock, Kimber, etc..) they simply tell you "as long as the ammo is SAAMI compliant you are fine, fire at will"

EAA is the only one that tells you do not shoot Corbon, Buffalo Bore or Double Tap and on top of that they have a blanket nonsensical CYA statement in their user manual: "DO NOT USE +P Ammo or High Velocity High Pressure Ammunition"

What "High velocity High pressure" means?? By definition, the 10mm cartridge is a high velocity (for a handgun) and high pressure round.

Look for yourself in their manual

http://eaacorp.com/Manuals/witness.pdf

I'm not Anti Witness, I'm anti EAA because it is a joke of a company.

 

[MachIVshooter]

I'm not Anti Witness, I'm anti EAA because it is a joke of a company

Well, until another import company picks up Tanfoglios, we're kinda stuck with 'em if we want these fine pistols. I'll deal. Like I said before, I've had pretty positive experience dealing with them, but then, I wasn't rude or standoff-ish when I did. I think lots of folks get it in their head that EAA's CS is crap, and immediately have an attitude with them. Guess what? They're human beings too, and they'll respond in kind. I can tell you that when someone calls the shop with a problem and they are polite and reasonable, I'm happy to help them ASAP. But the guy who gives me the third degree before I even finish greeting will get something between a shine-on and a F*** off.

 

[hardluk1]

saturnov With the 44 you do not have to exceded the saami specs with the early s&w's just shoot heavy loads at near saami levels and that can cause many early guns to back up a cylinder ,in some cases open the cylinder. Now anyone that does shoot atleast BB's +p+ after reading the warning, well better just own a different gun than the 29. You also know what i mean by the newer slide design on the full size witness pistols. No round slide and no real problems with any chambering. And when you talk about changeing recoil springs,, Haveing to much spring can cause just as much damage as being under sprung in the recoil spring. Most just don't know it. Shoot your gun through a crono and when you get a variation( deviation) between shots as small as would be with standard lower power loads or atleast a small FPS number then your spring wieght is about right ,maybe, always maybe. I do the spring like some 1911 shooters do ,use just a peace of spring added to the rear of the stock or upgraded spring to slow the end of the recoil cycle and this will help control the slide and slow the forward movement of the slide to with out maybe over powering the forward movement. And slide damage. It's all a game to some point, some just don't try to find a fix and would reather just complain.